The boy who cried injury

[PWNdroia]

aka Josh Beckett

 

I don't know what to expect. I depend on season stats to rate players and Josh Beckett was not so great this year (he was ok). Last year he was horrible in the playoffs and he had a higher ERA than the two years he was great.

 

We always get this assumption that he's injured. We can never tell because he doesn't say anything. I can see a repeat of 2008 happening, I hope it doesn't, but whether he is injured or not is uncertain. If he's ok enough to pitch, then the blame goes to Beclkett if he pitches bad, at least IMO.

 

He is no more a "great postseason" pitcher than he is "regular season" pitcher. Just like A-Rod and Sabathia being "worse" in the postseason. You can't just make that assumption (just like the Angels always losing). It's a new year and anything can happen. We saw last a year that "the boy who cried injury" was no good in the postseason and he was ok enough to pitch through it.

[BSN07]

lolwut?

 

 

Beckett was the best pitcher in baseball for a span this season. Stop worrying.

[PWNdroia]

lolwut?

 

 

Beckett was the best pitcher in baseball for a span this season. Stop worrying.

 

Since when did a 4.03 ERA (or whatever it is) make him "the best pitcher in baseball"?

 

By this logic, Wakefield could have been the best pitcher after one week if he pitched a shut out.

[Mr Crunchy]

Beckett has the rep as a money guy, he has 2 rings but his actualy overall #s arent all that inspiring.

We shall see what he has tonight, its put up time and this is when he usually shines with the exception of last years pennant series against Tampa. I like Becks tonight, i think he sticks it up their ass.

[Dipre]

Since when did a 4.03 ERA (or whatever it is) make him "the best pitcher in baseball"?

 

By this logic, Wakefield could have been the best pitcher after one week if he pitched a shut out.

 

Are you really this stupid?

 

Beckett was the most dominant pitcher in baseball for more than 2 months, he tired a bit towards the end (Most innings pitched since 2006) but his overall numbers still place him in the upper echelon of pitchers. Specially in the Al East.

 

Stop trolling,

 

Beckett has the rep as a money guy, he has 2 rings but his actualy overall #s arent all that inspiring.

We shall see what he has tonight, its put up time and this is when he usually shines with the exception of last years pennant series against Tampa. I like Becks tonight, i think he sticks it up their ass.

 

Crunchy, remember he had an oblique injury last year.

[Jacobysgirl729]

lolwut?

 

 

Beckett was the best pitcher in baseball for a span this season. Stop worrying.

 

Well...I for one...am NOT worried!!

[TheKilo]

Just stop posting, please. (to the OP)

[Cocos Disciples]

You really think he's faking an injury?

[Dipre]

You really think he's faking an injury?

 

He has to be a troll.

 

No one can be this stupid.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

I thought this topic was going to be about J.D Drew:lol:

 

 

Didn't Josh Beckett pitch part of the 2007 playoffs with an injury or something, and did fine?

[Dipre]

I thought this topic was going to be about J.D Drew:lol:

 

 

Didn't Josh Beckett pitch part of the 2007 playoffs with an injury or something, and did fine?

 

lolwut?

 

2008?

 

Last year?

 

This is not a condescending post, and i shall add a smiley to prove it.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

So it was last year he pitched with an injury?

[Dipre]

So it was last year he pitched with an injury?

 

Torn oblique against the Rays.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Oh alright. Thanks.

[Emmz]

aka Josh Beckett

 

I don't know what to expect. I depend on season stats to rate players and Josh Beckett was not so great this year (he was ok). Last year he was horrible in the playoffs and he had a higher ERA than the two years he was great.

 

We always get this assumption that he's injured. We can never tell because he doesn't say anything. I can see a repeat of 2008 happening, I hope it doesn't, but whether he is injured or not is uncertain. If he's ok enough to pitch, then the blame goes to Beclkett if he pitches bad, at least IMO.

 

He is no more a "great postseason" pitcher than he is "regular season" pitcher. Just like A-Rod and Sabathia being "worse" in the postseason. You can't just make that assumption (just like the Angels always losing). It's a new year and anything can happen. We saw last a year that "the boy who cried injury" was no good in the postseason and he was ok enough to pitch through it.

 

His career post season ERA: Look at it.

 

He was injured last postseason.

[BoSox21]

hasnt this clown already started a thread on the EXACT same subject?

[yeszir]

Thread starter is a fool.

[Dipre]

Thread starter is a fool.

 

If i may:

 

Since it is physically impossible for someone to be this stupid, then the logical alternative would be to define this as a blatant attempt at trolling, therefore, per the new rules, this gentlemen should be on the receiving end of your administrative fury.

 

That is all.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Since it is physically impossible for someone to be this stupid' date='[/quote']

 

Hasn't been to Farmington, NH.

[Dipre]

Hasn't been to Farmington' date=' NH.[/quote']

 

You're damaging my argument.

 

Stop it.

[jacksonianmarch]

There are two things to consider with Beckett.

 

The absolute #1 is his health. If he has been hurting this past month or so, then it throws all past performance out the window because he isnt 100%.

 

The second is how he limped into the post-season. If it wasnt due to injury, then why was Beckett so damn miserable since August 18th? Look at the numbers. 55.1IP 66H 37ER 13BB 54K. The power was there, the lack of walks was there, but the ERA of 6.02, the WHIP of 1.43, and the H/9 of 10.7 are all alarming.

 

Now, a lot of people harp on him "stepping it up" in the playoffs. We'll see. He obviously has the potential to be an ace and has shown lock down stuff in 2 prior post seasons. But we will have to see which Beckett comes out tonight. I would say that blanket faith in him without looking at his most recent record coming into the playoffs and the possibility of an injury is foolish. Then again, he could just stick it up their asses tonight and toss a 2 hit shutout.

 

All that can be said right now is that a potentially hobbled and recently slumping Josh Beckett is getting the ball in the most important game for the red sox in 2009 to date. We'll see how he responds

[Spudboy]

Hasn't been to Farmington' date=' NH.[/quote']

 

[Emmz]

hasnt this clown already started a thread on the EXACT same subject?

 

He also tried to argue that Gonzo is an offensive threat this season, and a bunch of other mindless crap. No one can be this dumb.

[Dipre]

There are two things to consider with Beckett.

 

The absolute #1 is his health. If he has been hurting this past month or so, then it throws all past performance out the window because he isnt 100%.

 

The second is how he limped into the post-season. If it wasnt due to injury, then why was Beckett so damn miserable since August 18th? Look at the numbers. 55.1IP 66H 37ER 13BB 54K. The power was there, the lack of walks was there, but the ERA of 6.02, the WHIP of 1.43, and the H/9 of 10.7 are all alarming.

 

Now, a lot of people harp on him "stepping it up" in the playoffs. We'll see. He obviously has the potential to be an ace and has shown lock down stuff in 2 prior post seasons. But we will have to see which Beckett comes out tonight. I would say that blanket faith in him without looking at his most recent record coming into the playoffs and the possibility of an injury is foolish. Then again, he could just stick it up their asses tonight and toss a 2 hit shutout.

 

All that can be said right now is that a potentially hobbled and recently slumping Josh Beckett is getting the ball in the most important game for the red sox in 2009 to date. We'll see how he responds

 

Quick, the table!

[PWNdroia]

Are you really this stupid?

 

Beckett was the most dominant pitcher in baseball for more than 2 months, he tired a bit towards the end (Most innings pitched since 2006) but his overall numbers still place him in the upper echelon of pitchers. Specially in the Al East.

 

Stop trolling,

 

 

 

Crunchy, remember he had an oblique injury last year.

 

SMALL SAMPLE SIZE!

[PWNdroia]

He also tried to argue that Gonzo is an offensive threat this season' date=' and a bunch of other mindless crap. No one can be this dumb.[/quote']

 

I never said Gonzo was an "offensive threat". I said he was pretty good as our SS. So unless you get facts straight, I would not put words into people's mouths.

 

Beckett's back problems aren't an injury? He stated he had back problems right near the end of the season.

[Dipre]

SMALL SAMPLE SIZE!

 

Are you really this stupid, dude?

[example1]

There are two things to consider with Beckett.

 

The absolute #1 is his health. If he has been hurting this past month or so, then it throws all past performance out the window because he isnt 100%.

 

The second is how he limped into the post-season. If it wasnt due to injury, then why was Beckett so damn miserable since August 18th? Look at the numbers. 55.1IP 66H 37ER 13BB 54K. The power was there, the lack of walks was there, but the ERA of 6.02, the WHIP of 1.43, and the H/9 of 10.7 are all alarming.

 

Now, a lot of people harp on him "stepping it up" in the playoffs. We'll see. He obviously has the potential to be an ace and has shown lock down stuff in 2 prior post seasons. But we will have to see which Beckett comes out tonight. I would say that blanket faith in him without looking at his most recent record coming into the playoffs and the possibility of an injury is foolish. Then again, he could just stick it up their asses tonight and toss a 2 hit shutout.

 

All that can be said right now is that a potentially hobbled and recently slumping Josh Beckett is getting the ball in the most important game for the red sox in 2009 to date. We'll see how he responds

 

The only thing that matters in the playoffs is winning. If Beckett gives up 4 runs but the Sox win then that's fine with me. Curt Schilling was a tremendous playoff pitcher throughout his career, but in 2004 the only thing that mattered when his Sox were bloody was that he was able to pitch well enough to get the win. He was by no means overpowering, but he will be remembered for his guts and ability to get the win. That stuff is overrated in the regular season, but appropriately valued in the postseason. It is all that matters.

 

The first phase of Beckett's career involved some amazing post season performances. The later half of his career will be defined by his ability to pitch well enough to give his team a chance to win. NOBODY CAN EXPECT A 2-HIT PERFORMANCE FROM HIM IN THE PLAYOFFS. With this Red Sox team he should be able to pitch to his ERA and the Sox should be in a position to get the W. That's all I can ask of him.

[PWNdroia]

So far I'm wrong. It looks like Beckett's back spasms are not hurting him (as of now). I thought they could have because they happened so recently, but he looks good on the mound. Now all we can ask for is offense and that he continues to do well.

[soxfan17881]

His career post season ERA: Look at it.

 

He was injured last postseason.

 

This is not meant for Beckett, just in general...

 

I always get suspicious when a guy who's having a mediocre or lousy or just plain off his average season is expected to shine on the postseason simply because he;s done so in previous post seasons. Doesn't it make more sense that if a guy spends August and September performing at a certain level that he would most likely be expected to continue on at that pace and not automatically surge because he's had good/great Octobers in years past?