Yankees claiming waiver on Carter.

[RWTP24]

The rivalry between the New York Yankees and the Boston Red Sox burns strongly even when it comes to waiver claims.

 

When the New York Mets and Red Sox worked out a trade for left-handed reliever Billy Wagner earlier this week, Chris Carter, an outfielder-first baseman currently playing for Triple-A Pawtucket, became part of the deal as a player to be named headed to Boston, sources said. In preparation for the deal, the Red Sox placed Carter on waivers, with the intention of moving him on to the Mets.

 

But the Yankees, sources said, placed a claim on Carter -- perhaps to create some 40-man roster discomfort for the Red Sox. In order to complete the Wagner trade, the Red Sox are now pulling Carter back from waivers, and for the rest of the year they must carry him on their 40-man roster.

 

By Buster Olney

ESPN The Magazine

 

Ok, so you'll probably never seen me copy and paste on here again, but when i was reading this i was like, wow, that's pretty f***ed up. With that being said, we know this is going to hurt the Sox with the 40 man roster situation and you know the Yankees knew that.

 

Was that bush league or smart on the Yankees or did the Sox mess up by putting him on waivers to soon???

 

SORRY, that should be YANKEES CLAIMED WAIVER ON CARTER.

[Dojji]

I don't think that hurts us. We do have some space on the 40-man. it just means that the Mets don't get their PTBNL until the offseason and we don't get to add one additional 40-man roster player for September callups. Offhand I can't think of too many players not on the 40-man roster that I'd call up for September anyway..

[BoSox21]

I think it's completely irrelevant.

[a700hitter]

And this is why I hate the Yankees. What petty ********.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

How's it petty? They're doing their part to hinder a division rival.

[ORS]

It's petty because they aren't going to stop it from happening and they aren't going to keep someone the Sox would use off the 40-man roster. Remember, the Sox are in a tight WC race right now. There are some pretty mariginal players on the 40-man right now, and there's nobody in the system not on the 40-man who would get a chance to play for them in September. It's petty because it has no tangible effect on their roster, and it appears they are doing it just for the sake of getting attention.

[jacksonianmarch]

it does have a tangible effect on the sox, albeit a minute one. It forces the sox to keep him on their 40 man roster until November.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

it does have a tangible effect on the sox' date=' albeit a minute one. It forces the sox to keep him on their 40 man roster until November.[/quote']

Exactly. It's insignificant, but that doesn't make it petty.

[ORS]

it does have a tangible effect on the sox' date=' albeit a minute one. It forces the sox to keep him on their 40 man roster until November.[/quote']

Name one player not on the 40-man that would get placed on it and have a chance to play for the Sox in September if Carter was removed from the roster.

[Mr Crunchy]

Chris Carter has to be the biggest flop on our payroll, a cheap flop but none the less disappointing.

We got him for a ham sandwhich and he was supposed to have a decent bat with issues in the field.

I have to think that he wouldve seen Boston this summer with all our weaknesses on the left side of the plate, he didnt get a sniff of playing time and instead we went with other options.

Ny wants him for whatever reason and thats fine by me, he will be a career minor leaguer and wont be hurting us down the road.

[Dojji]

Name one player not on the 40-man that would get placed on it and have a chance to play for the Sox in September if Carter was removed from the roster.

 

Dustin Richardson.

[Dipre]

Dustin Richardson.

 

*sigh*

[Dojji]

I had to, Dipre. He was practically screaming for a Dojji type. I had to respond.

[Dipre]

I had to' date=' Dipre. He was practically screaming for a Dojji type. I had to respond.[/quote']

 

Yeah, but Richardson?

 

Come on, you can do better than that.

[jacksonianmarch]

Name one player not on the 40-man that would get placed on it and have a chance to play for the Sox in September if Carter was removed from the roster.

 

Like I said, a minute chance.

[a700hitter]

How's it petty? They're doing their part to hinder a division rival.

Because it accomplishes nothing. It will do nothing to hurt the Red Sox chances. They'll pull him back and ship him to the Mets at a later date. What it does and why it is petty is that it will screw over Carter by forcing him to stay in an organization that has no plans for him, and time is running out on him. He's getting a little long in the tooth to be considered a prospect. If the Yanks had let the deal go through, he would have gone to his new team which is so depleted that it would have been likely that he would have seen some September major league playing time. They screwed him over big time.

[Dipre]

Because it accomplishes nothing. It will do nothing to hurt the Red Sox chances. They'll pull him back and ship him to the Mets at a later date. What it does and why it is petty is that it will screw over Carter by forcing him to stay in an organization that has no plans for him' date=' and time is running out on him. He's getting a little long in the tooth to be considered a prospect. If the Yanks had let the deal go through, he would have gone to his new team which is so depleted that it would have been likely that he would have seen some September major league playing time. They screwed him over big time.[/quote']

 

Such a classy organization.

[a700hitter]

Chris Carter has to be the biggest flop on our payroll, a cheap flop but none the less disappointing.

We got him for a ham sandwhich and he was supposed to have a decent bat with issues in the field.

I have to think that he wouldve seen Boston this summer with all our weaknesses on the left side of the plate, he didnt get a sniff of playing time and instead we went with other options.

Ny wants him for whatever reason and thats fine by me, he will be a career minor leaguer and wont be hurting us down the road.

If we let the Yankees take him, we would have to provide another player to the Mets.

[jacksonianmarch]

Guys, the sox would and should do that same thing. We are talking about a .01% chance that this has any implication on the red sox playoff chances. But what it does is take the place of another player they could have on the Sept roster who potentially catches fire and helps the team (a la KRod in 2002). It is an incredibly small chance. But it is at least a chance that the sox get hurt by this, so why not? Also, you get to hurt your other rival by not letting them get a chance to see what this kid can do in a Mets uniform.

[a700hitter]

Also' date=' you get to hurt your other rival by not letting them get a chance to see what this kid can do in a Mets uniform.[/quote']This is the petty part of it. The Mets are no challenge or competition for they Yankees. They are in different leagues and the Mets are far from competitive. Carter is not a star. He's just a guy who is hoping for a shot before time runs out. Thanks to the weasel Cashman an opportunity was just snatched away from him.

[italstallianion]

I just think that it's a cheap move all around. There's no reason to f*** over Chris Carter or the Mets here. I don't think it hurts the Red Sox at all, but it does hurt the Mets and Chris Carter a bit. While I understand the tactic of screwing over your rival, for some reason this seems really cheap. Even worthy of the "J" word, but I'd rather not get banned by using it. While the Yankees were devilishly clever, I can't help but sit back and say, "What a douche"

[BoSox21]

But what it does is take the place of another player they could have on the Sept roster who potentially catches fire and helps the team (a la KRod in 2002).

 

The Red Sox don't have anyone beyond the 40-man roster who would have a K-Rod 2002-like effect no matter how far deep into hypotheticals you want to go. And I have zero problem with the Yankees doing what they did.

[ORS]

I don't have any problem with them doing it either, but not having a problem with it can coexist with it being petty. I don't think they are dicks for doing (although I'm sure Carter does for the reasons stated upthread), but there's no reason for them to have done it. It will have zero impact on the Sox season.

[RWTP24]

And this is why I hate the Yankees. What petty ********.

 

That is kinda what i was thinking..

[TLev]

Cashman Strikes again!!!!!!

 

http://partmule.com/blog16/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/brian-cashman.jpg

AND YOU WANT TO BE MY LATEX SALESMAN?

[BSN07]

I don't have any problem with them doing it either' date=' but not having a problem with it can coexist with it being petty. I don't think they are dicks for doing (although I'm sure Carter does for the reasons stated upthread), but there's no reason for them to have done it. It will have zero impact on the Sox season.[/quote']

 

This

[BoSox21]

I saw that Rich Harden was claimed off waivers by a mystery team. Wonder if it could've been the Sox...

[RWTP24]

Mmm, i wonder?

[Dojji]

I hope so, he'd be better than Tazawa.

 

Tazawa has a ton of potential and still should be a quality player when he's done developing but we don't need to be leaning on him down the stretch in his first professional season. JMHO.

[RWTP24]

Very true.