Red Sox will never be the same

[Dipre]

Well it better be about Holliday because otherwise it's an exercise in utter pointlessness.

 

You can't buy what other teams aren't selling.

Unless there's something to suggest not just that we're interested in a player but that his team is actively interested in dealing him, there just is not going to be anything happening.

 

Oh?

 

I didn't know you were the GM of a baseball team.

 

Because as far as i'm concerned, basically every player on every team is available for the right place. Specially if the team in question has zero chance of contending and a barren farm system.

 

Then again, we're going by Doiji logic here right?

[Dojji]

Because as far as i'm concerned, basically every player on every team is available for the right place. Specially if the team in question has zero chance of contending and a barren farm system.

 

That's OK. You have the right to feel that way. It doesn't offend reality in the slightest. Or, really, you know, affect it.

[Dipre]

That's OK. You have the right to feel that way. It doesn't offend my reality in the slightest. Or' date=' really, you know, affect it.[/quote']

[Dojji]

Cute.

 

SD has reasons to trade Gonzalez. They also have plenty of reasons to wait. It is by NO means a slam dunk that we're going to get a price for him that Theo is willing to pay.

[BoSox21]

Cute.

 

SD has reasons to trade Gonzalez. They also have plenty of reasons to wait. It is by NO means a slam dunk that we're going to get a price for him that Theo is willing to pay.

 

It was widely and credibly reported at the deadline that they were listening to offers for Gonzo. Whether Kevin Towers' successor will have the same line of thinking remains to be seen.

[Dojji]

It was widely and credibly reported at the deadline that they were listening to offers for Gonzo. Whether Kevin Towers' successor will have the same line of thinking remains to be seen.

 

And that is the wildcard right now. Since we don't know WHY Towers was fired it makes the situation almost impossible to read from a distance. For all we know he was fired BECAUSE he was listening to offers on Gonzalez.

[Dipre]

And that is the wildcard right now. Since we don't know WHY Towers was fired it makes the situation almost impossible to read from a distance. For all we know he was fired BECAUSE he was listening to offers on Gonzalez.

 

This is the stupidest statement i have heard during my time on TalkSox, and that's saying a lot.

 

Well done.

[Dojji]

This is the stupidest statement i have heard during my time on TalkSox, and that's saying a lot.

 

Well done.

 

I did say "for all we know." You know, the precursor to extreme, improbable statements used to make a point about how little we know.

[Paradisecity]

You two just need to f*** and get it over with.

[Dojji]

Sorry guys, for some reason Dipre brings out the worst in me.

[Dipre]

Sorry guys' date=' for some reason Dipre brings out the worst in me.[/quote']

 

I don't bring the worst in you.

 

The lack of a floodgate between your brain and your keyboard brings out the worst in you.

 

Stick to facts.

[Dipre]

You two just need to f*** and get it over with.

 

Oh the homosexuality joke.

 

Original.

[Dojji]

Yeah, this is kinda what I'm talking about.

[Dipre]

Yeah' date=' this is kinda what I'm talking about.[/quote']

 

The truth brongs out the worst in you?

 

Well i'll be damned.......

[Paradisecity]

Oh the homosexuality joke.

 

Original.

 

I wasn't going for original, I was going for on-point.

 

The two of you seek each other out for arguments. It is just like the guy and girl in 3rd grade who keep saying nasty things about the other one because deep down they like them.

 

If you are telling me this is inaccurate then the only conclusion I'm left with is that you are both constantly being douchebags to each other just for the sake of being douchebags. So I am going to stick with the f***ing each other theory out of the kindness of my heart. All I do is give.

[Dipre]

I wasn't going for original, I was going for on-point.

 

The two of you seek each other out for arguments. It is just like the guy and girl in 3rd grade who keep saying nasty things about the other one because deep down they like them.

 

If you are telling me this is inaccurate then the only conclusion I'm left with is that you are both constantly being douchebags to each other just for the sake of being douchebags. So I am going to stick with the f***ing each other theory out of the kindness of my heart. All I do is give.

 

There're some homoerotic fantasies deep down, eh?

[Paradisecity]

I just think if you two keep it up, you could be the Talksox forum's answer to the unstoppable power couple of Jacksonianmarch and Gom.

[Dipre]

I just think if you two keep it up' date=' you could be the Talksox forum's answer to the unstoppable power couple of Jacksonianmarch and Gom.[/quote']

 

Jesus Christ, no need to get personal, man!

[BoSox21]

This is the stupidest statement i have heard during my time on TalkSox' date=' and that's saying a lot.[/quote']

 

This only makes sense of ownership made it clear to Towers that they didn't want Gonzo to be traded and Towers listened to offers anyway. Usually, ownership has to give their blessing for a franchise player to be dealt. But I would've expected a Padres spokesperson to come out after and re-affirm to the fanbase that Gonzo wasn't going anywhere anytime soon.

[Dipre]

This only makes sense of ownership made it clear to Towers that they didn't want Gonzo to be traded and Towers listened to offers anyway. Usually' date=' ownership has to give their blessing for a franchise player to be dealt. But I would've expected a Padres spokesperson to come out after and re-affirm to the fanbase that Gonzo wasn't going anywhere anytime soon.[/quote']

 

Which they haven't done.

 

There's enough evidence to believe that they were listening to offers on Gonzo with the ownership's consent.

[rhet]

Taking a step back, it's hard for me to understand what would drive a team to want to trade a top player with multiple arb years remaining and no apparent high level replacement on the team.

 

Felix? I think Seattle would be insane to shop him.

[redsoxrules]

Taking a step back, it's hard for me to understand what would drive a team to want to trade a top player with multiple arb years remaining and no apparent high level replacement on the team.

 

Felix? I think Seattle would be insane to shop him.

 

Yup

 

Halladay IMO is the only one we would have a shot of acquiring

[TheKilo]

You're describing a lot of the best hitters in the league guys. Even among high-profile power hitters' date=' none of the complaints you're mentioning are unique to Bay.[/quote']

 

Guys, stop making me agree with Dojji. It makes me feel disgusting, I feel like I need to take another shower (I' obviously joking)

 

People are letting themselves beswayed by Bay's two bad months. Granted, they were bad - but his good months were really f***ing good. And if you take his offensove season as a whole, a majoriity of teams would kill to have that bat in the ir lineup.

 

Fact is, every hitter goes through slumps. If you can get an extreme offensive upgrade for a reasonable cost, do it. Just don't convince yourself this team is doomed if they don't and ONLY bring Jason Bay back.

[Dipre]

Guys, stop making me agree with Dojji. It makes me feel disgusting, I feel like I need to take another shower (I' obviously joking)

 

People are letting themselves beswayed by Bay's two bad months. Granted, they were bad - but his good months were really f***ing good. And if you take his offensove season as a whole, a majoriity of teams would kill to have that bat in the ir lineup.

 

Fact is, every hitter goes through slumps. If you can get an extreme offensive upgrade for a reasonable cost, do it. Just don't convince yourself this team is doomed if they don't and ONLY bring Jason Bay back.

 

No one here has said this, so i don't know where you get it.

 

Look at it this way:

 

If we re-sign Bay, excellent, but Holliday is the better player, and i don't know about you, but if it's gonna cost me a lot of money, might as well go for the better player, since they'll both hit the FA market anyway.

 

I don't think Felix makes sense, to be honest, what at least i'm trying to imply is that if the FO has the chance to turn this lineup into a juggernaut that can match the Yanks' without having to completely deplete the farm system, they should go for it.

 

I hate sounding like a douche, but we wouldn't even be having this conversation if the FO hadn't let Cashman f*** them up the ass yet again.

[redsoxrules]

Well its pretty certain that the Yanks will go hard for either Bay or Holliday

 

if the Yanks want Holliday then we have no shot at him

[Dojji]

The Yankees can probably stop us from getting one guy in any given offseason.

 

If the Yankees let Damon and Matsui both walk we have no shot at Holliday because that's probably the guy they don't let us beat them to.

 

However, they could make Lackey that guy instead in which case we might have a crack at Holliday.

[Lester82]

The article is great' date=' but that duo, probably the most fearsome duo in decades, was fueled by PEDs. At least Manny was a great hitter before roids. Ortiz was below average player before and after the juice. During the juice, he was amazing.[/quote']

 

 

Thank goodness some key Yankee players' best seasons weren't fueled by anything like HGH, 'Roids

 

ahahaha

 

whew, boy!

 

[a700hitter]

The Yankees can probably stop us from getting one guy in any given offseason.

 

If the Yankees let Damon and Matsui both walk we have no shot at Holliday because that's probably the guy they don't let us beat them to.

 

However, they could make Lackey that guy instead in which case we might have a crack at Holliday.

If the Yankees do not win the Championship, I expect that they will continue to break the bank for FAs-- maybe they sign Lackey and Bay. I also wouldn't be surprised if they took a run at King Felix if they think he is available.