Sox sign Scutaro .

[Dipre]

Pedroia and Jeter actually have had remarkably similar stats from 2007-2009. I think there's a fair comparison. Obviously Jeter has had a more successful career so far' date=' but if Pedroia keeps going at his pace, he's going to be something special. He's more than a "decent" player.[/quote']

 

What else can you expect from most Yankee fans and their warranted sense of superiority about everything?

[riverside sluggers]

 

Like the signing better. Recent posts of it being $9 million a year were bogus. Its 2 years/$10 million, option year is $6 million

[Dipre]

 

Like the signing better. Recent posts of it being $9 million a year were bogus. Its 2 years/$10 million, option year is $6 million

 

1 million signing bonus, 1.5 million buyout.

 

It's a guaranteed 12.5 million for 2 years with a 6 million option for the team and 3 million option for the player.

 

Scutaro was looking for a 3-year, 18 mill deal, and if the team picks up his option, it's essentially a 3-year, 17 mill deal.

[Dojji]

Recent reports had the Sox wanting Lowrie to play in Triple A this season. Wonder who will end up being the backup infielder.

 

Could be Hulett. He's got a half decent mL track record. On the other hand, could definitely be Scutaro himself, dependent on other roster moves or midseason progress from Lowrie.

 

As for the Scutaro signing... blah. Lots and lots of BLAH.

[italstallianion]

1 million signing bonus, 1.5 million buyout.

 

It's a guaranteed 12.5 million for 2 years with a 6 million option for the team and 3 million option for the player.

 

Scutaro was looking for a 3-year, 18 mill deal, and if the team picks up his option, it's essentially a 3-year, 17 mill deal.

 

 

Also $5 million for 2010 and $5 million for 2011, so it's basically what we paid for Penny, Smoltz etc. The option for 2012 also has a $1.5 million buyout.

[Dipre]

Also $5 million for 2010 and $5 million for 2011' date=' so it's basically what we paid for Penny, Smoltz etc. The option for 2012 also has a $1.5 million buyout.[/quote']

 

That's why i said 12.5 guaranteed, since if the Sox don't want him back after '11, they have to pay the 1.5 million buyout.

 

It's like this:

 

'10: 6 million (including signing bonus)

 

'11: 5 million.

 

'12: Either 6 million (Club option), 3 million (Player option), or 1.5 million (Buyout).

 

The guaranteed value (buyout) is 12.5 million, the player options value is 14 million, and the club option value is 17 million.

[Dipre]

Could be Hulett. He's got a half decent mL track record. On the other hand, could definitely be Scutaro himself, dependent on other roster moves or midseason progress from Lowrie.

 

As for the Scutaro signing... blah. Lots and lots of BLAH.

 

Really with Hulett?

 

Really?

[Red Foreman]

You really think Pedroia could have challenged him for SS? Gold Glove maybe' date=' if he could reach first base from the hole. Silver Slugger? Merry Christmas. He can't out Jeter OR Cano.[/quote']

 

It was just a joke but FWIW Pedroia crushed them both in '08, maybe "can't" is a bit strong...

[Dojji]

Really with Hulett?

 

Really?

 

I don't see any other really decent utility men on the roster right now, other than possibly Lowrie, who is apparently starting the year in the minors. And he's competing with the Nick Green set for the honor anyway, it's not exactly like we'd be expecting a ton out of him.

[Dipre]

I don't see any other really decent utility men on the roster right now' date=' other than possibly Lowrie, who is apparently starting the year in the minors. And he's competing with the Nick Green set for the honor anyway, it's not exactly like we'd be expecting a ton out of him.[/quote']

 

Free agency.

 

Please understand that Hulett is nothing more than emergency insurance. Emphasis on "Emergency".

[Rdsxmbnt]

This is our BACKUP middle infield guy. Hulett has been really solid in his minor league career posting .898 and .858 OPS in over 400 AB in AAA for the past two years. He's never been given a chance (you can't draw ANY conclusions from his MLB sample thus far).

[Dojji]

Yeah, pretty much. And free agency is a crapshoot at the best of times and with the cast of characters available on the market now, well, I don't really think Hulett loses much in comparison to them. Even if he DOESN'T hit he doesn't lose much.

[Dipre]

This is our BACKUP middle infield guy. Hulett has been really solid in his minor league career posting .898 and .858 OPS in over 400 AB in AAA for the past two years. He's never been given a chance (you can't draw ANY conclusions from his MLB sample thus far).

 

Sure, it'd be nice to give him a chance if we were the Royals or something.......oh wait.........

[Dojji]

He projects to at least a .730, .740 OPS over a full season in the bigs, Dipre. he's done everything a guy can do in the minors to prove he's worth a shot. What exactly is your problem here?

[BSN07]

He projects to at least a .730' date=' .740 OPS over a full season in the bigs, Dipre. he's done everything a guy can do in the minors to prove he's worth a shot. [b'] What exactly is your problem here?[/b]

 

His first name is "Tug"... I mean c'mon

[Dipre]

He projects to at least a .730' date=' .740 OPS over a full season in the bigs, Dipre. he's done everything a guy can do in the minors to prove he's worth a shot. What exactly is your problem here?[/quote']

 

Can you show me verifiable data of this projection?

 

Are you familiar with the term "AAAA"?

[a700hitter]

Free agency.

 

Please understand that Hulett is nothing more than emergency insurance. Emphasis on "Emergency".

Exactlty, the Utility IF guy if going to be Lowrie if he stays healthy. Hulett has zero chance of making the opening day roster unless there is an injury to Lowrie, Scutaro or Pedroia. Hulett will be the utility guy in Pawtucket.

[Dojji]

Can you show me verifiable data of this projection?

 

I think it was his projection last year. I'll have a dig.

 

Are you familiar with the term "AAAA"?

 

I think that term applies to people who have gotten more than 70 or so PA's in the bigs.

[Dipre]

Exactlty' date=' the Utility IF guy if going to be Lowrie if he stays healthy. Hulett has zero chance of making the opening day roster unless there is an injury to Lowrie, Scutaro or Pedroia. Hulett will be the utility guy in Pawtucket.[/quote']

 

Are you crazy!?

 

He projects to a .740 OPS over a full season!!!

[a700hitter]

Sure' date=' it'd be nice to give him a chance if we were the Royals or something.......oh wait.........[/quote'] Some people view the Royals as a model organization.

[Dipre]

I think that term applies to people who have gotten more than 70 or so PA's in the bigs.

 

75 is more than 70.

 

Term perfectly applied.

[Dipre]

Some people view the Royals as a model organization.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

Well f***ing played! :lol::lol:

[Dojji]

Yeah, I was off a bit on that projection, but ZIPS did have him at .248/.322/.366, which is .688. Since projections of players with only minor league experience tend to err on the conservative side, that's not terrible.

[Dojji]

75 is more than 70.

 

Term perfectly applied.

 

Are you a kindergartner or something?

[Dipre]

Are you a kindergartner or something?

 

Well i was making a simple joke, but if we're going to talk about being stupid or retarded, i'll choose the guy who bashes Adrian Beltre and has a hard-on for Tug Hulett and Nick Green any day of the week.

[Dojji]

Well i was making a simple joke' date=' but if we're going to talk about being stupid or retarded, i'll choose the guy who bashes Adrian Beltre and has a hard-on for Tug Hulett and Nick Green any day of the week. [/quote']

 

Yeah, because overrated, overpriced guys like Beltre are exactly the players we should be investing in right now

 

When you're ready to approach this discussion like a mature adult I guess we can continue this discussion then. In the meantime I'm off to go do something a bit more grownup than indulging in conversation with you -- maybe watch Spongebob..

[redsoxrules]

Could be Hulett. He's got a half decent mL track record. On the other hand' date=' [b']could definitely be Scutaro himself, dependent on other roster moves or midseason progress from Lowrie[/b].

 

As for the Scutaro signing... blah. Lots and lots of BLAH.

 

Seriously , drop the hard on for Lowrie

scutaro will be the full SS this season and Theo got him for a reason , cause Lowrie isn't the man for the job PERIOD

 

you have a problem if you think Lowrie should the opening day starter at SS

[Dipre]

Yeah, because overrated, overpriced guys like Beltre are exactly the players we should be investing in right now

 

When you're ready to approach this discussion like a mature adult I guess we can continue this discussion then. In the meantime I'm off to go do something a bit more grownup than indulging in conversation with you -- maybe watch Spongebob..

 

Well seems i struck a nerve.

 

I find it humorous that a "Grown, mature man" such as yourself thinks of an activity and the first one that comes to mind is watching spongebob. What are you, in kindergarten?

 

Lol Beltre is overpriced and overrated, but at least he doesn't absolutely suck like every guy you hype.

[Dipre]

Seriously , drop the hard on for Lowrie

scutaro will be the full SS this season and Theo got him for a reason , cause Lowrie isn't the man for the job PERIOD

 

you have a problem if you think Lowrie should the opening day starter at SS

 

Come on man, can't you notice the trend?

 

He wants to hype every player that either sucks or is not suited for the job at hand, and when called out on it, calls people "Kindergartners".

 

Watch out, you could be next when he comes back from watching Spongebob!

[redsoxrules]

If Dojji was managing the sox he would promote the entire pawtucket team and have them play everyday and use the current team as bench players