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I have to admit I wouldn't really be particularly surprised if it came out that Big Al wasn't clean. But that's based on pure emotion and a total lack of anything resembling evidence.
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dont care if he shoots up in front of his children and has a scrotum the size of a raisin. What he is doing right now is unhuman even with PED assistance

 

You could have said the same thing about Bonds.

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You could have said the same thing about Bonds.

 

Bonds was an elite talent even before he started on the 'roids.

 

Even though i think Pujols is clean, Gom's claim is valid (which is rare).

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I disliked Bonds as a person' date=' but his baseball achievements were unreal.[/quote']

 

Even before he started 'roiding.

 

Finishing his career clean he would've easily been 500/500.

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Right now I dont think he is. Maybe back in 03 he was.

 

why would you say that? he's gotten better since '03 and is currently having probably his best year. I choose to think I'm currently watching the best player of my lifetime as opposed to another juicer

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why would you say that? he's gotten better since '03 and is currently having probably his best year. I choose to think I'm currently watching the best player of my lifetime as opposed to another juicer

 

I have no idea if he was in 03 I'm just saying its possbile. I dont think he is on them now bc now they test for it. I agree with you, I think we are watching the best baseball player of our life time.

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I think you have to be the most niave person alive to think he's clean. Borderline stupid retard actually.

Do this, go youtube the 1991 world series (it was on mlb network on Saturday). Watch one inning and you'll have your answer.

 

They are all using PEDs - still. And if anyone is truly "shocked" by any future name coming out, well, you're an idiot there too.

 

This is almost like going to an NFL forum and asking seriously "Gee, do you think any NFL players use PED? I don't think so.."

Posted
I think you have to be the most niave person alive to think he's clean. Borderline stupid retard actually.

Do this, go youtube the 1991 world series (it was on mlb network on Saturday). Watch one inning and you'll have your answer.

 

They are all using PEDs - still. And if anyone is truly "shocked" by any future name coming out, well, you're an idiot there too.

 

This is almost like going to an NFL forum and asking seriously "Gee, do you think any NFL players use PED? I don't think so.."

 

This is about the worst way you can go about an argument.

 

Nothing in life is absolute, champ.

 

To make a claim like that you need proof.

 

Got any?

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This is about the worst way you can go about an argument.

 

Nothing in life is absolute, champ.

 

To make a claim like that you need proof.

 

Got any?

 

I don't agree with his line of thinking either, but I don't think that's the road he was trying to go down. People don't need proof to not be shocked about players who may or may not use. I don't tag every single player as dirty, but I'm never, ever shocked when I hear someone named.

 

It's not the individual players who have caused us to think like this. It's the game and it starts at the top with Bud Selig because baseball could have gone about this 119238158240 times better.

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I don't agree with his line of thinking either, but I don't think that's the road he was trying to go down. People don't need proof to not be shocked about players who may or may not use. I don't tag every single player as dirty, but I'm never, ever shocked when I hear someone named.

 

It's not the individual players who have caused us to think like this. It's the game and it starts at the top with Bud Selig because baseball could have gone about this 119238158240 times better.

 

But still, you can't go around calling those who choose to believe in any given ballplayer borderline retards, specially if you don't have some sort of evidence against that player.

 

It's like me calling someone a retard because they believe someone's innocent of a crime when there's no evidence that he committed it, even if the person was around at the time of perpetuation.

Posted
ever since I read the feature article on Pujols in SI, I've chosen to put my hope in him that he is the one great slugger thats clean. If I wind up being proven wrong, so be it
Posted
ever since I read the feature article on Pujols in SI' date=' I've chosen to put my hope in him that he is the one great slugger thats clean. If I wind up being proven wrong, so be it[/quote']

 

Damn straight.

 

Not only that, but he's the one guy who's never had any fingers pointed at him.

 

Not by Canseco, not by Mitchell, and not even a hint of him being in the 104 list.

 

Just like Griffey, i'll believe he's used when i see overwhelming proof, and anything else is just baseless conjecture.

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But still, you can't go around calling those who choose to believe in any given ballplayer borderline retards, specially if you don't have some sort of evidence against that player.

 

It's like me calling someone a retard because they believe someone's innocent of a crime when there's no evidence that he committed it, even if the person was around at the time of perpetuation.

 

Ohhh aight I see what you mean. I agree with you.

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well' date=' I will point out that Canseco's last year was two years before Pujols came in[/quote']

 

And that matters because?

 

The fact is Canseco still had contacts with the people who distributed the PEDs, so he could find out if any particular person was buying if he wanted to.

 

And i'm pretty sure he would've been itching to make headlines by mentioning Pujols as a user if he had any reason to point his finger at him.

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