Phillies, Rangers interested in Wang

[BSN07]

Kennedy is meat in the AL East. He might be a good 4th or 5th SP in the NL.

 

 

Kennedy struggles from lack of stuff.

 

Buchholz brain get's in his way from time to time.

 

That is why both have had struggles. I'll take the mental issue over the guy with middling pitches. Kennedy is almost a mirror image of Mussina circa 04-07. Problem is he's only 25, not 35. Kennedy better develop a knuckleball or he's not playing past 30. IMHO. Which really all this is so don't get too fired up;)

[jacksonianmarch]

I am not trying to equate Buchholz and Kennedy. I am just trying to point out the hypocrisy that runs rampant here. Both of these guys had a good run at the end of 2007 and then sucked donkeyballs in 2008. Both have dominated AAA and pretty much every level they have been on. Both are pretty much exactly the same age. The idea that Buchholz is a future ace and Kennedy is meat is just hypocrisy since both have the goods to succeed but just need the experience at the big league level to develop into what they can be. I think that at their best, Buchholz would be better than Kennedy due to his arsenal, but there is no guarantee that he gets over his mental hurdles to surpass Kennedy and vice versa. I do think Kennedy safely profiles as a SP in the major leagues and I think he could be a nice asset to us. But the ideal situation would be for him to have his growing pains in a weaker division and then come back once he is a finished product.

[BSN07]

Ok fair enough. But Buchholz has the stuff to be an ace. Kennedy doesn't. I think is my part of the discussion. Unless Kennedy is the 2nd coming of Greg Maddux.

 

Personally I see him as a RH version of Jamier Moyer.

[jacksonianmarch]

That is off, IMO. Buchholz has the stuff to blow through minor leaguers but doesnt have the consistency to wait out the major leaguers. He will develop that in time. Kennedy throws harder than Moyer ever did and has better breaking stuff than Moyer ever did. Moyer gets by on being probably the best locator in the game since Maddux in his prime. Yet Moyer has only one plus pitch, his change. Kennedy has 1 plus pitch already (change) and 2 plus potential pitches in the slider and the 2-seamer when you consider break and location. Problem being, Kennedy is too cocky for his own good and just doesnt seem to care that the big league strike zone is smaller and the umps arent as lenient with a rookie out there.

[BSN07]

That is off' date=' IMO. Buchholz has the stuff to blow through minor leaguers but doesnt have the consistency to wait out the major leaguers. He will develop that in time. Kennedy throws harder than Moyer ever did and has better breaking stuff than Moyer ever did. Moyer gets by on being probably the best locator in the game since Maddux in his prime. Yet Moyer has only one plus pitch, his change. Kennedy has 1 plus pitch already (change) and 2 plus potential pitches in the slider and the 2-seamer when you consider break and location. Problem being, Kennedy is too cocky for his own good and just doesnt seem to care that the big league strike zone is smaller and the umps arent as lenient with a rookie out there.[/quote']

 

Moyer threw 89-92 when he first came up(I was watching his last start before the AS break and one of the analysts mentioned it).

 

Also I didn't mean the current Moyer. I ment Moyer in his prime. 86-89MPH. Good Change, with a couple average pitchers. He will eat some innings, give you a 4 something ERA. I see that as his ceiling. Maybe slightly better in the NL. If he gets his head right.

 

Buchholz ceiling is much higher.

 

 

But really this is just my personal opinion of what I see and expect to see. I could be spot on, or miss the boat by a mile.

[jacksonianmarch]

ah, ok. I can agree with that