No question. Molina is better than Posada.

[Gom]

Haha, Fransisco Cervelli and Kevin Cash.

 

I wonder how good they can frame their bats and s***.

 

Why do you like Varitek? He's got a 231 BA and a 330 OBP. He doesn't have much of an arm, but he's good at calling a game and framing pitches. I don't hear you guys complaining much. As you shouldn't. Same difference. If we can get better defense and a 200 BA out of catcher until Molina comes back, we'll be ok.

[CrespoBlows]

Why do you like Varitek? He's got a 231 BA and a 330 OBP. He doesn't have much of an arm' date=' but he's good at calling a game and framing pitches. I don't hear you guys complaining much. As you shouldn't. Same difference. [/quote']

 

What the f*** are you talking about? Varitek is despised on this board.

 

If we can get better defense and a 200 BA out of catcher until Molina comes back, we'll be ok.

 

That's what Molina already gives you.

[BoSox21]

aaaaaaaand now Molina's on the DL...

 

Yankees placed catcher Jose Molina on the 15-day disabled list with a grade-2 strain of his left quadriceps.

Horrible timing for the Yankees, who are already without starting catcher Jorge Posada. Kevin Cash was called up from Triple-A to take Molina's roster spot, and in all likelihood whoever plays better, Cash or the recently-promoted Francisco Cervelli, will get the bulk of the playing time. As for Molina's time out, Yankees GM Brian Cashman said, "We're hoping it's two weeks, but we will see."

 

Look for a cardboard cutout of John Flaherty to catch for the Yankees soon

[26 to 6]

This is ridiculous.

 

Sure, Molina is a better DEFENSIVE catcher than Posada, but it's ridiculous to think we're a better team with Molina as our everyday catcher than we are with Posada.

 

I'm not a big fan of him due to his PED use and affairs with girls my age, but I think with our catching situation the way it is now Paul Lo Duca might be a viable short-term replacement for Posada and Molina.

[jacksonianmarch]

He's delusional.

[ORS]

Keep on supporting idiocy Jacko. This is softball' date=' you moron. You need defense behind the plate. I wouldn't expect you to know this. This would mean actually understanding the game and not just the stats. There's more to baseball than what you see on your XBOX or PS3.[/quote']

Per the information shared here on this board, Jacko's time playing college ball trumps you playing in high school and umpiring. According to your rules of baseball knowledge heirarchy, you should be on your knees praying for education from him. Or was that "play the game" crap just another load of your ********?

[ARod2212]

Cervelli just caught a complete game shutout. I guess he's better than Posada too.

[CrespoBlows]

Cervelli just caught a complete game shutout. I guess he's better than Posada too.

 

Per the information shared here on this board' date=' Jacko's time playing college ball trumps you playing in high school and umpiring. According to your rules of baseball knowledge heirarchy, you should be on your knees praying for education from him. Or was that "play the game" crap just another load of your ********?[/quote']

 

pwn X 2

[jacksonianmarch]

Molina might find himself out of a job to be honest with you. Cervelli is known in the prospect circles for his defense, and if he shows to be capable with the veteran and rookie hurlers while putting up more or the same on the offensive end, Molina might be sent packing after a lengthy rehab. I have always thought that the yankees had their backup/defensive catcher in the system in Cervelli and now I am glad to see him in the bigs. Granted, I'd much rather have Posada, but Cervelli is taking the task well. And another thing that we should see over time out of Cervelli is solid patience. This is why I pegged him as being our eventual backup. His OBPs in the minors have been great. In 2006, it was .385. In 2007, it was .387. Last yr, he missed a lot of time due to the injury from ST, but he reached at a .432 clip in 21 games for Trenton at the end of the yr. He has a career IsoPatience of .100 in the minors. If he starts walking as well, Molina would have no use. So, that catcher who makes our team SOOOO much better would be looking for a job.

[Gom]

Didn't play college. Wasn't good enough to get on Hofstra's squad.

 

Cervelli has already done a better job with the pitching staff than Posada has done. Two games he caught, the Yankees gave up less than five runs.

 

There is no one in Posada's class offensively. Conversely, the same exists defensively. It's just a matter of which one is more important to you.

[PapelbonLester]

As a defensive yes but offensively its not even close.

 

http://tbebaseball.com/index.php?

[jacksonianmarch]

Didn't play college. Wasn't good enough to get on Hofstra's squad.

 

Cervelli has already done a better job with the pitching staff than Posada has done. Two games he caught, the Yankees gave up less than five runs.

 

There is no one in Posada's class offensively. Conversely, the same exists defensively. It's just a matter of which one is more important to you.

 

We mauled Hofstra.

[Gom]

We mauled Hofstra.

 

Congrats. You still have no idea about baseball.

[Dipre]

Congrats. You still have no idea about baseball.

 

Since Gom has returned, please be sure to pick up a pair of anti-FAIL gloves and ******** repellant at your nearest convenience store.

[diony]

Molina might find himself out of a job to be honest with you. Cervelli is known in the prospect circles for his defense' date=' and if he shows to be capable with the veteran and rookie hurlers while putting up more or the same on the offensive end, Molina might be sent packing after a lengthy rehab. I have always thought that the yankees had their backup/defensive catcher in the system in Cervelli and now I am glad to see him in the bigs. Granted, I'd much rather have Posada, but Cervelli is taking the task well. And another thing that we should see over time out of Cervelli is solid patience. This is why I pegged him as being our eventual backup. His OBPs in the minors have been great. In 2006, it was .385. In 2007, it was .387. Last yr, he missed a lot of time due to the injury from ST, but he reached at a .432 clip in 21 games for Trenton at the end of the yr. He has a career IsoPatience of .100 in the minors. If he starts walking as well, Molina would have no use. So, that catcher who makes our team SOOOO much better would be looking for a job.[/quote']

 

Don't even try to make a case about his offense. No pop, low contact OBP guys don't translate well to the majors (check Brett Gardner). The reason why he's in the majors is because he's young, cheap and plays nice defense. He's Jose Molina with better minor league numbers.

[jacksonianmarch]

Congrats. You still have no idea about baseball.

 

you are delusional

[Gom]

Is it any wonder the Yankees have had two games in which their pitchers gave up a total of 3 runs, and the only game they got bombed was by your idiot GM's posterboy for s***** pitching? Watch Cervelli. He isn't great at framing pitches, but he shows his glove before the windup and holds the pitch. What shows me how stupid you really are is that you don't see it. Like ORS, you are too stubborn to admit when you're 100% wrong, which like him, is more often than not.

 

You know, I really hope, for your patients sake, that you are not as stupid and stubborn as you are here. If so, I would take the under on how long you keep your license.

[jacksonianmarch]

you are delusional

[yankees228]

Is it any wonder the Yankees have had two games in which their pitchers gave up a total of 3 runs, and the only game they got bombed was by your idiot GM's posterboy for s***** pitching? Watch Cervelli. He isn't great at framing pitches, but he shows his glove before the windup and holds the pitch. What shows me how stupid you really are is that you don't see it. Like ORS, you are too stubborn to admit when you're 100% wrong, which like him, is more often than not.

 

You know, I really hope, for your patients sake, that you are not as stupid and stubborn as you are here. If so, I would take the under on how long you keep your license.

 

Sample size. Sample size. Sample size.

 

Two games. Two games. Two games.

 

And you give the catcher credit when the team pitches well, but when they pitch poorly, you blame it on the pitcher. You cannot have it both ways.

[BoSox21]

so when does the "Cervelli is better than Posada" thread start?

[ORS]

You cannot have it both ways.

You've been around this board long enough to know that is the only way Gom has it.

[Cocos Disciples]

^ Insult or sexual innuendo?

[Dipre]

^ Insult or sexual innuendo?

 

Probably both, and that's the beauty of it.

[CrespoBlows]

Is it any wonder the Yankees have had two games in which their pitchers gave up a total of 3 runs, and the only game they got bombed was by your idiot GM's posterboy for s***** pitching? Watch Cervelli. He isn't great at framing pitches, but he shows his glove before the windup and holds the pitch. What shows me how stupid you really are is that you don't see it. Like ORS, you are too stubborn to admit when you're 100% wrong, which like him, is more often than not.

 

You know, I really hope, for your patients sake, that you are not as stupid and stubborn as you are here. If so, I would take the under on how long you keep your license.

 

Didn't Cashman do exactly what you wanted to do?

[Gom]

so when does the "Cervelli is better than Posada" thread start?

 

Right about now.

 

I don't expect Red Sox fans to see what I see, because you have a decent defensive catcher. I am shocked that people who call themselves Yankee fans can't see how Posada negatively affects the staff. Cervelli is no Molina behind the plate, but he keeps the pitchers around the plate.

 

If Matsui can get in the OF, making Swisher the supersub, and Posada takes over DH, this team will be incredible.

[jacksonianmarch]

you are delusional

[diony]

Right about now.

 

I don't expect Red Sox fans to see what I see, because you have a decent defensive catcher. I am shocked that people who call themselves Yankee fans can't see how Posada negatively affects the staff. Cervelli is no Molina behind the plate, but he keeps the pitchers around the plate.

 

If Matsui can get in the OF, making Swisher the supersub, and Posada takes over DH, this team will be incredible.

 

You want Matsui AND Damon on the same OF? Really?

[Dipre]

You want Matsui AND Damon on the same OF? Really?

 

He wants the same OF of FAIL they had last year.

 

Only a genius like Gom would want Matsui's balky knees in the OF risking further injury, and not getting to balls Adam Dunn would catch with ease.

[yankees228]

You want Matsui AND Damon on the same OF? Really?

 

What's ironic about this is that Gom is making such a big deal about having a better defensive catcher...

 

I understand that defense at the catching position is more important than defense in the outfield, but it's just really odd to be content to sacrifice defense in one area yet go out of your way to improve it at another position. If Posada isn't catching, he is not playing (at least not nearly every day).

[yankees228]

Didn't Cashman do exactly what you wanted to do?

 

In fairness, he is really only referencing Hughes, and Cashman's failure to part with him for Santana (at least that's what I'm assuming).