8/20 @ Toronto

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Yayyyy for RBIzzzz!!!!!11111

[a700hitter]

I bet if Drew would go 15 for 15 over the weekend with 5HR he would still get s*** on

Probably because he'd pull or strain something on the final Hr and miss the next 4 games forcing Brian Anderson back into the lineup. The problem with Drew isn't how he plays. It's how little he plays.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I bet if Drew would go 15 for 15 over the weekend with 5HR he would still get s*** on

Because he's not gritty enough to take beastly hacks at every pitch he sees, and doesn't have the entire organization's pine-tar quota smeared on his batting helmet.

 

I say we let the haters stew, and just sit back and laugh.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Probably because he'd pukk or strain something on the final Hr and miss the next 4 games forcing Brian Anderson back into the lineup. The problem with Drew isn't how he plays. It's how little he plays.

So you're basically calling him a pussy for getting injured.

[a700hitter]

So you're basically calling him a pussy for getting injured.

I was explaining why people knock on him. I wasn't calling him anything, but he is delicate, maybe even brittle.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I was explaining why people knock on him. I wasn't calling him anything' date=' but he is delicate, maybe even brittle.[/quote']

2007: 140 GP / 162

2008: 109/162

2009: 102/120 (so far)

 

 

When you factor in Tito's regular days off given to his starters, the only year he's had any true injury trouble was 2008.

[a700hitter]

2007: 140 GP / 162

2008: 109/162

2009: 102/120 (so far)

 

 

When you factor in Tito's regular days off given to his starters, the only year he's had any true injury trouble was 2008.

37 year old Carl Yastrzemski 150 Games Played.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

37 year old Carl Yastrzemski 150 Games Played.

And how exactly is this relevant?

[redsoxrules]

not only did he went 4 for 4 but it was VS a lefty , so hopefully tito will stop sitting him when we face lefties from now on

[a700hitter]

And how exactly is this relevant?

I judge gamers against the standard he set. Judged against the standards Yaz set Drew is delicate and brittle. He's a great player when he plays, but he's delcate and brittle. He has durability issues.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I judge gamers against the standard he set. Judged against the standards Yaz set Drew is delicate and brittle. He's a great player when he plays' date=' but he's delcate and brittle. He has durability issues.[/quote']

You can't be serious. Tell me I'm hallucinating and that you didn't really just post this.

[a700hitter]

You can't be serious. Tell me I'm hallucinating and that you didn't really just post this.

I never posted it. J.D. straps it on for 162 each season. The manager has to fight to keep him out of the lineup.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I never posted it. J.D. straps it on for 162 each season. The manager has to fight to keep him out of the lineup.

lol

[a700hitter]

You can't be serious. Tell me I'm hallucinating and that you didn't really just post this.

... Oh and Yaz wasn't a gamer either. It's just a myth that he signed himself out of a hospital when he was in traction for his back to play a series against the Yankees. That never happened either. I was hallucinating.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

GAMERTUFFGRITHUSTLEINTENSEDIRTDOGCLUTCHMANHOOD!!!!!!!!!!!11111111!!1

[Dipre]

JD Drew sucks.

 

He's not an RBI man./sarcasm

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

JD Drew sucks.

 

He's not an RBI man./sarcasm

Or a tr00 gamer. He's not a MAN.

[Dipre]

Or a tr00 gamer. He's not a MAN.

 

No pine tar on his helmet.

 

Clearly not a "True" Red Sox.

[redsoxrules]

JD Drew sucks.

 

He's not an RBI man./sarcasm

 

I know eh? I cant beleive he only hit a solo shot and a 2 run shot , why couldn't he hit 2 grand slams?

[Dipre]

I know eh? I cant beleive he only hit a solo shot and a 2 run shot ' date=' why couldn't he hit 2 grand slams?[/quote']

 

A true man only hits home runs with two or more man on base, and he slides when scoring to get his uniform dirty.

 

JD Drew is clearly not a true man.

[a700hitter]

Some guys are durable. Others are not. It's got nothing to do with macho stupid s***. Some guys like Jeter go to the post everyday. The manager knows that he can count on him day in and day out. The fans who buy tickets know that they will see jeter. The manager never has to beg Jeter to stay in a game because he has no one on the bench to take his place. Why are some guys more durable than others? I don't know. Drew doesn't play any harder than Jeter. He doesn't get hit by more pitches than Jeter, so how do you explain how one guy will play 160 games a year and another guy averages about 120 games a year. I don't know. Do you have an explanation other than one guy is more durable than another? If you do, share.

[Dipre]

Some guys are durable. Others are not. It's got nothing to do with macho stupid s***. Some guys like Jeter go to the post everyday. The manager knows that he can count on him day in and day out. The fans who buy tickets know that they will see jeter. The manager never has to beg Jeter to stay in a game because he has no one on the bench to take his place. Why are some guys more durable than others? I don't know. Drew doesn't play any harder than Jeter. He doesn't get hit by more pitches than Jeter' date=' so how do you explain how one guy will play 160 games a year and another guy averages about 120 games a year. I don't know. Do you have an explanation other than one guy is more durable than another? If you do, share.[/quote']

 

But this is exactly the point.

 

He's not very durable but it's not because he's a pussy, it's because he gets injured.

 

Jesus Christ.

[a700hitter]

But this is exactly the point.

 

He's not very durable but it's not because he's a pussy, it's because he gets injured.

 

Jesus Christ.

I didn't say he was a pussy. I explained that people knock on him because he misses games. Is the word pussy there? No, it is not.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Some guys are durable. Others are not. It's got nothing to do with macho stupid s***. Some guys like Jeter go to the post everyday. The manager knows that he can count on him day in and day out. The fans who buy tickets know that they will see jeter. The manager never has to beg Jeter to stay in a game because he has no one on the bench to take his place.

 

Thinly veiled smearing.

 

Why are some guys more durable than others? I don't know.

 

If you don't know, then why criticize them for it?

 

Drew doesn't play any harder than Jeter.

 

:(

 

He doesn't get hit by more pitches than Jeter, so how do you explain how one guy will play 160 games a year and another guy averages about 120 games a year. I don't know. Do you have an explanation other than one guy is more durable than another? If you do, share.

 

Does it matter? Durability is no one's fault. So far this year, Drew's missed 18 games. He missed 22 in 2007. Taking Tito's days off issued to his starters into account, Drew probably missed about 20 of those games due to miscellaneous aches and pains. 2008 is the only year in the past three where he's had any kind of incessant injury plague. So what's the issue? I guess that makes Ortiz an injury-prone chump, since he suffered a lengthy injury in 2008.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I didn't say he was a pussy. I explained that people knock on him because he misses games. Is the word pussy there? No' date=' it is not.[/quote']

Well, f*** 'people'. Because anyone who shits on him just for missed games is a gigantic tool.

[MANNYHOF24]

Well' date=' f*** 'people'. Because anyone who shits on him just for missed games is a gigantic tool.[/quote']

 

JD shouldn't be s*** on. It should be Theo, who gave 14 million dollars to a player who has had nagging injuries throughout his career. It's not JDs fault. That being sad, I'm still glad he is on the team, I could care less how much they are paying him. It's not like we have a bunch of huge contracts to deal with right now.

[a700hitter]

Thinly veiled smearing.

Not a smear. It happened according to Tito.

 

 

If you don't know, then why criticize them for it?

 

:(

 

 

Does it matter? Durability is no one's fault. So far this year, Drew's missed 18 games. He missed 22 in 2007. Taking Tito's days off issued to his starters into account, Drew probably missed about 20 of those games due to miscellaneous aches and pains. 2008 is the only year in the past three where he's had any kind of incessant injury plague. So what's the issue? I guess that makes Ortiz an injury-prone chump, since he suffered a lengthy injury in 2008.

People want a guy to be durable. Just because it is not his fault doesn't mean that it isn't a point of criticism. Players that suck don't suck intentionally. They are just not that good. Yet we criticize their play. Durability is an issue of interest to teams that's why players get physical examinations before they sign. Teams want guys that they sign to play the whole season. Would you purchase a car if it had a bad durability rating?

 

As for Ortiz, his advancing age and increasing injuries will certainly affect his value on the open market. It is an issue.

[a700hitter]

See you guys tomorrow. I'm not waiting around for more baiting by J_E who is hoping that I will give him an excuse to spew insults.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

People want a guy to be durable. Just because it is not his fault doesn't mean that it isn't a point of criticism. Players that suck don't suck intentionally. They are just not that good. Yet we criticize their play.

 

We? Who is we? I only criticize someone's play if they appear to be dogging it, or in a random, reactionary post/statement in the game thread (or while watching the game) that has little bearing on my actual opinion. I support finding replacements for players who aren't performing well or up to standards, but very rarely do I criticize the player.

 

Slamming players for performance, aside from if you think they're dogging it, is unreasonable and toolish.

 

Durability is an issue of interest to teams that's why players get physical examinations before they sign. Teams want guys that they sign to play the whole season. Would you purchase a car if it had a bad durability rating?

 

Meaningless. Drew is doing nothing here that he wasn't doing before arriving in Boston. His contract makes him the cheap and easy target.

 

As for Ortiz, his advancing age and increasing injuries will certainly affect his value on the open market. It is an issue.

 

But over the past three years, his games played to possible games played is pretty similar to Drew's. So he must an undurable chump, right?

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

See you guys tomorrow. I'm not waiting around for more baiting by J_E who is hoping that I will give him an excuse to spew insults.

Baiting? lol