Pedro Martinez....still a FA, could he return?

[BSN07]

13 pitcher started a game for the Yanks in 2008-

 

Mussina was good

 

Pettitte was ok

 

Wang was hurt

 

Joba was in the Pen

 

Hughes, Kennedy, Igawa, Aceves, Bruney, Pavano, Ponson, Rasner, Kennedy, and Giese where mediocre or worse.

[jacksonianmarch]

I was being sarcastic. Depth is more than just numbers, its quality. Our depth last yr was very green and then we lost a TON of pitchers to injuries. Think about it like this. Here was our opening day 5 man rotation

 

1. Wang- missed half the yr

2. Mussina- was awesome

3. Pettitte- ate innings

4. Hughes- was injured

5. Kennedy- injured and ineffective

 

to begin the yr, he were our options

6. Alan Horne- MLB stuff, good size, supposedly durable and on the rise. Blew out the shoulder and missed the yr

7. Humberto Sanchez- huge, imposing figure coming off TJ, needed the elbow cleaned out and came back as a reliever

8. Jeff Marquez- supposed innings eater with a power sinker who injured his leg and missed 2 months

9. Chase Wright- one of those last resort guys who missed a bunch of time throughout the yr with various injuries.

10. Steven White- 10th on the depth chart, regresses in AAA as a starter, get converted to relief and then DFAd.

11. Darrell Rasner- brought on after being dropped from the 40 man and signing a MiLB deal, makes 20 starts

12. Jeff Karstens- injured early and then got dealt away to Pitt

13. Daniel McCutchen- dominated AA and then solid in AAA, but we inexplicably dealt him when we could have used his innings eating capability

14. Phil Coke- Converted to relief halfway through the yr and dominated in that role.

15. Kei Igawa- he's Kei Igawa

 

Those are 10 contingency plans. Of those 10, 5 missed significant time, one flamed out, two got traded, one was Kei Igawa, and the other was converted to relief. This is what happens when the "stable" part of your rotation goes down. And that doesnt even mention Joba who was lights out then got hurt.

[Keeper]

And don't forget Carl Pavano.

[Mr Crunchy]

Pedros struggles in the al east began in 03 and by the end of 04 he was a mediocre pitcher in the al with an era around 4.

his 1st year with the mets in 05 he had an era of just under 3 but since then he has been putrid.

it would be like watching oj with the 49ers or namath with the rams or even worse, Orr with Chicago.

As far as wake goes, he is shaky but he still put up 180ip with an era of 4.10

180ip is good enuff for me at 4M per year and if we got those #s from penny or smoltz we'd be thrilled.

[Dojji]

Pedros struggles in the al east began in 03 and by the end of 04 he was a mediocre pitcher in the al with an era around 4.

his 1st year with the mets in 05 he had an era of just under 3 but since then he has been putrid.

it would be like watching oj with the 49ers or namath with the rams or even worse, Orr with Chicago.

As far as wake goes, he is shaky but he still put up 180ip with an era of 4.10

180ip is good enuff for me at 4M per year and if we got those #s from penny or smoltz we'd be thrilled.

 

Wouldn't necessarily call 16-9 with a 3.90 ERA "struggling." Certainly vintage Pedro was gone at that point however.

[a700hitter]

In the 2004 WS, I was feeling much more secure with Pedro on the mound than Wakefield.

[Mr Crunchy]

Toronto was hitting him,baltimore was hitting him,tampa was hitting him and he hadnt beaten the yankees for an eternity...its a matter of them being familiar with him and he losing a ton of velocity.

he was no longer dominant in the al east but still owned the oaklands the kcs and interleague play.

this is also why his era was a run lower in the national league the following season when he went to the mets.

i hated to see him go but theo did the right thing.

[Mr Crunchy]

No s*** Luca,really?

remember when wakefield closed for us?

that took 5 years off my life easily but when the wake was on he was arguably as dominant as petey was....then again i bet him 1 day whenhe gave up 6hrs against detroit and still won.

[a700hitter]

No s*** Luca,really?

remember when wakefield closed for us?

that took 5 years off my life easily but when the wake was on he was arguably as dominant as petey was....then again i bet him 1 day whenhe gave up 6hrs against detroit and still won.

Mentioning Wakefield in the same sentence with Pedro is bordering on baseball blasphemy.

[TheKilo]

Mentioning Wakefield in the same sentence with Pedro is bordering on baseball blasphemy.

 

You just did it.

[BoSox21]

You just did it.

 

You sly pootz

[a700hitter]

You just did it.

I was making the sign of the cross as I typed it.

[Keeper]