Bruney has an injured elbow

[TheKilo]

per Abraham

[ORS]

Every time I go and read the LoHud blog, I can't help but wonder how strong the gravitational field around Abraham's face is. Something that big must impact the tides in some way.

[jacksonianmarch]

that will hurt. With Marte, Ramirez, and Veras having control issues, Bruney was really the counted on set-up man. I do like what I see out of Coke lately, at least over the last 4 appearances, and Albaladejo has been solid. But Bruney was the cog to that middle relief and we are likely seeing at least a 2-4 weeks absence with a sore elbow, and possibly tommy john if things go awry. Robertson is up right now, so he should help. And if Bruney goes down for a long period of time, I expect Melancon to come up. This bullpen went from being a strength to being inefective pretty quickly. We need Veras, Marte, and Ramirez to find their for from last yr pretty soon

[diony]

Marte was okay last night, aside from the HR.

[Dipre]

Not "ok", he was really good IMHO.

[Cocos Disciples]

That's rough indeed. I guess Marte is the setup man for now?

[Dojji]

that will hurt. With Marte' date=' Ramirez, and Veras having control issues, Bruney was really the counted on set-up man. [/quote']

 

Bruney has no control issues at all. Mostly because he just plain has no control to begin with.

[jacksonianmarch]

A strained flexor mass. Should keep him out a month. Dont like that one bit. I bet he'll have TJ by the end of the yr

[BoSox21]

I'm looking for the first person to post an article with the name Dr. James Andrews in it

[yankees228]

Bruney has no control issues at all. Mostly because he just plain has no control to begin with.

 

He definitely has control problems, but he had been pretty solid so far this year. Who knows, maybe he was turning a corner. This loss hurts an already poor bullpen.

[Dojji]

Can I let you in on a secret? Brian Bruney has started sharp every year, and every year, as he starts to wear down with the strain of the season, the wildness returns. I see no reason why this year was going to be different.

[yankees228]

In 2008 Bruney, although injured for much of the year, pitched pretty well at the beginning and at the end of the season. In 2007 he pitched well for the first three months of the season.

 

The Yankees are going to miss that.

[Mr Crunchy]

Bruney has easily been their best pitcher not named rivera in the bullpen and now he's out?

The yanks best get some deep starts from their hi priced rotation, wheres phil hughes and ian kennedy?

they are going to have to get into the fire sooner or later, kei igawa would be more effective than the s*** theyve been using..All of a sudden Mike Mussina looks like a gigantic loss.

[jacksonianmarch]

How does Mussina look like a gigantic loss? The rotation didnt do well in the sox series, that much is true, but where is the "tremendous loss"? Were we to keep Joba in the pen and try to get Mike to come back? We came into this yr with a solid plan for the rotation. We have backups in place to ensure that we can put quality out there on a nightly basis. And with Hughes coming up, that will start the process. The only thing you can "get on" the front office for was not monitoring CMW's rehab. Its pretty obvious that he rehabbed the foot but didnt keep the rest of himself in peak condition.

 

That being said, the biggest culprit thus far this season is the bullpen. Thats where the money is. Rivera has been solid sans one pitch to Bay. Bruney also started out well. Coke started out poorly but has really turned a corner. Albaladejo pitched well until Girardi overextended him and he left a sinker up to Lowell. So it isnt all terrible in our pen. The problem lies in the guys we thought were going to be setting up. Veras, Edwar and Marte have given up a combined 22ER in 22.2IP. That aint gonna get it done.

 

Getting back to the bullpen, I have three points to make about the kids...

1. Robertson: he looks BAD. Last yr, he was sitting 88-92 with occasional 94mph heaters, the changeup looked sharp at times and the curve looked tough to hit. He was inconsistent with the location, which was to be expected. But now, the heat in Fenway was 86-88 and the curveball looks much slower. If this is who he is to become, then he went from possible setup guy to barely 11th/12th pen guy. This is distressing. Hopefully it was just a bad day.

 

2. Melancon has a good fastball. 2 seamer, low to mid 90s, as advertised. But his moxie is what really impressed me. bases loaded, no outs and he gets out of it in Fenway in a close game. He is gonna be a big part of this bullpen this yr.

 

3. Another name to remember, Michael Dunn. He's a former 2004 draft pick who was taken as an OFer. He was converted to a pitcher in 2006 after failing as an OFer. He's a lefty who was inserted into the Charleston rotation in 2007 and pitched well. He featured a low 90s heater with a plus slider, but lacked command. Last yr, he had a mediocre season as a starter until he was converted to the pen for the last 9 appearances. And boy, he looks good. He's now sitting 94-96 from the left with a killer slider. And he has become untouchable. Thus far in trenton, he's been downright filthy

9.2IP 8H 1ER 17K 2BB for a K/9IP ratio of over 15. He was added to the 40 man this past offseason, so I would expect that he's on the fast track. If Veras, Ramirez, or Robertson are unable to get the job done, we might see Dunn up in a hurry

[Mr Crunchy]

Ya, the plan....The plan was to build within until the guys within couldnt handle the job so then they went out and gave the bloated sabbathia an 8 yr deal and 85M to burnett while hoping wang would rebound and win 20 again....Meanwhile their winningest and id have to say their most consistant pitcher over the last 10 years retired, they couldve wooed him back like they did petitte but didnt.

Im simply suggesting that they miss having Mussina in the rotation every 5 days, consistancy is something thats been missing from these guys,Mussina was consistant.

The biggest culprit is the bullpen?

I hate to argue this because the bullpen does suck and i mean really suck

however...

When your #1 and 2 guys have 7 starts between them and theyve given up double digits in 6 of them i would say the bullpen is getting taxed to death.

When you spot your legit#1(burnett) 6 runs and he gives back 8 in 5ip the bullpen isnt responsible.

what happened after that is of course on the bullpen but the yanks starters have been f***ing putrid..

Why not Hughes and Kennedy now.....it is time to panic because that pen isnt getting any better and the minor league studs are indeed pitching well, if not now,when?September would be ideal in a perfect world but Damaso Marte hasnt gotten anyone out in the American League, he isnt pitching in the NL Central anymore.

Forget about the guys in A ball, you know better than that.

1/2 wont be in their system after July 31st when theyre lingering in 4th place,9 games out and go after Roy Oswalt and Bronson Arroyo to save their season while Hughes and Kennedy lead Trenton to a 142-20 record in AAA ball....

They have no plan,theres never been any patience so long as the Steinbrenners ran the show.

they are reactionary and have been since the old man bought this team 35 years ago.

[jacksonianmarch]

so we can evaulate the entire season after a 9-9 start. I see. Yeah, smooth logic.

 

CC always starts slow. At the very least, he's giving us innings.

Burnett had been money until his last start. I can live with that

Pettitte has been our best pitcher thus far.

Joba has held his own, albeit he is a lot more wild than I thought he'd be

And Wang didnt recover enough from his injury.

 

There's our top 5. In a month, lets revisit the issue. I have a feeling you'll be singing a different tune about the fat bastard and the rest.

[BoSox21]

Joba has held his own

 

I noticed you used that saying rather than "Joba has been pulling his own weight" leaving the door open for many a joke

[Mr Crunchy]

Heres what i see

a washed up sabbathia who may have an era under 5 but has been lit up by last place teams and has managed 1 effective start against KC where he tossed a shut out.

75lbs overweight,a slow starter and a worse finisher and they blew their load on this f***ing guy who didnt want to be in NYC in the 1st place...He will have his moments but the idea of him being a #1 in the AL is ******** and i think NYC is coming to terms with this, if you get 200ip and a 4.75 era be happy.

a very effective Burnett,

THE man if you will, hes the ace of this staff, no one else is capable

petitte also effectively consistant, no longer capable of dominance but an innings eater and a crafty f***

joba has shown me a lot of courage and has decent #s but he loses his command, seems distracted and simply put cant dominate as a starter as he did as a set up guy because he cant throw 98 for 7innings a game, honestly he has impressed me more by battling than he has in the past.

will he be a starter?? i think they needed him in the pen more but we'll see.

Wang?...they didnt give him a lot of money despite his impressive win totals

hes awful now, down right awful and embarassing himself, maybe he take some lessons from Hideki Irabu and the endless list of pitching failures that have been decimated mentally in the bronx.

Hes about to Black Jack McDowell the crowd with the finger I feel

[jacksonianmarch]

cmon Crunchy, you are better than that. He was the Cy Young winner 2 yrs ago in the AL. And he had a pretty good pre-ASB in the AL last yr. Think before you post Crunch, you know better than that. Just for emphasis

 

March/April- 2006-2008

4-4 5.66ERA .296BAA 1.55WHIP

 

The rest 2006-2008

44-24 2.73ERA 1.09WHIP

 

He's a slow starter. It isnt even close how poorly he starts seasons. But just because he's now a yankee, the ceiling is collapsing and he's done. Solid, sound, extraordinarily insightful logic

[BoSox21]

we'll see....ive said before I think his innings totals from the past few years may come back to bite him in the ass

[jacksonianmarch]

at 27? Nah. His velocity has been fine. The breaking ball has been there at times. His biggest issue is that he's not locating. Makes me think he's just a bit rusty. And his stats prove it. He just is a bit off. For a guy who walked under 60 in 240IP, he's walked what, 15+ already in 4 starts? He's rusty, talk to me about it at the end of May

[BoSox21]

we both know control is more of a sign of break down as opposed to velocity

[jacksonianmarch]

are you on crack?

[TheKilo]

are you on crack?

 

What? He's totally correct.

[BoSox21]

are you on crack?

 

no, you're just ignorant, delusional and will go to any length to rationalize any Yankee-related cause for concern

[jacksonianmarch]

What? He's totally correct.

 

You typically see both a decline in velocity and a decline in control. If CC was "breaking down" then I highly doubt you see 96mph heat. Highly doubt it. And regardless, today showed you that CC is turning the corner. He was on point tonight. Too bad the homerball was about 3 inches out of Swisher's reach and hit the top of the wall and too bad our SS has no range to snag what should have been the final out of the inning in the first

[TheKilo]

LOL turning the corner

 

4 ER in 8

 

LOLOLOLOL

[jacksonianmarch]

did you watch any of the game? Any of it? Did you look at the rest of the line? Nah, probably not. Just take one stat and run with it. Common practice from you, we know. I should expect it.

[TheKilo]

did you watch any of the game? Any of it? Did you look at the rest of the line? Nah' date=' probably not. Just take one stat and run with it. Common practice from you, we know. I should expect it.[/quote']

 

He gave up four runs in eight innings, I don't give a f*** what the rest of his line said.

 

No, that's not fair. He may not have allowed many baserunners but he allowed 66% of them to score - is he doing his job at that point?

 

It also helps when you're out of the Bandbox in the Bronx.

 

You know who was dominant tonight? Justin Verlander. And Tim Wakefield.

[jacksonianmarch]

4ER in 8IP is not ideal. But the way he pitched, allowing only 6 runners to reach base in 8 innings, no walks, 7 K's, thats pretty solid and should be a nice hint of what is to come. His next start is in May, and he typically starts cruising in early May.