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Manny wont take that offer . he'll get a 100 mil deal elsewhere

 

$100m? Over how many years? Any hunch as to who'll offer that?

 

If someone gives him a 5 yr deal, you're talking about a 41 yr old player making $20m plus.

 

While I'm sure some team is going to pay huge $ for him, once again I don't see the value, certainly not in a $100m + contract. Regardless of what a great hitter he is, who's to say he won't quit on his new team, too?

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$100m? Over how many years? Any hunch as to who'll offer that?

 

If someone gives him a 5 yr deal, you're talking about a 41 yr old player making $20m plus.

 

While I'm sure some team is going to pay huge $ for him, once again I don't see the value, certainly not in a $100m + contract. Regardless of what a great hitter he is, who's to say he won't quit on his new team, too?

 

What a country lol

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While I'm sure some team is going to pay huge $ for him, once again I don't see the value, certainly not in a $100m + contract.

 

there's no current player out there who curently has a multi mil deal out there worth it

so whats your point?

like it or not Manny will be getting another 100 mil deal, if not he'll be pretty damn close

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there's no current player out there who curently has a multi mil deal out there worth it

so whats your point?

like it or not Manny will be getting another 100 mil deal, if not he'll be pretty damn close

 

My point...or points...were two-fold.

 

First, I was wondering who you thought would offer the $ you were suggesting he'll get and also I was asking you to clarify how many years you thought he'd get...you didn't answer.

 

Second, I was questioning the prudence...not the likelihood...of such a deal. IMO, offering Manny something like $22m per yr for 5 yrs is a mistake for any team. It's not a matter of me liking such a deal or not...I could not care less...just think that's a ridiculous use of resources that could be utilized in better ways.

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My point...or points...were two-fold.

 

First, I was wondering who you thought would offer the $ you were suggesting he'll get and also I was asking you to clarify how many years you thought he'd get...you didn't answer.

 

Second, I was questioning the prudence...not the likelihood...of such a deal. IMO, offering Manny something like $22m per yr for 5 yrs is a mistake for any team. It's not a matter of me liking such a deal or not...I could not care less...just think that's a ridiculous use of resources that could be utilized in better ways.

 

I think he'll get in the range of 4/90-100

 

the Yanks/Mets would pay that money to him

and I see the Dodgers raising their initial offer

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I think he'll get in the range of 4/90-100

 

the Yanks/Mets would pay that money to him

and I see the Dodgers raising their initial offer

 

The Mets already cried "foul" to signing Manny, but i see the Yanks and Dodgers butting heads over his services.

 

Wow, a 5yr/100 mil contract.......Hmmm.... it's getting a bit outta control with the contracts now isn't it?

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And when Manny is playing for the last place giants, hitting .290 with 10-48 at the break with 110 bbs while playing for 18M per year , he can look at Boras like Nomar looks at Arn Tellum...With complete and utter contempt..Everyone likes to say that Borass does whats best for his clients,ask tek how he made out,we can ask Manny next month how he made out...Hes slowly driving himself out of the league whether he knows it or not, when Boston Chicago's and La's dont want your players that gives you limited leverage,good thing the Fredo brothers run things in the Bronx or hed have some real trouble.
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I'd be surprised if he gets anything better than that dodgers offer

 

That's because the Dogers' offer is quite generous and he should take it or go play in Japan or something.

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And when Manny is playing for the last place giants' date=' hitting .290 with 10-48 at the break with 110 bbs while playing for 18M per year , he can look at Boras like Nomar looks at Arn Tellum...With complete and utter contempt..Everyone likes to say that Borass does whats best for his clients,ask tek how he made out,we can ask Manny next month how he made out...Hes slowly driving himself out of the league whether he knows it or not, when Boston Chicago's and La's dont want your players that gives you limited leverage,good thing the Fredo brothers run things in the Bronx or hed have some real trouble.[/quote']Nomar must have suffered several concussions from smacking himself in the head for turning down the 4 yr/$60 million from the Red Sox.

 

From the beginning, I felt that it was unlikely that Manny would get much beyond 3 yrs/ $60 million. I felt confident that he would get nothing approaching a $100 million deal. Also, the "crazy" factor becomes more meaningful as he becomes older and injury becomes an increased risk. I still fear that he will sign a very discounted deal with the Yankees. That will piss me off.

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I still fear that he will sign a very discounted deal with the Yankees. That will piss me off.

 

Me too. It seems inevitable, especially if he's willing to sign a short contract. What the hell else is he waiting for? Seems unlikely that he would be turning down 2 year deals unless he really wanted to play for another team...

 

I think he wants to be a Yankee, wants a multi year contract, and that the Yankees would be stupid not to offer it to him. Hell, if they're spending all this money to win now, just sign the future HOF and get it over with.

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I too see him landing in the Bronx...maybe a 3 yr deal well discounted from that which was projected by some earlier this offseason. 1 yr $25m was turned down...perhaps laying the ground work for a 3 yr. $17m per yr deal somewhere else? That'd be a steal in some respects, ignoring the fact that he's a douche.

 

Actually I'm kind of surprised the Mets don't jump in now although who knows if he's expressed that he doesn't want to go there...in fact who knows anything going on behind the scenes, this is Boras we're talking about, the weasel could be misleading FO's all over the place for all we know.

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I say Manny signs a 1 year deal worth $30 million from LAD and lands in the Bronx as their DH next season.

 

Sounds reasonable to me. It seems inevitable eventually.

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Nomar must have suffered several concussions from smacking himself in the head for turning down the 4 yr/$60 million from the Red Sox.

 

From the beginning, I felt that it was unlikely that Manny would get much beyond 3 yrs/ $60 million. I felt confident that he would get nothing approaching a $100 million deal. Also, the "crazy" factor becomes more meaningful as he becomes older and injury becomes an increased risk. I still fear that he will sign a very discounted deal with the Yankees. That will piss me off.

 

The Yankees are not allowed to sign anymore type A FA's(I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere). If he goes to NY, it will be with the Mets.

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The Yankees are not allowed to sign anymore type A FA's(I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere). If he goes to NY' date=' it will be with the Mets.[/quote']

 

That's been disproven...the Yankees CAN sign more type A and B free agents.

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That's been disproven...the Yankees CAN sign more type A and B free agents.

 

Ya I see that now. After my post's I read a couple newer articles stating that.

 

Oh well, if the Yanks give him the $ he wants, theres no telling which Manny they will get. If they sign him at a discount, there is a chance he turns into "whiny, spoiled Manny". I don't see anyone getting the "LA Manny". He was playing for a paycheck, and when he gets it I think you see him return to "run when I feel like it Manny".

 

 

There no way(IMO) he plays the rest of his career at the intensity he took to LA last season. And I think teams know that. Thats why there not giving him the guaranteed years, but giving him obtainable option years instead. They know if that carrot isn't dangling in front of him, theres no telling what they will get in return.

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I just don't see how he'd turn that down. He'd make great money now, and with it being 1 year, he can rake for that year and earn a bigger raise the following season. From what I've read there wouldn't be a great FA class next year, particularly in the corner OF market. Manny will take a little pay raise now in hopes that he'll have a great one after an "easy" season in the NL West.

 

But hey...sometimes $25 million just isn't enough. I'm hoping he makes less than his option amount from Boston...

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I just don't see how he'd turn that down. He'd make great money now, and with it being 1 year, he can rake for that year and earn a bigger raise the following season. From what I've read there wouldn't be a great FA class next year, particularly in the corner OF market. Manny will take a little pay raise now in hopes that he'll have a great one after an "easy" season in the NL West.

 

But hey...sometimes $25 million just isn't enough. I'm hoping he makes less than his option amount from Boston...

 

This would not allow Manny to return to his normal self. He would have to hustle all season and not be a pain in the ass, for him to get a long term deal the following year. Manny doesn't want to have to do that. He did his hustling already, now he wants his money so he can relax, and get back to Manny being Manny.

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