2009 Yankees Game Thread

[jacksonianmarch]

7-2 since ARod came back. 13-15 without him. No, he hasnt been vintage to this point. But he's a presence. Hasnt hurt that our rotation has started to give depth. This team is getting a whole lot more fun to watch.

[Gom]

You're a clueless idiot.

[yankees228]

Gardenhire overmanages every game his team plays against the Yankees. The Twins would be better off if they tied him up and locked him in his office before the game.

 

What did he do today that you have a problem with?

[jacksonianmarch]

I dont think he overmanaged anything. As a matter of fact, his moves worked like a charm in the 8th, when we should have taken the lead. His team couldnt come through vs Brett Tomko in a bases loaded, 1 out spot. They deserved to lose.

[a700hitter]

What did he do today that you have a problem with?

With Mo out of the game, Gardenhire could have taken the advantage. Instead of going to his best-- Nathan, who would've liked a chance at redemption, he went to that puss-bag Crain who makes a career at losing to the Yanks.

[jacksonianmarch]

So' date=' Damon walkoff today?[/quote']

 

Ms. Cleo in the house

[yankees228]

With Mo out of the game' date=' Gardenhire could have taken the advantage. Instead of going to his best-- Nathan, who would've liked a chance at redemption, he went to that puss-bag Crain who makes a career at losing to the Yanks.[/quote']

 

That's fine, but you were upset at Gardenhire as if it were an obvious move. Gardenhire probably just falls into the large group of managers that doesn't believe in using your closer in a tie game on the road.

[TheKilo]

Those who predicted his precipitous offensive decline were very wrong.

 

Helps to play in that wind tunnel. He won't keep this up and he doesn't slug enough to be a COF.

[TheKilo]

I hope i get traded to red sox so i can make fun of yankee fans like this mother f***ing **** named gom

 

Why'd this guy get banned? Seems pretty sharp to me.

[TheKilo]

Ms. Cleo in the house

 

I GET RESULTS

[jacksonianmarch]

Helps to play in that wind tunnel. He won't keep this up and he doesn't slug enough to be a COF.

 

Have you seen most of his homers? They arent cheap. He's hitting the piss out of the ball. I wouldnt be surprised if Damon got some hCG as well.

[Gom]

I GET RESULTS

 

Yes you do, my friend.

[TheKilo]

Have you seen most of his homers? They arent cheap. He's hitting the piss out of the ball. I wouldnt be surprised if Damon got some hCG as well.

 

http://www.hittrackeronline.com/parks/Damon_Johnny_2009_scatter.jpg

 

Outs in Fenway Park

[jacksonianmarch]

Fenway park is not your standard park either. A righty with those distances would have the same amount of homers. If you go by a normal park, not one that starts out at 302 and then juts out to 388 rather quickly, most of those are homers.

[a700hitter]

That's fine' date=' but you were upset at Gardenhire as if it were an obvious move. Gardenhire probably just falls into the large group of managers that doesn't believe in using your closer in a tie game on the road.[/quote']Most managers are imbeciles. That doesn't mean that Gardenhire is any less of an imbecile. After losing 2 in a row, I think bringing in Nathan was an obvious move after getting Mo out of the way, but only for a manager that wanted to give his team its best chance of winning. I guess that Idiot Gardenhire wanted to give Nathan his best chance of getting a save. That opportunity never came and he got an L for his team. He has managed himself to more losses than any manger that I can remember, and he has done this with some pretty good teams.

[a700hitter]

Helps to play in that wind tunnel. He won't keep this up and he doesn't slug enough to be a COF.

Theere was no wind tunnel the last 3 years and there is none on the road. He is just a very good offensive player. He had just reached his peak when he walked and he is still there.

[Spudboy]

I'm not sure I'm on the correct thread but here goes. I'm watching the Yankees/Twins on ESPN. Boomer is doing play by play. I usually find him entertaining, particularly in pre and post NFL game discussions. But I have to say that IMO he absolutely blows goats doing baseball. He doesn't follow the game play well, doesn't seem to know the game well, and babbles about things of no particular interest. I Guess I'm spoiled by NESN broadcasts.

[TheKilo]

Theere was no wind tunnel the last 3 years and there is none on the road. He is just a very good offensive player. He had just reached his peak when he walked and he is still there.

 

Not for a COF

[Dipre]

Johnny Damon does not hold above-average value at a COF spot.

 

That is a fact, further discussion of the matter is useless.

[yankees228]

Shouldn't be giving away outs the way the offense is going so far this game.

[a700hitter]

Not for a COF

Offensive players are judged by how well they perform a role in the lineup. Damon is a very good lead off or number 2 hitter. He is not a number 3 or 4 hitter. The defensive outfield position that he plays is irrelevant to his offensive production. Ichiro is a corner outfielder and Ricky Henderson played LF for much of his career. Your "not a COF" attempt to denigrate Damon's offensive value is a specious argument.

[yankees228]

Offensive players are judged by how well they perform a role in the lineup. Damon is a very good lead off or number 2 hitter. He is not a number 3 or 4 hitter. The defensive outfield position that he plays is irrelevant to his offensive production. Ichiro is a corner outfielder and Ricky Henderson played LF for much of his career. Your "not a COF" attempt to denigrate Damon's offensive value is a specious argument.

 

I think it just comes down to the fact that there are different ways to judge these kind of things. You can judge his production as a COF, or you can judge his production as a number one or two hitter.

[TheKilo]

Offensive players are judged by how well they perform a role in the lineup. Damon is a very good lead off or number 2 hitter. He is not a number 3 or 4 hitter. The defensive outfield position that he plays is irrelevant to his offensive production. Ichiro is a corner outfielder and Ricky Henderson played LF for much of his career. Your "not a COF" attempt to denigrate Damon's offensive value is a specious argument.

 

It's not a spacious argument at all. If he was still a capable CF, the Yankees could play him there and then play Matsui in LF, making their lineup that much better.

 

Compared to other corner outfielders, he's just not that productive of an offensive player. Is he good? Sure. Not great, like you claim.

[yankees228]

Mistake there by Pettitte. Would have been a DP.

 

EDIT: Pettitte has been very fortunate. What's trouble is that the only times he succeeds this year, it always seems to very quite lucky.

[TheKilo]

Pettitte's made a career out of being lucky

[yankees228]

At the very least since he's returned to the Yankees.

[Dipre]

Offensive players are judged by how well they perform a role in the lineup. Damon is a very good lead off or number 2 hitter. He is not a number 3 or 4 hitter. The defensive outfield position that he plays is irrelevant to his offensive production. Ichiro is a corner outfielder and Ricky Henderson played LF for much of his career. Your "not a COF" attempt to denigrate Damon's offensive value is a specious argument.

 

So per your argument, since Damon is a good "No. 1 or 2 hitter", playing him at first would retain his offensive value?

[yankees228]

Speaking of luck, Carlos Gomez has been on base each time, and is yet to hit a ball hard.

[yankees228]

Wow, Derek Jeter is an absolute joke defensively.

[a700hitter]

It's not a spacious argument at all. If he was still a capable CF, the Yankees could play him there and then play Matsui in LF, making their lineup that much better.

 

Compared to other corner outfielders, he's just not that productive of an offensive player. Is he good? Sure. Not great, like you claim.

I never said he was great. That word was never used in any of my posts. I said that he is a very good offensive player, and that is true regardless of his defensive position.