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Jason Bay will likely miss the last 2 games of the yankees series. He was quoted as such today in the Globe.

 

Link?

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from rotoworld

 

It looks unlikely that Jason Bay (hamstring) will play in the final two games of the Red Sox/Yankees series.

 

"I wouldn’t write it off," said Bay. "But, it’s kind of the same issue as in Tampa. I came back a day or two before I should have, and I set myself back." If the injury lingers longer than the Yankee series, the Sox might as well put Bay on the disabled list. The Sox outfield is very banged up at the moment.

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Bay. He's not on the DL' date=' but his ass on the sidelines and unavailable even in extra inning games doesn't help this team much.[/quote']

 

Can't this guy even pinch hit? Cripes, zero runs in 15 innings against a so-so Yankee pitching staff.

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I have a feeling this is going to be like 2006 all over again

 

You know I've been thinking on this.

 

2004- WS Champs

2005- In the PO, outed by the eventual Champs

2006- Injury filled season, the depth much of us believed was just not there, no PO's

 

 

2007- Sox reload and win another WS,

2008- Made the ALCS, But were beaten by a better team at the time of the series.

2009- Injury filled, depth isn't there like some of us had hoped for. Playoffs are still within reach(I'm not jumping ship), but things will need to straighten out to some point to get there.

 

Similar 3 season spans overall IMO. The difference being 07,08,09's teams are all = to or better then the previous 3 seasons.

 

But if Wake and Dice-K can salvage the rest of their seasons and get right for the PO(if they are in of course), the team should be able to contend. If they make it and it's just Lester and Beckett. It will be a tough.

Posted
This is more like 2005 than 2006. Shallow rotation, aging and underperforming veterans, complete crapfest at short, one year rentals to fill out the rotation, the corner infield controversy, rookies called up in a frantic effort to save the season, it's all there.
Posted
This is more like 2005 than 2006. Shallow rotation' date=' aging and underperforming veterans, complete crapfest at short, one year rentals to fill out the rotation, the corner infield controversy, rookies called up in a frantic effort to save the season, it's all there.[/quote']

 

Sure was a good idea to keep Lowell an not sign Teixeira huh? :rolleyes:

Posted
Who are all the injuries now?

lowire

dice-k

wakefield

who I'm I missing.

 

2 of those 3 actually hurt us. Lowrie and Wake. Dice-K hasn't done crap all year he's been nothing but lousy. He's better on the DL anyways.

Posted
This is more like 2005 than 2006. Shallow rotation' date=' aging and underperforming veterans, complete crapfest at short, one year rentals to fill out the rotation, the corner infield controversy, rookies called up in a frantic effort to save the season, it's all there.[/quote']

 

But but, what happened to your amazing PiTChiNG DePtH?

Posted
I have a feeling this is going to be like 2006 all over again

 

But but' date=' what happened to your amazing PiTChiNG DePtH?[/quote']

 

Coming from someone who's rotation has Sergio Mitre pitching every 5th day...:rolleyes:

Posted
But but' date=' what happened to your amazing PiTChiNG DePtH?[/quote']We had this coming. A lot of posters were out of control saying that we were 7 or 8 starters deep etc. Most of us knew that was nonsense as did the FO, because they didn't trade away any rotation guys. Objectivity took a big back seat when pitching depth discussions were going on.
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We had this coming. A lot of posters were out of control saying that we were 7 or 8 starters deep etc. Most of us knew that was nonsense as did the FO' date=' because they didn't trade away any rotation guys. Objectivity took a big back seat when pitching depth discussions were going on.[/quote']

 

So you contend you knew, at the beginning of the season, that Wakefield and Dice-K would miss significant portions of the season at the same time?

 

If not, your premise is incorrect.

Posted

Dipre's right. We did start the season with great depth. Results like this is why you make sure you have that depth if you can.

 

We've actually had nearly as many problems this year as we had in 2006 at this point. It's having the extra options that's separated this year's result from 2006. You'll notice that we've officially used ALL of those 7-8 starters this year (even if we've only used Bowden and Tazawa in the pen, we've used them). In 2006 we used THIRTEEN different starters.

 

If we hadn't been this deep, and we'd have guys who failed like Daisuke or Smoltz or simply got hurt like Wake, we'd have to be desperately scanning the waiver wire for anyone's castoff pitchers. We might even have to pick up worthless scrub starters for the #5 role. Just for a random example, we might even have to use guys like Sergio Mitre.

Posted
Go find another organization that could have lost their #3 and #4 SP and been as good(not the last week) as the Red Sox have been. Most teams crumble if that were to happen.
Posted
Dipre's right. We did start the season with great depth. Results like this is why you make sure you have that depth if you can.

 

We've actually had nearly as many problems this year as we had in 2006 at this point. It's having the extra options that's separated this year's result from 2006. You'll notice that we've officially used ALL of those 7-8 starters this year (even if we've only used Bowden and Tazawa in the pen, we've used them). In 2006 we used THIRTEEN different starters.

 

If we hadn't been this deep, and we'd have guys who failed like Daisuke or Smoltz or simply got hurt like Wake, we'd have to be desperately scanning the waiver wire for anyone's castoff pitchers. We might even have to pick up worthless scrub starters for the #5 role. :lol:.

 

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Posted
June 14th is not March 14th.

 

I'm talking before the season.

 

On June 14th, Matsuzaka was already going through injury issues.

As of June 14the posters here were still very strongly putting forth the position that we had deep starting pitching. It's in the same thread.
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As of June 14the posters here were still very strongly putting forth the position that we had deep starting pitching. It's in the same thread.

 

Didn't we?

 

Wasn't until later that Wake got injured.

 

This rotation would still be at least stable had Wake not gone on the DL.

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Didn't we?

 

Wasn't until later that Wake got injured.

 

This rotation would still be at least stable had Wake not gone on the DL.

He is also 42-43 and has had injury problems the last couple of years. He also has a torn labrum. It was my opinion that we only had two reliable solid starters. It looks like I was right.
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Coming from someone who's rotation has Sergio Mitre pitching every 5th day...:rolleyes:

 

True, is not like you had Penny AND Smoltz as your 4th and 5th starter. Plus a rookie that has proved nothing in the bigs. You got me! :lol:

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