Pudge heading back to Rangers

[BSN07]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4407445

[BSN07]

With Salty going down, I consider this to be a nice move really. Nice veteran presence that has won a WS. Teagarden looks to be a good catcher. But it doesn't hurt having a veteran helping him along the way IMO.

[a700hitter]

Another team able to make a move that addresses a need. It can happen.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Heeeeeere we go...

[Cocos Disciples]

He kinda sucks. He's a brutal offensive player and isn't nearly the same defensively as he used to be. Meh.

[a700hitter]

Heeeeeere we go...

Only if you go there. So maybe you should have said. "Here I go."

[Spudboy]

He kinda sucks. He's a brutal offensive player and isn't nearly the same defensively as he used to be. Meh.

 

:lol::lol:

[CrespoBlows]

Another team able to make a move that addresses a need. It can happen.

 

If Pudge Rodriguez counts, than Alex Gonzalez, Brian Anderson, and Chris Woodward count as well.

[a700hitter]

If Pudge Rodriguez counts' date=' than Alex Gonzalez, Brian Anderson, and Chris Woodward count as well.[/quote']Pudge being compare to Woodward. Interesting.

[CrespoBlows]

Pudge being compare to Woodward. Interesting.

 

At this point in his career? Absolutely.

[yankees228]

.251/.280/.382

 

Lets try to forget about the old Pudge, because he is long gone.

[a700hitter]

.251/.280/.382

 

Lets try to forget about the old Pudge, because he is long gone.

What are Woodward's #'s?

[CrespoBlows]

What are Woodward's #'s?

 

What does it matter? None of those players help your team.

[CrespoBlows]

Actually, I take it back. Pudge still appears to have something left in his arm. He's gunned down 31% of basestealers this year. That's worth a lot more than Gonzalez's, Woodward's, or Anderson's defense.

[BSN07]

Actually' date=' I take it back. Pudge still appears to have something left in his arm. He's gunned down 31% of basestealers this year. That's worth a lot more than Gonzalez's, Woodward's, or Anderson's defense.[/quote']

 

That, and he will be an experienced veteran on a fairly young team that doesn't have many guys who have been in a playoff race.

[CrespoBlows]

That' date=' and he will be an experienced veteran on a fairly young team that doesn't have many guys who have been in a playoff race.[/quote']

 

Yeah, this kind of stuff doesn't do much to affect the scoreboard.

[yankees228]

Yeah' date=' this kind of stuff doesn't do much to affect the scoreboard.[/quote']

 

The Rays really struggled mightily in the first two rounds with their lack of experience...

[WhiskeyBreath]

Does this guy still love to call fastballs to pad his throwing numbers?

[a700hitter]

The Rays really struggled mightily in the first two rounds with their lack of experience...

I recall an inexperienced Tiger pitching staff throwing away a World Series with ridiculous fielding.

[yankees228]

I recall an inexperienced Tiger pitching staff throwing away a World Series with ridiculous fielding.

 

Oh common, we both know that was more of a fluke than anything else. You're going to tell me that they were significantly more nervous in the World Series than they were in the ALCS and ALDS, when they went 7-1? I'm not going to buy that.

[a700hitter]

Oh common' date=' we both know that was more of a fluke than anything else. You're going to tell me that they were significantly more nervous in the World Series than they were in the ALCS and ALDS, when they went 7-1? I'm not going to buy that.[/quote']No, but they didn't get burned by their inexperience until then.

[yankees228]

No' date=' but they didn't get burned by their inexperience until then.[/quote']

 

How do you know that their inexperience played a role? The Yankees lost the 2001 World Series because Mariano Rivera made a throwing error. I think you would admit that he had enough experience. People make errors, for you to claim that it has to do with inexperience is baseless conjecture.

[a700hitter]

How do you know that their inexperience played a role? The Yankees lost the 2001 World Series because Mariano Rivera made a throwing error. I think you would admit that he had enough experience. People make errors' date=' for you to claim that it has to do with inexperience is baseless conjecture.[/quote']It was probably inexperienc on Mo's part too, because he almost never allows runners in big games. He's never been to good at throwing to bases. Mo's error wasn't a bad decision. He just f***ed up the throw. In the Tiger series those pitchers made some very bad choices. They threw to the wrong base. They threw to bases where they had no chance of getting outs. It was their young pitchers who made those errors. I don't remember Kenny Roger making any of those errors.

[Cocos Disciples]

Todd Jones made one.

[a700hitter]

Todd Jones made one.

I attribute that to senility and obesity.

[Dipre]

I attribute that to senility and obesity.

 

He wasn't either that old or that fat in '06.

[a700hitter]

He wasn't either that old or that fat in '06.

The only game they won in that WS was the one in which Todd Jones made his error. Their young pitchers Verlander (2), Rodney and Zumaya made errors in the other games each leading to unearned runs.

[Cocos Disciples]

By the way apparently Jones was chilling outside of Fenway after the 2003 WC clincher. http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/TJ_Wild_Card_Night.jpg

[yankees228]

It was probably inexperienc on Mo's part too' date=' because he almost never allows runners in big games. He's never been to good at throwing to bases. Mo's error wasn't a bad decision. He just f***ed up the throw. In the Tiger series those pitchers made some very bad choices. They threw to the wrong base. They threw to bases where they had no chance of getting outs. It was their young pitchers who made those errors. I don't remember Kenny Roger making any of those errors.[/quote']

 

A. Rivera is actually excellent when it comes to getting off the mound and throwing the ball to first, second, or third.

 

B. You should go back and take a look at some of those plays in the 2006 World Series. They made the right decision, just poor execution.

[a700hitter]

A. Rivera is actually excellent when it comes to getting off the mound and throwing the ball to first' date=' second, or third.[/quote']He's an excellent fielder when the play is at 1B. He's not so good throwing to 2nd or 3rd.

 

B. You should go back and take a look at some of those plays in the 2006 World Series. They made the right decision' date=' just poor execution.[/quote']Getting the sure out is almost always the right decision. When you go for the lead runner, if you don't get him, it is almost always the wrong decision. If you have no chance to get any runner, the best decision is to eat the ball. There pitchers turned the World Series into a circus with their fielding.