2009 Spring Training

[diony]

Why don't you go ahead and keep digging? A lot of very good big league players struck out a lot in the minors. What matters is what he does with the rest of his PA's.

 

GBs and FBs?

[Dojji]

Most of the time I at least understand what you're trying and failing to do when you post a barb, Diony. That one sailed over my head completely. WTH?

[diony]

His K% was 41.3 last year on his 3rd stint at AAA.

 

Let's compare him to other high Ks players.

 

Adam Dunn's career K% (minors): 22.4%

Adam Dunn career K% (MLB ): 32.4%

 

Jack Cust career K% (minors): 32.6%

Jack Cust career K% (MLB ): 41.2%

 

Ryan Howard career K% (minors): 31.6%

Ryan Howard career K% (MLB ): 33.4%

 

Van Every career K% (minors): 37.3%

Van Every career K% (MLB ):

[ORS]

Where'd you get 37.3%?

 

Actually, I know where you got it. You took his K's and divided by AB's, which, unsurprisingly, is wrong. K% is how often a player strikes out. AB's don't represent all plate appearances, so your numbers (for all those players) are overstated.

 

Carry on with the dipshittery.

[BSN07]

Where'd you get 37.3%?

 

Actually, I know where you got it. You took his K's and divided by AB's, which, unsurprisingly, is wrong. K% is often a player strikes out. AB's don't represent all plate appearances, so your numbers (for all those players) are overstated.

 

Carry on with the dipshittery.

 

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[diony]

Where'd you get 37.3%?

 

Actually, I know where you got it. You took his K's and divided by AB's, which, unsurprisingly, is wrong. K% is often a player strikes out. AB's don't represent all plate appearances, so your numbers (for all those players) are overstated.

 

Carry on with the dipshittery.

 

Wow, the stats were taken from Fangraphs but okay.

 

Quick Example.

 

Adam Dunn on 2008.

 

164 K on 517 ABs

 

What's the percent of Ks?

 

Strikeout Percentage = Strikeouts / Official At Bats

 

164/517 = 31.7%

 

And according to Fangraphs his K% for the 2008 season was: 31.7%

 

Here's some reading that might help: Link

 

At bat: Batting appearances, not including bases on balls, hit by pitch, sacrifices, interference, or obstruction.

 

Am I going too fast?

[riverside sluggers]

Exactly the # of ABS shown doesnt take in account his walks, HBP's, sac hits or sac fly's

[ORS]

Just because fangraphs is stupid too doesn't excuse you in my book. Think, if you are capable, about what this information tells you. It doesn't tell how often a player strikes out, it tells you how often a player strikes out when they don't BB, HBP, IBB, or SF. It adds a qualifier, or caveat, that requires additional information for the first piece of information to be meaningful.

[diony]

Just because fangraphs is stupid too doesn't excuse you in my book. Think' date=' if you are capable, about what this information tells you. It doesn't tell how often a player strikes out, it tells you how often a player strikes out when they don't BB, HBP, IBB, or SF. It adds a qualifier, or caveat, that requires additional information for the first piece of information to be meaningful.[/quote']

 

Oh yeah, the stats are OK, btw. :harhar:

 

Carry on with the dipshittery.

[ORS]

Baseball Prospectus and common sense disagree. Since you lack the latter, I suggest you read more of the former.

[diony]

Baseball Prospectus and common sense disagree. Since you lack the latter' date=' I suggest you read more of the former.[/quote']

 

Wow, that's Strikeout Rate (K), which is a different stat, you retard.

 

Jesus.

[ORS]

From the definition:

 

Strikeout Rate (K) is one of five primary production metrics used by PECOTA in identifying a player's comparables. It is defined as SO/PA.

 

Where does this disagree with what I said? Read much?

[italstallianion]

Wow, the stats were taken from Fangraphs but okay.

 

Quick Example.

 

Adam Dunn on 2008.

 

164 K on 517 ABs

 

What's the percent of Ks?

 

Strikeout Percentage = Strikeouts / Official At Bats

 

164/517 = 31.7%

 

And according to Fangraphs his K% for the 2008 season was: 31.7%

 

Here's some reading that might help: Link

 

At bat: Batting appearances, not including bases on balls, hit by pitch, sacrifices, interference, or obstruction.

 

Am I going too fast?

 

 

 

Speaking of strikeout-rate, you've struck out on nearly 100% of your posts...quit while you're only this far behind...

[Cocos Disciples]

*Is thoroughly entertained*

[MANNYHOF24]

Wow' date=' that's Strikeout Rate (K), which is a different stat, you retard.

 

Jesus.

 

How does your SO rate have any relevance? Seriously it doesnt. Stop getting taken to school and quit while your already way behind.

[diony]

From the definition:

 

Strikeout Rate (K) is one of five primary production metrics used by PECOTA in identifying a player's comparables. It is defined as SO/PA.

 

Where does this disagree with what I said? Read much?

 

The stat I posted was Strikeout Percentage (K%). If you don't agree with it, then f*** off. You totally confused it with K Rate, but that's not a surprise considering you're a f***ing idiot.

 

Hmm so yeah, okay faggot.

 

Speaking of strikeout-rate' date=' you've struck out on nearly 100% of your posts...quit while you're only this far behind...[/quote']

 

Asslicker #1

 

How does your SO rate have any relevance? Seriously it doesnt. Stop getting taken to school and quit while your already way behind.

 

Asslicker #2

 

Thanks for joining.

[ORS]

The stat I posted was Strikeout Percentage (K%). If you don't agree with it, then f*** off. You totally confused it with K Rate, but that's not a surprise considering you're a f***ing idiot.

 

Hmm so yeah, okay faggot.

Look, I'm sorry you missed the lesson on connecting the dots in kindergarten, but you really should have sought remediation there. Follow this (if you can).....

 

Look at what the BP stat is used for in its definition. It is a production rate used in a system to determine comparable players. Since you seem to have some difficulty with vocabulary too, I'll put that in layman's terms, oops that was too big a word for you, I'll break it down Barney style. What that means is that it is a percentage (rate) used to do exactly what you were doing upthread, comparing players. So, in other words, BP, a site at the forefront of modern baseball statistical analysis, uses K/PA rather than K/AB when doing exactly what you were doing earlier, which is what I said to begin with. The fact that you missed this and had to have it explained to you is totally unsurprising and hilarious at the same time.

[CrespoBlows]

The stat I posted was Strikeout Percentage (K%). If you don't agree with it, then f*** off. You totally confused it with K Rate, but that's not a surprise considering you're a f***ing idiot.

 

Hmm so yeah, okay faggot.

 

 

 

Asslicker #1

 

 

 

Asslicker #2

 

Thanks for joining.

 

lol

 

I love when people freak out on message boards.

[ORS]

lol

 

I love when people freak out on message boards.

You would, you faggot asslicker.

[Cocos Disciples]

lol

 

I love when people freak out on message boards.

 

This. Diony, seriously, chill out.

[CrespoBlows]

You would' date=' you faggot asslicker.[/quote']

 

Thanks for playin'!

 

Fagit asslickre #2

[italstallianion]

The stat I posted was Strikeout Percentage (K%). If you don't agree with it, then f*** off. You totally confused it with K Rate, but that's not a surprise considering you're a f***ing idiot.

 

Hmm so yeah, okay faggot.

 

 

 

Asslicker #1

 

 

 

Asslicker #2

 

Thanks for joining.

 

 

 

Wow, I guess I totally got served....I'm no match for Diony...hahaha

[Dojji]

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[Cocos Disciples]

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[Dipre]

Where'd you get 37.3%?

 

Actually, I know where you got it. You took his K's and divided by AB's, which, unsurprisingly, is wrong. K% is how often a player strikes out. AB's don't represent all plate appearances, so your numbers (for all those players) are overstated.

 

Carry on with the dipshittery.

 

Just because fangraphs is stupid too doesn't excuse you in my book. Think' date=' if you are capable, about what this information tells you. It doesn't tell how often a player strikes out, it tells you how often a player strikes out when they don't BB, HBP, IBB, or SF. It adds a qualifier, or caveat, that requires additional information for the first piece of information to be meaningful.[/quote']

 

Baseball Prospectus and common sense disagree. Since you lack the latter' date=' I suggest you read more of the former.[/quote']

 

From the definition:

 

Strikeout Rate (K) is one of five primary production metrics used by PECOTA in identifying a player's comparables. It is defined as SO/PA.

 

Where does this disagree with what I said? Read much?

 

Look, I'm sorry you missed the lesson on connecting the dots in kindergarten, but you really should have sought remediation there. Follow this (if you can).....

 

Look at what the BP stat is used for in its definition. It is a production rate used in a system to determine comparable players. Since you seem to have some difficulty with vocabulary too, I'll put that in layman's terms, oops that was too big a word for you, I'll break it down Barney style. What that means is that it is a percentage (rate) used to do exactly what you were doing upthread, comparing players. So, in other words, BP, a site at the forefront of modern baseball statistical analysis, uses K/PA rather than K/AB when doing exactly what you were doing earlier, which is what I said to begin with. The fact that you missed this and had to have it explained to you is totally unsurprising and hilarious at the same time.

 

Wow.

 

This is all pure unadulterated ownage.

 

My hat goes off to you, sir.

[MANNYHOF24]

The stat I posted was Strikeout Percentage (K%). If you don't agree with it, then f*** off. You totally confused it with K Rate, but that's not a surprise considering you're a f***ing idiot.

 

Hmm so yeah, okay faggot.

 

 

 

Asslicker #1

 

 

 

Asslicker #2

 

Thanks for joining.

 

 

Haha, classic.

[diony]

Look, I'm sorry you missed the lesson on connecting the dots in kindergarten, but you really should have sought remediation there. Follow this (if you can).....

 

Look at what the BP stat is used for in its definition. It is a production rate used in a system to determine comparable players. Since you seem to have some difficulty with vocabulary too, I'll put that in layman's terms, oops that was too big a word for you, I'll break it down Barney style. What that means is that it is a percentage (rate) used to do exactly what you were doing upthread, comparing players. So, in other words, BP, a site at the forefront of modern baseball statistical analysis, uses K/PA rather than K/AB when doing exactly what you were doing earlier, which is what I said to begin with. The fact that you missed this and had to have it explained to you is totally unsurprising and hilarious at the same time.

 

How hard is for you to understand I wasn't using BP stats to compare players. I was using K% (K/AB ), which is a different stat. Two different stats? Read much?

 

I'm not making a PECOTA projection for Van Every, right? I'm proving he Ks more than what Dunn, Cust and Howard used to. Which is not so complicated.

 

What did you prove? Van Every is a f***ing K-machine no matter what stat you use anyway.

[BSN07]

diony is in a spiral of self destruction.

 

 

 

Over under on when he gets banned anyone?

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Wow, the stats were taken from Fangraphs but okay.

 

Quick Example.

 

Adam Dunn on 2008.

 

164 K on 517 ABs

 

What's the percent of Ks?

 

Strikeout Percentage = Strikeouts / Official At Bats

 

164/517 = 31.7%

 

And according to Fangraphs his K% for the 2008 season was: 31.7%

 

Here's some reading that might help: Link

 

At bat: Batting appearances, not including bases on balls, hit by pitch, sacrifices, interference, or obstruction.

 

Am I going too fast?

Ignoring the stats crap, why do insist on posting two irrelevant smilies in every post you make?

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

The stat I posted was Strikeout Percentage (K%). If you don't agree with it, then f*** off. You totally confused it with K Rate, but that's not a surprise considering you're a f***ing idiot.

 

Hmm so yeah, okay faggot.

 

ORS is about 173 times smarter than you are.

 

Thanks for playin'!

 

Fagit asslickre #2

 

Hahahaha