Julio Lugo Goes Off on the Media

[BoSox21]

When asked about what's up with all his errors this season, Julio Lugo apparently thought he plays in a city where ballplayers aren't held accountable for playing like s*** and had this outburst:

 

“I don’t care, but sometimes it would be nice to say something positive,” he said. “But all the time it’s negative things, you know? Sometimes, you know, people should say something that’s positive. But every time it’s something negative . . . bring it up, bring it up, bring it up. Why?

 

“I understand you (the media) are going to write whatever you want . . . but I come here every day and bust my ass . . . if things don’t work out sometimes, that’s the way it’s going to be. You understand? But sometimes you bring up the same things . . . You get tired of that.”

 

Julio Lugo lets it go - Steve Buckley, Boston Herald

[ksushi]

Poor guy. He must be under a whole lot of pressure making millions of dollars to suck at a kids game.

[ORS]

Poor, helpless Julio. At least he had the brains to refrain from a "Johnny at Burger King" comment, although I can't help but think that one of those are around the corner because he'll get an earful at his Fenway return, I'd imagine.

[arbitrary]

I honestly feel bad for the guys, even though they get paid millions, who do get s*** on all the time and are are mostly surrounded by negative comments, such as Lugo. I actually find it all a bit immature how wound up fans get about it. Of course fans love their teams and all, but grow up. Come to think of it, I tend to find the media generally dumb and annoying about everything else, so I guess I shouldn't expect anything different from their sports coverage.

[BoSox21]

I honestly feel bad for the guys' date=' even though they get paid millions, who do get s*** on are are mostly surrounded by negative comments such as Lugo. I actually find it all a bit immature. Of course fans love their teams and all, but grow up.[/quote']

 

f*** that, it comes with the job. He gets $8 million to play baseball for a living, I don't want to hear sob stories about how the media is so damn negative.

[arbitrary]

f*** that' date=' it comes with the job. He gets $8 million to play baseball for a living, I don't want to hear sob stories about how the media is so damn negative.[/quote']

 

I honestly don't care how much someone gets paid, I'm still going to be considerate. Of course the media will ask those questions, because theres a story there. And its up to the baseball player to respond however he wishes. But I can understand why Lugo is pissed.

[BoSox21]

honestly, I've seen the media be mainly positive towards the team during this run of 2 championships in 4 years and in terms of Lugo, he largely got a free pass for his atrocious first half offensively last year simply because the team got off to such a hot start but 10 errors in 33 games or whatever it is, and two 3-error games when the season isn't even a quarter over deserves to be questioned

[ksushi]

I am of the opinion that if you ever let baseball stress you out, you shouldnt play.

[BoSox21]

he needs to be a professional and keep repeating "I need to be better" in so many words until the media stops asking why he sucks defensively and then be thankful that his sorry ass isn't good enough to warrant being the first person the media goes to in the clubhouse after every game

 

if he had his way, the media would ask him his thoughts on getting the game winning "hit" in the Mother's Day Miracle over and over and over

[Jayhawk Bill]

If I ever get a job where the ratio of salary to IQ is as high as Julio Lugo's, I'm keeping the job even if it stresses me out.

[yeszir]

Welcome to Boston Julio?

[soxfan17881]

When I guy starts off a season with a lot of errors or a crappy BA, I do feel bad for him because I know that he wants to be doing well. Who doesn't, right? My sympathy ends at the point where he gets upset because the media asks questions about him sucking. Serve up some humble pie, Julio. You do make a crap load of money and you shouldn't have 10 errors. Of course the reporters are going to bug you about it. We're out here reading their s***, day after day and we want them to ask you about it!. When I'm watching that error in last night's game I'm thinking "What a dick!" and I want to know what you have to say for yourself. Not that you'll shed any real light on anything that really matters, but dealing with the press is the price you pay for blowing a game.

 

We (at least I) stand behind the players on our favorite team. But when you're lousy you're lousy and copping attitude isn't the way to go.

[SCM33]

I just think this is a classic example of wrong guy wrong team. Lets look at this logically. What was Theo thinking? Its easy to second guess now......but I mean, Cabrera was far superior offensively and defensively. As much as Renterria gets killed for his lone year here, he was a much better offensive player.....and at this point Lugo is on pace to shatter those 30 errors (10 in 33 games!). Alot of us did not like the move when he made it, but we thought maybe Theo knew something we didnt......but he didnt, and almost everyone knew this was a bad move from the get go.

 

I would much rather see a struggling Lowrie than Lugo, because I think Lowrie gives more defensively, and if he develops at all offensively, he has a chance to at least give what Lugo gave last year (.237, .294, .643), and that worked out well for us.

[Thumper]

Poor' date=' helpless Julio. At least he had the brains to refrain from a [b']"Johnny at Burger King"[/b] comment, although I can't help but think that one of those are around the corner because he'll get an earful at his Fenway return, I'd imagine.

 

That's the first thing that came to mind. s*** atleast Ted Williams would give back the middle finger but I doubt Lugo could get away with that today.

[CrespoBlows]

I just think this is a classic example of wrong guy wrong team. Lets look at this logically. What was Theo thinking? Its easy to second guess now......but I mean' date=' Cabrera was far superior offensively and defensively. As much as Renterria gets killed for his lone year here, he was a much better offensive player.....and at this point Lugo is on pace to shatter those 30 errors (10 in 33 games!). Alot of us did not like the move when he made it, but we thought maybe Theo knew something we didnt......but he didnt, and almost everyone knew this was a bad move from the get go.[/quote']

 

Flip flopper.

 

Lugo providing more offense we have gotten from the SS position since Nomar left.

 

Why was it a mistake letting Ocab go? He really isnt all that great. He did great here for 1 month.

 

Look at their career numbers....Lugo is better than Ocab in almost every important category based on a 162 game season.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lugoju01.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/cabreor01.shtml

 

Hindsight's 20/20, no?

[CrespoBlows]

That's the first thing that came to mind. s*** atleast Ted Williams would give back the middle finger but I doubt Lugo could get away with that today.

 

Really? What makes you go out on that limb?

[Thumper]

Really? What makes you go out on that limb?

 

If Lugo comes home to boo's and flips off Fenway, do you honestly think he'd make it out the park with his life or sanity?

[CrespoBlows]

http://www.lafferty.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/fail-24.jpg

[SCM33]

Flip flopper.

 

If you call that flip-flopping, that would suggest that I was once on Lugos side, so you would have to provide evidence of that. While I may not have been a big Cabrera guy, and I wasnt vocally sad to see him go, if you do a little research here....I bet you can find some posts of mine where I was a Renteria guy....

 

I have never been a Lugo guy, and you can search these forums all day long for that.

 

I think a statement that can be made about Lugo that is more appropriate is that the grass is not always greener on the other side. You cant really call people flip floppers over Lugo, because there werent very many people who agreed with the deal since day one.

[CrespoBlows]

If you call that flip-flopping, that would suggest that I was once on Lugos side, so you would have to provide evidence of that. While I may not have been a big Cabrera guy, and I wasnt vocally sad to see him go, if you do a little research here....I bet you can find some posts of mine where I was a Renteria guy....

 

I have never been a Lugo guy, and you can search these forums all day long for that.

 

I think a statement that can be made about Lugo that is more appropriate is that the grass is not always greener on the other side. You cant really call people flip floppers over Lugo, because there werent very many people who agreed with the deal since day one.

 

Your opinion of who was better than who seem to switch on a daily basis.

 

If you look at that first quote, you claim that Lugo was going to bring the offense we hadn't had out of the SS position since Nomar, also your backtracking of Orlando Cabrera's offensive abilities.

[yeszir]

If Lugo comes home to boo's and flips off Fenway' date=' do you honestly think he'd make it out the park with his life or sanity?[/quote']

BK Kim did

[SCM33]

Your opinion of who was better than who seem to switch on a daily basis.

 

If you look at that first quote, you claim that Lugo was going to bring the offense we hadn't had out of the SS position since Nomar, also your backtracking of Orlando Cabrera's offensive abilities.

 

I didnt mention Nomar once.

 

I said that both were better offensively than Lugo. I never once said Lugo will provide more than any of them.

 

I didnt backtrack on Cabrera either. I said he was better than Lugo both offensively and defensively. I said I was not a Cabrera guy.....how you got your opinion of what I meant, I dont know.

 

I said I was a Renteria guy......again, do a little research on these boards, and that will back it up.

 

My opinion of them does not switch on a daily basis. Ill restate what Ive thought all along:

 

I never once mentioned Nomar......ever. I really have no clue where you got this.

 

I have never been a Lugo supporter.

 

I would much rather have had Renteria or Ocab.

 

I was not sad to see Ocab go.....although, like my grass is not greener on the other side statement would indicate, either of the two would be preferred today. I appreciate now what those two brought to the table. They were both very good players. I am not backtracking on Ocab, I thought he was a good player....I just thought Renteria would be better, and it did not turn out for the best.

 

Go back through the old threads man. If you can find anywhere where I said that Lugo would provide the offense missing since Nomar (and again, I have NEVER brought up his name) I will admit I am wrong.

[SCM33]

BK Kim did

 

Yeah, that worked out for him haha. Too bad too, he put up some really good numbers before Boston, and fell off the map since.

[Thumper]

BK Kim did

 

Yeah, and where is he now? He got released by the damn Pirates... Which I guess injury plays the more important role instead of Karma...

 

Anyway, I know Lugo won't get killed, literally if he were to give off the middle finger, but I don't think it would help him in anyway. If he's already pissed at what the media will say, look at what they'll do to him if he gives up the middle finger. They'd rip him a new one. And if he's saying that all this negativety doesn't help, then I'm sure flipping off the fans won't be an improvement. Atleast mentally.

[CrespoBlows]

Dude, who the f*** even brought up the middle finger?

 

Are you just trying to fit Ted Williams into this topic?

[Thumper]

Dude, who the f*** even brought up the middle finger?

 

Are you just trying to fit Ted Williams into this topic?

 

Oh yeah, you got me there...

 

No I was merely answering someone who had mentioned about Lugo may come back from Detroit to a booing crowd at Fenway, all pissed at him. Then I thought about how Williams was booed and didn't give a s*** and gave it right back. So I decided to start up a discussion, excuse me for trying to provoke thought and conversation. Sorry I don't level up to your standards.

[CrespoBlows]

I didnt mention Nomar once.

 

Lugo providing more offense we have gotten from the SS position since Nomar left.

 

I said that both were better offensively than Lugo. I never once said Lugo will provide more than any of them.

 

 

I didnt backtrack on Cabrera either. I said he was better than Lugo both offensively and defensively. I said I was not a Cabrera guy.....how you got your opinion of what I meant, I dont know.

 

Look at their career numbers....Lugo is better than Ocab in almost every important category based on a 162 game season.

 

 

 

I said I was a Renteria guy......again, do a little research on these boards, and that will back it up.

 

What the f*** do I care about Renteria? I never brought it up. I'm just tired of you always pulling this s***.

 

SCM (2006) - Way to go Theo! :thumbup: Lugo is an offensive upgrade over Cabrera, and will bring numbers at the position we haven't seen since Nomar.

 

SCM (2008) - Way to go Theo! :thumbdown Lugo sucks, and I have always known this. Look at the numbers, Lugo is worse then Cabrera at every stat.

 

I never once mentioned Nomar......ever. I really have no clue where you got this.

 

Liar

 

I have never been a Lugo supporter.

 

No one accused you of this.

 

I would much rather have had Renteria or Ocab.

 

Except when Lugo is the better hitter, and you provide the BR.com links.

 

 

Go back through the old threads man. If you can find anywhere where I said that Lugo would provide the offense missing since Nomar (and again, I have NEVER brought up his name) I will admit I am wrong.

 

I did, the evidence is right in front of you, you just won't acknowledge it.

[SCM33]

Crespo...

on 06/07/06 I actually said this about Renteria:

"I think the bigger mistake was the Renterria blunder. First of all, offensively he had a pretty solid season, defensively he was a mess, but from all indications of his career numbers and post-redsox numbers...those 30 errors were a fluke. Had Renterria been given another year he may have hit even better and im sure his D would have improved."

 

Again, I said this on the same date, when SOMEONE ELSE claimed him to provide offense similar to Nomar:

"The next Nomar? Where the hell did you dig that up, or did you just fabricate it?"

 

On 6/14/07, I had this to say about Lugo:

"I say we have to stick with him. Hes absolutely awful......but we seriously need some stability at the SS position. I dont want to get rid of another, then the following year say once again..."man we shoulda just kept lugo" just like i did with ocab, renteria, and now agon. His track record shows he will come out of it.....and we are the best team in baseball.....lets just stick with him a little longer and hopefully we are rewarded like the way we have been with Drew and Pedroia and Crisp lately. All 3 were pretty terrible at some point, and have all turned it around."

 

On 08/07/2007 I had this to say about Renteria:

"....that, or the fact that the guy almost has 2000 career hits and is only 31 years old. Or the fact that he is a very good defensive SS save for his season in Boston. Maybe its the fact that hes a very good baserunner. It could also be the fact that his career OBP is .001 shy of .350.

 

He had a bad year. I would love to see him still in Boston. he averages 161 hits a year and 70+ Rbi.

 

I take him any day of the week over Ocab or Lugo."

 

On 08/07/2007 I had this to say about Renteria and Lugo:

"Definately.....and we all thought we were giving Renteria wayyyyyy too much money, only to give Lugo assloads to hit .220 all while Agon had a solid offensive year."

 

Looks pretty consistent to me.

[CrespoBlows]

Oh yeah, you got me there...

 

No I was merely answering someone who had mentioned about Lugo may come back from Detroit to a booing crowd at Fenway, all pissed at him. Then I thought about how Williams was booed and didn't give a s*** and gave it right back. So I decided to start up a discussion, excuse me for trying to provoke thought and conversation. Sorry I don't level up to your standards.

 

No, but you do meet the standards of RtT, adam123, castigs, and TW101. Right up their alley.

[CrespoBlows]

Crespo...

on 06/07/06 I actually said this about Renteria:

"I think the bigger mistake was the Renterria blunder. First of all, offensively he had a pretty solid season, defensively he was a mess, but from all indications of his career numbers and post-redsox numbers...those 30 errors were a fluke. Had Renterria been given another year he may have hit even better and im sure his D would have improved."

 

Again, I said this on the same date, when SOMEONE ELSE claimed him to provide offense similar to Nomar:

"The next Nomar? Where the hell did you dig that up, or did you just fabricate it?"

 

On 6/14/07, I had this to say about Lugo:

"I say we have to stick with him. Hes absolutely awful......but we seriously need some stability at the SS position. I dont want to get rid of another, then the following year say once again..."man we shoulda just kept lugo" just like i did with ocab, renteria, and now agon. His track record shows he will come out of it.....and we are the best team in baseball.....lets just stick with him a little longer and hopefully we are rewarded like the way we have been with Drew and Pedroia and Crisp lately. All 3 were pretty terrible at some point, and have all turned it around."

 

On 08/07/2007 I had this to say about Renteria:

"....that, or the fact that the guy almost has 2000 career hits and is only 31 years old. Or the fact that he is a very good defensive SS save for his season in Boston. Maybe its the fact that hes a very good baserunner. It could also be the fact that his career OBP is .001 shy of .350.

 

He had a bad year. I would love to see him still in Boston. he averages 161 hits a year and 70+ Rbi.

 

I take him any day of the week over Ocab or Lugo."

 

On 08/07/2007 I had this to say about Renteria and Lugo:

"Definately.....and we all thought we were giving Renteria wayyyyyy too much money, only to give Lugo assloads to hit .220 all while Agon had a solid offensive year."

 

Looks pretty consistent to me.

 

Nice try.

 

Nowhere do you address the fact that you stated that Lugo was an upgrade over Cabrera, but now you've always thought that Cabrera was the better option. You continue to drive the Renteria point home, when I didn't even bring him up.

 

http://www.talksox.com/forum/talk-sox/7843-drew-board-4.html#post210315

 

(BTW, your Nomar point is in there.)

 

 

 

Please stop lying. It gives people cancer.