Manny on verge of signing with Yankees

[Gom]

I feel like Jacko...jumping the gun a bit, but at least I'm putting it out there that the source is not the most credible one. The money seems wrong, but if it's true, it's all but guaranteed the Yankees a playoff spot next year.

 

According to a report in the Dominican newspaper Impacto Deportivo, the Yankees are on the verge of signing Manny Ramirez to a three-year, $75MM deal. The report says negotiations are advanced and an announcement would take place Monday or Tuesday. If true, this would be an incredible scoop. However, there is reason for skepticism. The money and timing just don't seem right.

 

A look at Impacto Deportivo's recent history:

11/24/08: Reported the Braves as the mystery team in on Rafael Furcal, offering four years and $52MM. The offer was inaccurate, but they did nail the mystery team.

11/12/08: Correctly scooped the Damaso Marte signing.

2/21/08: Incorrectly indicated the White Sox reached an agreement with Bartolo Colon. Also incorrect on a similar rumor involving the Royals.

1/21/08: Correctly scooped the Octavio Dotel signing.

11/18/07: Correctly scooped the Luis Castillo signing.

[Cocos Disciples]

First off: lol @ Dominican newspaper.

 

Second, since it's going to happen eventually whether this is true or not, congrats. He's pretty damn good. Can't wait to boo him senseless.

[example1]

Sounds about right. Manny the spoiled douchebag who quits on teams whenever he feels like it will sign for $25m with the team whose fans don't care about how much money their players cost. A match made in heaven.

 

*Gom, how does this fit with your comment that the Yankees are the giant, throbbing, Elephant in the room that Sox fan can never forget about lest they be silly and naive, with regards to Teixeira and every other deal ever proposed?

 

The Yankees are not only on the verge of signing Manny, but they are also the negotiating with Teixeira to sweep in and take him from the Red Sox, thanks to the error that John Henry made by leaving the door open... the error that only you were smart enough to envision.

 

There is no limit to their greatness, all hail the Yankees!

 

Rack 'em up!

 

A-Rod: 32m

Manny: 25m

Jeter: 20m

Sabathia: 14m (23 paid 10-15)

Burnett: 16.5

Rivera: 15m

Posada: 13.1m

Damon: 13m

Matsui: 13m

 

$161.6m on 9 players.

[Gom]

I think the money is off...and like I quoted [it was Tim Dierkes's quote anyways] that this paper has scooped some stories in the past, but also missed. Take it with a grain of salt.

[Cocos Disciples]

They're not going to sign both Manny and Tex, so this helps the Sox chances.

[example1]

I think the money is off...and like I quoted [it was Tim Dierkes's quote anyways] that this paper has scooped some stories in the past' date=' but also missed. Take it with a grain of salt.[/quote']

 

I know it will give you pleasant dreams tonight though, won't it Gom? Visions of players who were not trained in the Yankee system, coming in from elsewhere without any unified philosophy other than uniting for that one cause, cash money. Hopefully along the way they will be able to win a WS and to cement themselves in the same hallowed ground as Ruth, Mantle and Berra.

[example1]

They're not going to sign both Manny and Tex' date=' so this helps the Sox chances.[/quote']

 

Oh, but Gom said that the Yankees are the elephant in the Teixeira room, and that he's the only one who has thought about how Henry might have made a disasterous move being so stingy as to try to save 20m or so in a negotiation. Pshaw!! Who tries to save a measley 20m? Certainly not any good business people.

 

 

Gom, I'm sorry brother. I really appreciate you around here, but your rock solid claims mixed with a playful condescention about matters related to baseball--as if you're the only one who has thought of things--warrants some comments if you were to turn out to be wrong. I know it's never happened before, but I'm just preparing if it comes to that.

[26 to 6]

Just saw the same report, Gom beat me too it. I'm a little surprised, I would figure Scott Boras would want to wait until Tex was locked up before starting the Manny negotiations, but if it was a mutual desire to get a deal done between Manny (as he's said on countless occasions in recent years he would like to play for the Yankees) and the Yanks then I can understand why negotiations moved forward so quickly. And s***, if the financials in the report are accurate, $25 mil every year until he's 39 isn't a bad deal for him, it's possible nobody would have outbid it anyway.

 

As for Tex I'm getting the ever increasingly feeling that we're making a strong, late push for him, and I think it may be down to just the Red Sox, and Yankees, even though we don't know very many details about their interest and possible negotiations. Arte Moreno claims to be out of it because he doesn't want to get used to drive the price up, as it appears he has no interest in going back to the Angels. And Buster Olney claims that he spoke to "someone who talked to a member of the Nationals' front office" and that the Nationals absolutely do NOT expect to win the bidding. So it'll be interesting to see how it plays out over the next few days with Teixeira's decisions supposedly set to come before Christmas.

 

I think it may be possible that the Yankees just go on a spending spree and because of the divide in the front office decide to just pursue both. I can see that coming from the top.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

if it's true' date=' it's all but guaranteed the Yankees a playoff spot next year.[/quote']

 

no.

[26 to 6]

no.

Sure it does

[riverside sluggers]

Johnny Damon's return to Fenway will be nothing like Manny's. The park will be shaking from all the boos

 

So-- CC, Burnett, Manny, and Yankee fans still want the FO to sign Tex

 

Roughly $500 million right there

[Gom]

Oh' date=' but Gom said that the Yankees are the elephant in the Teixeira room, and that he's the only one who has thought about how Henry might have made a disasterous move being so stingy as to try to save 20m or so in a negotiation. Pshaw!! Who tries to save a measley 20m? Certainly not any [i']good[/i] business people.

 

 

Gom, I'm sorry brother. I really appreciate you around here, but your rock solid claims mixed with a playful condescention about matters related to baseball--as if you're the only one who has thought of things--warrants some comments if you were to turn out to be wrong. I know it's never happened before, but I'm just preparing if it comes to that.

I understand your point. The thing is this...I really don't know what happens with Boras. So I follow the money, and that seems to work best. Also, I am trying to look at it from Boras's viewpoint, the teams' viewpoints, and the player.

 

For Tex...Angels, Yankees, Boston, in no order.

For Boras: Boston, then Nationals/Orioles

For the teams: Angels, Boston/Yankees

 

I think what Henry did that I disagreed with, if I was the owner, was make that comment. The longer this drags out, the less I like the chances of him going to Boston, only because it gives the Yankees more of a chance to get involved.

 

Trying to think as if I was a Red Sox FO...with Youkilis, Pedroia, and Tex, you'd have a solid core of good hitters to transition you from the current regime of hitters. Barring injury, you've got a solid core for 5-6 years.

 

As the Angels, how can you expect to compete if you lose K-Rod, Garland, Anderson, and Teixeira in one off-season? Probably still win the AL West, but that's about it. You're pretty much the sacrificial lamb of the post-season.

 

For the Yankees, Tex is a perfect bridge the gap player. He's an elite hitter, and probably the best 1B since Mattingly. He transitions the team as the young players come up through the system, and the older ones are phased out. It seems foolish to go this far and be lacking punch in the lineup when the calendar turns to October.

 

So...there are different viewpoints, different agendas...I just think the Red Sox would have been better served giving him an ultimatum, and then backing off. Leaving the door open plays into Boras's hand, and he's the one who initiated contact with the Yankees.

 

I gotta like what the Angels "say" they've done. Moved on. That leaves Tex with one option if he wants to win...the Red Sox. The longer they wait, the better the chances he ends up in the Bronx. Are the Angels really out? I doubt it. That's why I take all this stuff with a grain of salt, and try as best as I can to put myself in the respective shoes of the person in question.

 

This is an objective view, not based on fandom, but rather logic.

[jacksonianmarch]

Sounds about right. Manny the spoiled douchebag who quits on teams whenever he feels like it will sign for $25m with the team whose fans don't care about how much money their players cost. A match made in heaven.

 

why should I care? I go to one game a yr and MLB extra innings will be the same regardless. I want them to put the best product on the field, regardless of the cost.

[BoSox21]

Impacto Deportivo......christ

[BSN07]

I doubt this report is accurate. Last I read/heard was the Yankees FO was split on Manny, and they where thinking of a 1 year deal, and they didn't want to pay 25M a season. This seems to be the total oppostite of the Dominican report.

 

 

And I don't see Boras letting Manny sign before Tex. Unless Boras told the Yanks that if they gave 3/75M then they would sign right away, kinday like the you can sign Tex right now for 8/195M.

[Paradisecity]

I wonder when Impacto Deportivo called the 2000 presidential election?

[TheKilo]

lol @ Deportivo for the name of a newspaper from the Dominican

[BoSox21]

The credibility of the source aside, this report would surprise me if true if only for the fact that any team who would persue Manny is currently involved in the Tex negotiations (just swap out Boston for the Dodgers) therefore implying that Manny would be a consolation prize for someone who failed in inking Tex. So I don't see how or why Manny would sign before Tex.

[riverside sluggers]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/thebuzz/

 

Brian Cashman shot down this rumor, saying in a text "Not true"

 

Unlike the Steinbreners, Cashman isnt interested in going after Manny

[BoSox21]

of course it's not true, how can a report be credible when this is the guy who wrote it

 

http://www.123teachme.com/cms_images/funny/cantante_cubano.jpg

[Mr Crunchy]

Manny,the spoiled douchebag,the guy who had the pleasure of being waived by this ownership group as its 1st act of business played his own ""act of business"" by forcing a trade and putting some more cash in his pocket.

Go ahead and boo his ass off, it fits in with everything boston does to its players who move on.

whens the next sox old timers day?

has there ever been one?

probably not,they dont produce enuff d batteries to throw at heros from years gone by to satisfy 36,000 pissed of fans.

i dont want to see him 18 times a year in pinstripes, not remotely.

[Paradisecity]

Poor Manny, huh Sean?

 

No offense, but all Manny apologists pretty much lost any sort of "Poor Manny" defense as he sat in Fenway's dugout smiling, holding a "Trade me for Brett Favre" sign, laughing at the big funny joke.

 

Poor Manny

********.

[BSN07]

MLB.com's Bryan Hoch asked Yankees GM Brian Cashman about this report. Cashman responded: "Not true."

[riverside sluggers]

Manny,the spoiled douchebag,the guy who had the pleasure of being waived by this ownership group as its 1st act of business played his own ""act of business"" by forcing a trade and putting some more cash in his pocket.

Go ahead and boo his ass off, it fits in with everything boston does to its players who move on.

whens the next sox old timers day?

has there ever been one?

probably not,they dont produce enuff d batteries to throw at heros from years gone by to satisfy 36,000 pissed of fans.

i dont want to see him 18 times a year in pinstripes, not remotely.

 

Ill be booing because of his antics to get out of Boston (including shoving a 62 year old man to the ground), even though they were in a playoff push. Signing with the Yankees would only be the tip of the ice berg. Johnny Damon, Roger Clemens and Jay Payton are the only former Red Sox I have booed at Fenway. I have joined in on the standing ovations for Pedro, Kevin Millar, Orlando Cabrera, Trot

[Mr Crunchy]

If you dissect my posts going back to the old man incident you will see very clearly I,ME,Sean, was predicting the end of it that very day.

No poor manny

whos apologizing??

he lost me that me day and cost the sox the world series at that very moment.

i had hoped that nobody in the east would ink him and hed be on his knees looking for a job.

too bad

seeing him 18 times in a yankee uniform would all but ruin the next 3 years of baseball for me and that makes it poor sean, not poor manny...

manny has 160M in the till already

Id ultimately like to see him in los angeles with the halos or the dodgers but if hes turning down 45m over 2 does he really think hes getting 100/4?

His agent may have over played his hand.

[Dipre]

http://www.rumbodigital.com/imagesportal/franklin_mirabal.jpg

 

That's actually the guy who wrote the "Manny signing report", and he's the guy who correctly predicted the Damaso Marte signing a couple months ago,

 

He got lucky that time, but Just For The Record, he's ranked right over G.W in my "Douchebag List" so take his comments with a sack of salt.

[pinstripezac]

http://www.rumbodigital.com/imagesportal/franklin_mirabal.jpg

 

That's actually the guy who wrote the "Manny signing report", and he's the guy who correctly predicted the Damaso Marte signing a couple months ago,

 

He got lucky that time, but Just For The Record, he's ranked right over G.W in my "Douchebag List" so take his comments with a sack of salt.

 

 

I don't think you can blame the writers to much this time of year

 

it's reader beware season,

 

GM's, agents and in this case, most likely the player ,

 

all want to float phony stories for different reasons

[naptownsoxfan]

I feel like Jacko...jumping the gun a bit' date=' but at least I'm putting it out there that the source is not the most credible one. The money seems wrong, but if it's true, it's all but guaranteed the Yankees a playoff spot next year.[/quote']

 

Even if you get Manny the Yanks got to prove it to me. You can have Manny and all the headaches that come with him.

[MANNYHOF24]

Even if you get Manny the Yanks got to prove it to me. You can have Manny and all the headaches that come with him.

 

Do you really think Manny will act out in a way that destroys the team? I do not want manny to sign with the Yankees, that scares the living s*** out of me, and it should scare everyone. Especially for next year. Manny was only a minor headache for most of his time here, and he will probably be on pretty good behavior next year where ever he goes.

[example1]

I understand your point. The thing is this...I really don't know what happens with Boras. So I follow the money' date=' and that seems to work best. Also, I am trying to look at it from Boras's viewpoint, the teams' viewpoints, and the player. [/quote']

 

Okay, whatever... you are rational, everyone else is lost in their emotions.

 

For Tex...Angels, Yankees, Boston, in no order.

For Boras: Boston, then Nationals/Orioles

For the teams: Angels, Boston/Yankees

 

I guess...

 

I think what Henry did that I disagreed with, if I was the owner, was make that comment. The longer this drags out, the less I like the chances of him going to Boston, only because it gives the Yankees more of a chance to get involved.

 

Newsflash: The Yankees have had all the chances they've needed to get involved. Do you think that Boras has told the Yankees "sorry Cashman family, Mark Teixeira is only availble to the Angels, Red Sox, Nationals and Orioles. Your money is no good here" ?

 

Personally, when I heard Henry say he didn't think they were in the running I figured there was another team with a better offer on the table. The more time that goes on the less that seems to be the case. I was initially concerened that it was the Yankees, but if it were the Yankees I think he would be signed by now, or at least their offer would be made public.

 

Trying to think as if I was a Red Sox FO...with Youkilis, Pedroia, and Tex, you'd have a solid core of good hitters to transition you from the current regime of hitters. Barring injury, you've got a solid core for 5-6 years.

 

Obviously.

 

As the Angels, how can you expect to compete if you lose K-Rod, Garland, Anderson, and Teixeira in one off-season? Probably still win the AL West, but that's about it. You're pretty much the sacrificial lamb of the post-season.

 

K-Rod is a closer so he is easily overrated by fans who think he's the only person who can do the job. Garland's 4.90 ERA last year was as impressive as his 1.505 WHIP, Garret Anderson had a .758 OPS last year, and the Angels looked like one of the best teams in baseball without Teixeira last year. Now, granted, I think they could use a guy like Teixeira too, but that hasn't ever been the Angels' M.O.

 

For the Yankees, Tex is a perfect bridge the gap player. He's an elite hitter, and probably the best 1B since Mattingly. He transitions the team as the young players come up through the system, and the older ones are phased out. It seems foolish to go this far and be lacking punch in the lineup when the calendar turns to October.

 

He's also a great way to spend money, so he would be perfect for them in that regard as well.

 

So...there are different viewpoints, different agendas...I just think the Red Sox would have been better served giving him an ultimatum, and then backing off.

 

Maybe they did. Perhaps they said "take it or leave it by New Years", but if they want the player they can be patient and still get what they want.

 

Leaving the door open plays into Boras's hand, and he's the one who initiated contact with the Yankees.

 

Again, the Yankees aren't living on a desert island, unable to realize who is available on the FA market. Boras contacting the Yankees means nothing to anyone. If the Yankees sign Teixeira then it is because they wanted to sign Teixeira, not because Boras called and said there was bargain, going out of business sale going on and that the Yankees are his prefered customers.

 

I gotta like what the Angels "say" they've done. Moved on. That leaves Tex with one option if he wants to win...the Red Sox. The longer they wait, the better the chances he ends up in the Bronx.

 

Because the Bronx is where unwanted enormous contracts go to die? Sounds like a pretty scarry thing to me.

 

Are the Angels really out? I doubt it. That's why I take all this stuff with a grain of salt, and try as best as I can to put myself in the respective shoes of the person in question.

 

This is an objective view, not based on fandom, but rather logic.

 

Again, whatever. I sense a whole lot of fandom and whole lot of mastubatory glee when you talk about the Yankees ability to sign anyone they want to.