Jesus Montero heads to AA

[Dutchy]

I wouldnt be shocked if he stayed in AA. Like I said' date=' I still think the yankees are trying to develop him into a decent catcher.[/quote']

 

I think they'd keep him in AA regardless of what position he plays. I know you're excited about him because he's one of the best positional prospects the Yankees have had in a while. But he is 19, with only 19 games experience above Single A. He still has a lot of learning to do. Even super prospects like Weiters get a few hundred at bats in Double A before they're promoted.

 

If he can be productive at that level for a full year, then I think you can start talking about when he'll get a call up. A lot of people consider that to be the largest jump in level of competition in the minors.

[jacksonianmarch]

He just hit another homer

[Dutchy]

He just hit another homer

 

That's cool :dunno:

[diony]

His ETA is Sept. 2011.

 

He's a top-10 prospect next season.

[jacksonianmarch]

Not sure where you are getting that ETA from. He might be a callup midseason next yr depending on how they rectify their OF and DH situation. At the latest, he's a september callup in 2010.

[diony]

Not sure where you are getting that ETA from. He might be a callup midseason next yr depending on how they rectify their OF and DH situation. At the latest' date=' he's a september callup in 2010.[/quote']

 

It's a realistic ETA.

 

Don't be an idiot, wait... nvm. He has absolutely no experience playing the OF, and you want to callup a 20 year 'catcher' with limited experience above A ball, who is the best hitter the Yanks' pathetic minor league system has produced since Derek Jeter just to DH? :dunno:

[Dutchy]

His ETA is Sept. 2011.

 

He's a top-10 prospect next season.

 

Depending on how he does this year, he might sneak into the top 10.

[jacksonianmarch]

I am not telling you what I am hoping. I am telling you what will happen. He'll need to be on the 40 man after next season, so putting him on it for a Sept callup in 2010 is not unrealistic. Also, if he continues to hit like this, he could theoretically be a nice bat to have through a playoff run a la Miguel Cabrera in 2003 for the marlins.

[Dutchy]

Not sure where you are getting that ETA from. He might be a callup midseason next yr depending on how they rectify their OF and DH situation. At the latest' date=' he's a september callup in 2010.[/quote']

 

I know this is probably breaking your heart here, but that's a much more realistic ETA than anything you've said. You're acting like he's an A-Rod, Price or Weiters. He has 20 games above Single A. IF he mashes at Double A this year OVER A FULL YEAR he might be a call up next year, he might not. A September callup in 2010 is preeeeeeeeeeeeeeetty optimistic at this point.

 

He's very young, and as you've said, he's very raw. Still has a lot to work on offensively and defensively.

[Dutchy]

I am not telling you what I am hoping. I am telling you what will happen. He'll need to be on the 40 man after next season' date=' so putting him on it for a Sept callup in 2010 is not unrealistic. Also, if he continues to hit like this, he could theoretically be a nice bat to have through a playoff run a la Miguel Cabrera in 2003 for the marlins.[/quote']

 

He's played 20 games at Double A. He hasn't proved a thing yet. Before you get a wet patch in your pants, please look up information on similar prospects. He's not Weiters, he's not Cabrera. He's not eve the Yankees best positional prospect.

[jacksonianmarch]

Montero is the yankees best bat in the minors, period. Jackson has the best total package because he profiles as a CFer and a pretty damn good one. But Montero has a Cabrera type impact bat.

[Dutchy]

Montero is the yankees best bat in the minors' date=' period. Jackson has the best total package because he profiles as a CFer and a pretty damn good one. But Montero has a Cabrera type impact bat.[/quote']

 

Sorry, but Montero is not Miguel Cabrera. I'm gonna be straight up with you. At first when I read your posts, I thought you knew your stuff but you were just a little biased. But when you say stuff like Montero(after 20 games at Double A) is a Miguel Cabrera kind of impact guy, I'm starting to think you're not actually biased, you just don't know your stuff.

 

Miguel Cabrera hit .365/.429/.609 over 266 at bats when he was first called up to AA. Montero couldn't even do that in rookie ball. So far, all Montero has done was put up an impressive Single A campaign. He has far too few Double A at bats to say how he'll do at that level.

 

Stop.overrating.your.prospects.

[TheKilo]

Sorry' date=' but Montero is not Miguel Cabrera. You're getting more and more ridiculous every comment you make know. It's starting to not even be entertaining anymore.[/quote']

 

lol, imagine reading his posts for three years.

 

You get numb to it after a while.

[Dutchy]

lol' date=' imagine reading his posts [b']for three years[/b].

 

You get numb to it after a while.

 

I can't imagine. I'm shocked he's been around that long without being embarrassed enough times to move on to another forum.

[jacksonianmarch]

Sorry, but Montero is not Miguel Cabrera. I'm gonna be straight up with you. At first when I read your posts, I thought you knew your stuff but you were just a little biased. But when you say stuff like Montero(after 20 games at Double A) is a Miguel Cabrera kind of impact guy, I'm starting to think you're not actually biased, you just don't know your stuff.

 

Miguel Cabrera hit .365/.429/.609 over 266 at bats when he was first called up to AA. Montero couldn't even do that in rookie ball. So far, all Motnero has done was put up an impressive Single A campaign and have far too few Double A at bats to say how he'll do at that level.

 

Stop.overrating.your.prospects.

 

 

I said he has a Cabrera type bat. I did not say he would be Cabrera. What I mean is, for a very young kid, he has incredible power, size, contact skills and patience at the plate. Now, you tried to make comparisons, so how bout we make some?

 

Age 18 Miguel Cabrera

LoA .268/.328/.382

 

Age 18 Jesus Montero

LoA .326/.376/.491

 

Age 19 Miguel Cabrera

HiA .274/.333/.421

 

Age 19 Jesus Montero

HiA .356/.406/.583

AA .319/.395/.542

 

Through his age 19 season, Cabrera had hit 19 homers in the entirety of his MiLB career. With half a season left, Montero has hit 32.

 

So, Montero is significantly ahead of the pace Cabrera set. To be fair, Cabrera's age 20 season was ridiculous in AA which prompted his callup. So, no, I am not overrating our prospects on this one. Montero is a legit offensive talent who is tearing through the minor leagues as the youngest player in his league. They also share another common thread as both are Venezuelan.

 

So, to reiterate for those who seem to be a bit thicker than others. Montero has a very advanced bat for such a young age. One that is not seen on a regular basis and his bat has the potential to make him a very rare and talented player. The only thing keeping him back is his defense.

[Dutchy]

I said he has a Cabrera type bat. I did not say he would be Cabrera. What I mean is, for a very young kid, he has incredible power, size, contact skills and patience at the plate. Now, you tried to make comparisons, so how bout we make some?

 

Age 18 Miguel Cabrera

LoA .268/.328/.382

 

Age 18 Jesus Montero

LoA .326/.376/.491

 

Age 19 Miguel Cabrera

HiA .274/.333/.421

 

Age 19 Jesus Montero

HiA .356/.406/.583

AA .319/.395/.542

 

Through his age 19 season, Cabrera had hit 19 homers in the entirety of his MiLB career. With half a season left, Montero has hit 32.

 

So, Montero is significantly ahead of the pace Cabrera set. To be fair, Cabrera's age 20 season was ridiculous in AA which prompted his callup. So, no, I am not overrating our prospects on this one. Montero is a legit offensive talent who is tearing through the minor leagues as the youngest player in his league. They also share another common thread as both are Venezuelan.

 

So, to reiterate for those who seem to be a bit thicker than others. Montero has a very advanced bat for such a young age. One that is not seen on a regular basis and his bat has the potential to make him a very rare and talented player. The only thing keeping him back is his defense.

 

Wow, you just sent my ******** meter through the roof. No one gives a flying f*** how many home runs Montero has hit against rookie and single a pitchers... even if they're both Venezuelan :lol:

 

You.are.ridiculous.

 

Montero is a good offensive prospect who's proven he can hit Single A pitching. That's it. He IS NOT an elite prospect. Sorry, but he just isn't, regardless of how much you jerk off over him. Go try to post this ******** in a Yankees forum and see how fast they laugh at you.

 

And don't go calling other people on this site thick, like you're intelligent. Please. You're the joke of this site. Even the Yankees fans make fun of you.

[jacksonianmarch]

There isnt much rebuttal for pure ignorance. Enjoy your night.

[Dipre]

Wow, you just sent my ******** meter through the roof. No one gives a flying f*** how many home runs Montero has hit against rookie and single a pitchers... even if they're both Venezuelan :lol:

 

You.are.ridiculous.

 

Montero is a good offensive prospect who's proven he can hit Single A pitching. That's it. He IS NOT an elite prospect. Sorry, but he just isn't, regardless of how much you jerk off over him. Go try to post this ******** in a Yankees forum and see how fast they laugh at you.

 

And don't go calling other people on this site thick, like you're intelligent. Please. You're the joke of this site. Even the Yankees fans make fun of you.

 

Signature. Worthy.

[Dutchy]

There isnt much rebuttal for pure ignorance. Enjoy your night.

 

I agree completely. That's why it's impossible to try to argue someone saying Montero is the next Miguel Cabrera because he put up better Single A ball numbers. I could use the same argument to say Ian Kennedy is better than Roger Clemens.

 

Follow Yankees prospects for a few more years, read up on player development and maybe you could hang in a serious conversation about prospects. If you don't believe me, then please go into a Yankees forum and say Montero is a Cabrera type impact bat and see how fast they run you out of there.

 

I'm not kidding. Seriously, PLEASE go into a Yankees forum saying Montero is a Cabrera type bat and send me the link. It would make my day.

 

This isn't even a matter of you being biased. You simply don't know what you're talking about.

[jacksonianmarch]

Like I said, you cannot rebut idiocy. I did not say he was the next Miguel Cabrera. In prospect circles, a Miguel Cabrera type bat does not mean that the player will hit like Miguel Cabrera. It means, that at a very young age, he has significantly advanced power, patience and contact. A ton of things could go wrong between now and when he debuts. But right now, he has a Cabrera type bat because he's 19 in a league filled with 23 yr olds and he is destroying pitching while maintaining a good K rate, a high average, a high SLG, and a high OBP

[jacksonianmarch]

BTW, he hit another one tonight

[TheKilo]

Make your picks

[diony]

.325/.395/.571 so far in AA.

[jacksonianmarch]

at 19, but he isnt an elite prospect. No way. LOL.

[BSN07]

Don't know much about the kid. But considering his age and the numbers he's putting up I'd be excited if he was in the Red Sox system.

 

He still has a lot to prove. It's a nice start though.

[jacksonianmarch]

2 for 3 tonight, BA up to .338

[jacksonianmarch]

http://www.projectprospect.com/article/2009/07/02/top-50-prospect-list

 

Montero is rated as the #11 prospect in the minors at this point by Project Prospect. McCallister fits in at 34 and Jackson at 48. But, as you know, he isnt a top prospect. Nope, not at all.

[Cocos Disciples]

Great, one person said he wasn't. I think everyone else admits he is. Get over it.

[jacksonianmarch]

finished 3-4 tonight with a BB. AVG up to .346 and OPS right near 1.000 as a 19 yr old in AA

[Dutchy]

finished 3-4 tonight with a BB. AVG up to .346 and OPS right near 1.000 as a 19 yr old in AA

 

:dunno:

 

I don't think anyone cares. I get that you have a raging boner for the guy but we really don't need you to update his stats line every time he gets a hit. He's gonna spend the year in Double-A, so we can just wait until the end of the year to check the stats.