2009 Yankees Game Thread

[Dutchy]

I saw the whole game. That's my point. Pathetic.

 

Eh, whatever. The series is over now. We're still the best team in the American League and we've got Lester and Beckett against the Orioles in our next series.

 

I want to see Smoltz too. I missed his first start because I was on vacation.

[a700hitter]

Why does ESPN even bother covering soccer? This ex-USA soccer analyst is fruity as hell.

Does anyone even care? The entire USA team could walk through Time Square and no one would recognize them.

[TedWilliams101]

I wonder what the over/under would be on how long it will be before the Met's fall out of the race and maybe even fall below the Natinals.

[Spudboy]

he is such a putz. He overplays his blackness to a point of uncomfortability. Stu seems like a rich kid who now tries to get back to the street.

 

Boo-Yaa

Pickin up some bunnies wit da badooka dunk

etc..

 

I see. I've noticed that tendency. Especially when speaking with other black men. Still, he is black.

[a700hitter]

I wonder what the over/under would be on how long it will be before the Met's fall out of the race and maybe even fall below the Natinals.

The whole division sucks, so they'll probably stay in the race until the end just to torture their fans.

[TedWilliams101]

he is such a putz. He overplays his blackness to a point of uncomfortability. Stu seems like a rich kid who now tries to get back to the street.

 

Boo-Yaa

Pickin up some bunnies wit da badooka dunk

etc..

 

I think I have to agree with you there. He is pretty annoying. Really annoying.

[TedWilliams101]

The whole division sucks' date=' so they'll probably stay in the race until the end just to torture their fans.[/quote']

 

It's pretty sad when you can be under .500 and still be in the race.

[Spudboy]

I think I have to agree with you there. He is pretty annoying. Really annoying.

 

He wasn't always that way. He's gotten much worse in the last 3-4 years.

 

He should be replaced by Wendy Nix. I've met her. BOING!

[Dutchy]

he is such a putz. He overplays his blackness to a point of uncomfortability. Stu seems like a rich kid who now tries to get back to the street.

 

Boo-Yaa

Pickin up some bunnies wit da badooka dunk

etc..

 

He overplays his blackness. That's a new one.

 

Would it be an issue if a white guy "overplayed their whiteness" if they were from a poor upbringing but were an an environment with rich white guys?

[Spudboy]

He overplays his blackness. That's a new one.

 

Would it be an issue if a white guy "overplayed their whiteness" if they were from a poor upbringing but were an an environment with rich white guys?

 

These guys (ESPN) announcers, need to establish an on-screen identity. He is black. So why not play it up. He would be more disingenuous if he tried to sound like Howard Cosell.

 

But he is irritating at times. When he does it straight, he's good.

[Dutchy]

These guys (ESPN) announcers, need to establish an on-screen identity. He is black. So why not play it up. He would be more disingenuous if he tried to sound like Howard Cosell.

 

But he is irritating at times. When he does it straight, he's good.

 

Yeah, I don't like him either, but it has nothing to do with his race or how he acts in relation to his race. ESPN has a teleprompter, they do feed the guys lines. And they are the ones in charge of production. They might be the ones "overplaying his blackness".

 

Either way, I don't get the issue with a black guy, "acting black". So what if he is from a rich upbringing, so he's not allowed to identify with his race?

[yankees228]

No Carlos Beltran?

 

Not sure if this was pointed out, as I haven't read the entire thread (if it was, I apologize), but Beltran was playing the first time Burnett faced the Mets.

[Cocos Disciples]

Not sure if this was pointed out' date=' as I haven't read the entire thread (if it was, I apologize), but Beltran was playing the first time Burnett faced the Mets.[/quote']

 

And he was when the Sox played the Mets, which is what I was referring to.

[yankees228]

And he was when the Sox played the Mets' date=' which is what I was referring to.[/quote']

 

Oh absolutely. I meant it in reference to Burnett.

[Dutchy]

Oh absolutely. I meant it in reference to Burnett.

 

I don't think anyone was discussing Burnett's previous starts.

[yankees228]

Two of those four were against the Mets.

 

This was in reference to Burnett. Then Gom made a comment about the Red Sox, and people starting talking like the Mets were a different team when they faced the Red Sox. Offensively, the Mets were the same then that they were the first time they faced the Yanks (when Burnett started).

 

As for Burnett, he hasn't done it against the greatest offensive teams, but he has been good lately. He's been excellent since his start against the Red Sox, and, before that, he totaled 12 IP and 3 ER against the Rangers in two starts.

[Dutchy]

This was in reference to Burnett. Then Gom made a comment about the Red Sox, and people starting talking like the Mets were a different team when they faced the Red Sox. Offensively, the Mets were the same then that they were the first time they faced the Yanks (when Burnett started).

 

As for Burnett, he hasn't done it against the greatest offensive teams, but he has been good lately. He's been excellent since his start against the Red Sox, and, before that, he totaled 12 IP and 3 ER against the Rangers in two starts.

 

No, that was a reference to the Yankees winning four games in a row. No one was discussing Burnett's previous starts.

[yankees228]

No' date=' that was a reference to the Yankees winning four games in a row. No one was discussing Burnett's previous starts.[/quote']

 

Wow, I apologize. Completely misread that. For whatever reason, I thought the four in a row was in reference to Burnett having four good starts in a row, not the Yankees having won four games in a row. My mistake.

 

EDIT: That wouldn't have made sense anyway because Burnett has only had 3 good starts in a row. Not really sure what I was thinking. I guess I shouldn't be posting at 2 AM haha.

[Dutchy]

Wow, I apologize. Completely misread that. For whatever reason, I thought the four in a row was in reference to Burnett having four good starts in a row, not the Yankees having won four games in a row. My mistake.

 

EDIT: That wouldn't have made sense anyway because Burnett has only had 3 good starts in a row. Not really sure what I was thinking. I guess I shouldn't be posting at 2 AM haha.

 

Don't worry about it

 

That stuff happens.

[jacksonianmarch]

Yeah, I don't like him either, but it has nothing to do with his race or how he acts in relation to his race. ESPN has a teleprompter, they do feed the guys lines. And they are the ones in charge of production. They might be the ones "overplaying his blackness".

 

Either way, I don't get the issue with a black guy, "acting black". So what if he is from a rich upbringing, so he's not allowed to identify with his race?

 

I have no problem with somebody acting akin to their upbringing or their racial or ethnic class. I just find him disingenuous because is seems incredibly forced and some of the stuff he says just sounds ridiculously stupid.

[jacksonianmarch]

This was in reference to Burnett. Then Gom made a comment about the Red Sox, and people starting talking like the Mets were a different team when they faced the Red Sox. Offensively, the Mets were the same then that they were the first time they faced the Yanks (when Burnett started).

 

As for Burnett, he hasn't done it against the greatest offensive teams, but he has been good lately. He's been excellent since his start against the Red Sox, and, before that, he totaled 12 IP and 3 ER against the Rangers in two starts.

 

Burnett is coming around, regardless of what the peanut gallery thinks.

 

Over his last 6 starts, he's gone 6 or more innings 5 times. The only time he didnt was vs the Sox

 

His line over the last 6 is:

36IP 26H 7ER 20BB 42K

 

Still too many walks, but that comes out to a 1.27WHIP, 1.75ERA, and 10.5K/9IP. He's starting to slot in as a true #2 to CC's #1. And if Joba continues his recent success, we might end up with a pretty potent 1-4 when its all said and done, regardless of what Wang settles out as

[TheKilo]

So it's pretty clear the Sox and Yanks are the two best teams in all of baseball, and the Mets are probably the most pathetic.

[jacksonianmarch]

TK, I have a feeling we'll have an ALCS rematch. Something that eats 10 days of my life. Even though we cannot seem to get off the schneid vs you guys thus far, I expect it to go 7 games as usual.

[BoSox21]

who knows what'll happen, the postseason is a crapshoot right? we're just as likely to see an Angels/Tigers ALCS, right?

[yankees228]

Burnett is coming around, regardless of what the peanut gallery thinks.

 

Over his last 6 starts, he's gone 6 or more innings 5 times. The only time he didnt was vs the Sox

 

His line over the last 6 is:

36IP 26H 7ER 20BB 42K

 

Still too many walks, but that comes out to a 1.27WHIP, 1.75ERA, and 10.5K/9IP. He's starting to slot in as a true #2 to CC's #1. And if Joba continues his recent success, we might end up with a pretty potent 1-4 when its all said and done, regardless of what Wang settles out as

 

I'm not sure I'd call it a solid 1-4. I really don't trust Pettitte at all, especially against a good offensive team.

[Dutchy]

Burnett is coming around, regardless of what the peanut gallery thinks.

 

Over his last 6 starts, he's gone 6 or more innings 5 times. The only time he didnt was vs the Sox

 

His line over the last 6 is:

36IP 26H 7ER 20BB 42K

 

Still too many walks, but that comes out to a 1.27WHIP, 1.75ERA, and 10.5K/9IP. He's starting to slot in as a true #2 to CC's #1. And if Joba continues his recent success, we might end up with a pretty potent 1-4 when its all said and done, regardless of what Wang settles out as

 

Burnett's always been a streaky pitcher. He'll show periods of dominance and then revert back to his self. Currently, he's overachieving. His fielding independent ERA is 4.58, his BABIP is .285, his K/BB is less than 2 and he's stranded 77.9% of base runners.

[Dipre]

Burnett's always been a streaky pitcher. He'll show periods of dominance and then revert back to his self. Currently' date=' he's overachieving. His fielding independent ERA is 4.58, his BABIP is .285, his K/BB is less than 2 and[b'] he's stranded 77.9% of base runners.[/b]

 

This, in particular, is not sustainable.

[diony]

Burnett's always been a streaky pitcher. He'll show periods of dominance and then revert back to his self. Currently' date=' he's overachieving. His fielding independent ERA is 4.58, his BABIP is .285, his K/BB is less than 2 and he's stranded 77.9% of base runners.[/quote']

 

He does have a 3.93 ERA, is not like he has been lights out.

[Dutchy]

He does have a 3.93 ERA' date=' is not like he has been lights out.[/quote']

 

Even a 3.93 ERA is quite low for his peripherals. 1.37 WHIP, K/BB less than 2, unsustainable high LOB%, unsustainable low BABIP. He's pitched to more like a 4.60 ERA.

[jacksonianmarch]

Burnett has been streaky, but he typically gets better as the season goes on. I expect him to really continue to be dominant for the most part as the season wears on