2009-2010 Offseason Thread

[yeszir]

How did people get news before Twitter!?

[BSN07]

How did people get news before Twitter!?

 

I was thinking the same thing! LOL

 

I don't use it, but was it being used a lot last off season? Or is this the big boom for it so far in baseball?

[Cocos Disciples]

How did people get news before Twitter!?

 

Word of mouth, newspapers, radio, television, other websites.

 

Or whatever.

[riverside sluggers]

http://twitter.com/mlbCoz/status/6574642642

 

White Sox have reached 1 year deal with JJ Putz. Again, courtesy of Twitter

[Keeper]

That means Bobby Jenks is as good as gone.

[26 to 6]

That means Bobby Jenks is as good as gone.

Not necessarily. I know they've involved him in trade discussions, but I doubt they hand over the closer's role to Putz after not pitching most of last season. I think they're better suited having Putz set up for Jenks.

[Cocos Disciples]

Yeah, I wouldn't go into the year with Putz closing, especially not after his last two years. And Ken Williams says the same apparently.

[Keeper]

I'm almost positive Kenny Williams wants to get rid of Jenks. If Putz doesn't close next year, he'll be the setup man for Matt Thornton.

[TheMino007]

Phillies could use Jenks

[26 to 6]

This is non-news but I'm bored and there isn't much happening.

 

Josh Towers signed a minor league deal with the Dodgers. He spent 2009 with the Yanks, mostly in AAA but had a brief stint in September.

[riverside sluggers]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2009/12/13/tough_players_leave_yankees_with_a_tough_call/?page=4

 

Haha when talking to the Astros, Fernando Rodney was asking for 3 years/$30 million

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4738924

John Buck signs a 1 year $2 million deal with the Blue Jays

[BSN07]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2009/12/13/tough_players_leave_yankees_with_a_tough_call/?page=4

 

Haha when talking to the Astros, Fernando Rodney was asking for 3 years/$30 million

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4738924

John Buck signs a 1 year $2 million deal with the Blue Jays

 

He's in for a very rude awakening.

[Gom]

He's in for a very rude awakening.

 

How about Damon, asking for 3 years, 36 million?

 

There are going to be a LOT of rude awakenings.

[riverside sluggers]

As well as Scott Boras talking about Tex money for Halladay, and rumors about Lackey wanting $100 million

[Gom]

Lackey is taking a physical with the Red Sox.

[bsox0407]

Lackey is taking a physical with the Red Sox.

 

Where is that from? not being an ******* just asking.

[Gom]

Where is that from? not being an ******* just asking.

 

[bsox0407]

 

oh okay thank you. Now i know.

[riverside sluggers]

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1467

 

Red Sox offer $15.5 million to Aroldis Chapman

[Gom]

Far cry from the 40 million we heard tossed around.

[bsox0407]

Far cry from the 40 million we heard tossed around.

 

it helps that he is close friends with Iglesias. It may be a hey i wanna play with my best friend

[CoachC.]

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1467

 

Red Sox offer $15.5 million to Aroldis Chapman

 

Interesting that they offered a contract before seeing him throw on Tuesday.

[CoachC.]

it helps that he is close friends with Iglesias. It may be a hey i wanna play with my best friend

 

No one will offer 40 million. He will get similar to what Strasburg got from the Nats (4 yrs/15.1 million). The difference of 40 million and 15 million is too large to just wanting to "play with a friend."

[Meh]

Far cry from the 40 million we heard tossed around.

 

Wait for Lackey for the Sox and Halladay to the Phillies. Mets will be forced to come in with a $60 million offer, its omar's style.

[26 to 6]

Wait for Lackey for the Sox and Halladay to the Phillies. Mets will be forced to come in with a $60 million offer' date=' its omar's style.[/quote']

I can definitely see the Mets getting in on Chapman. Obviously he won't offer that much, but he'll definitely be in on it, especially since it appears Halladay is headed to the Phils.

[TheMino007]

Matsui could be going to the Angels for a year at 6.5 million to be their DH.

[Gom]

Matsui is gone.

 

I must say, Cashman watching while the competition is getting better...I'm not too happy.

[jacksonianmarch]

This has been the plan all along, IMO. They wanted no part of Matsui for 2010. They need the DH spot quasi open so that they can get guys a rest. With Damon, you can at least put him in the OF here and there. WIth Matsui, you really cannot.

[Gom]

This has been the plan all along' date=' IMO. They wanted no part of Matsui for 2010. They need the DH spot quasi open so that they can get guys a rest. With Damon, you can at least put him in the OF here and there. WIth Matsui, you really cannot.[/quote']

 

I liked Matsui more than Damon because he was more consistent, and could hit lefties more. Plus, the money and the length of the deal would be about half for Damon. Considering how well Damon plays the outfield, I think Matsui is the better value, or at least was. Is Damon's pathetic ability to play the OF worth an extra year and 12 extra million? With the Sox getting Lackey, they still have all the tools to make a MAJOR deal. AG or Hanley may be on the radar. Any way you look at it, we've taken a step back. We've gotten older as a team, and replaced Matsui's and Damon's production with Granderson.

 

So far, here are the additions:

 

Granderson

Hoffman

 

Here are the losses:

 

Matsui

Damon

Wang

Coke

A. Jackson

I. Kennedy

 

That's a trade I would NOT make.

 

I know the Yankees aren't done...but as of now, we're not looking too good compared to the Sox. They've added Hermidia, Cameron, Scutaro and Lackey for Bay and Brian Anderson. They're about to pull the trigger on Beltre for Lowell. The Sox have gained about 6-8 games, I'd say, and the Yankees have lost about 5 so far. I think we're pretty much dead even, and the Sox may be even better.

[riverside sluggers]

Id say at this point the Sox have the advantage of starting rotation, 6 starters are currently in the fold. Yankees really are just certain about 3 of the spots. The bullpen I would say Red Sox, but we'll see if Paps can bounce back from his heart attack saves. By far the Yankees have a better lineup. Maybe the Sox could tip the scales with a trade for a big bat