Ellsbury on board with Boras

[mtbykr]

Just saw this:

 

Ellsbury signs on with Scott Boras

From ESPN's Jerry Crasnick: "Scott Boras has apparently recovered from the sting of losing longtime client Kenny Rogers. According to two sources at the winter meetings, Red Sox outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury has dropped agent Joe Urbon and is now represented by Boras."

[mtbykr]

Who knows, maybe the twins become reluctant to acquire Ellsbury now knowing he is with Boras.

[mosox]

I hope Boras gets 1%.

[BoSox21]

I guess this just adds to the Johnny Damon comparisons

[yeszir]

Why Jacoby, WHY!?

[He Hate Me]

I think the Sox should ask to include Ellsbury in the Lester package and take back all the other prospects

[Jayhawk Bill]

So Ellsbury now has the same agent as JD Drew, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Julian Tavarez, Craig Hansen, and Jason Varitek. I don't see an issue: Theo and the FO do business pretty well with Scott Boras when they want to.

 

As for Jacoby, it sounds as if he's made a good move. Boras makes his clients rich men.

[Johnny_RedSox]

So Ellsbury now has the same agent as JD Drew, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Julian Tavarez, Craig Hansen, and Jason Varitek. I don't see an issue: Theo and the FO do business pretty well with Scott Boras when they want to.

 

As for Jacoby, it sounds as if he's made a good move. Boras makes his clients rich men.

 

I wonder how much Boras makes a year

[Taliesin]

I wonder how much Boras makes a year

 

Is it coming out of your pocket? Last time I checked we were operating under the premise we live in a capitalist society. Atlas is still shrugging. I'm sure they play baseball in Cuba...they keep jumping on those boats however. You want to leap on the boat the other way? This argument is tiresome. Yes...Virginia...people make money and you can thank the capitalist John Henry for the successes of your baseball team. Worst thing you can do is punish the successful people for their success.

[a700hitter]

I like that John Henry. He looks like a mild-mannered wimp, but to become such a rich man in his line of work he had to be a cut-throat tough SOB. He brought that mentality to baseball. When the team flopped in 2006, he made it known that he wanted Theo and crew to aggressively improve the team. When we lost in 2003, he loosened the purse strings and we got Schilling and Foulke. Red Sox fans owe JH a debt of gratitude.

[rician blast]

Red Sox fans owe JH a debt of gratitude.

 

I'd respectfully disagree. Fans never OWE the owners anything and it's the other way around, IMO, provided that a team's fans are supporting their team as strongly as Red Sox fans do.

[TheKilo]

I'd respectfully disagree. Fans never OWE the owners anything and it's the other way around' date=' IMO, provided that a team's fans are supporting their team as strongly as Red Sox fans do.[/quote']

 

How would you like to have Jeffrey Loria as your owner?

 

Tom Hicks?

[a700hitter]

I'd respectfully disagree. Fans never OWE the owners anything and it's the other way around' date=' IMO, provided that a team's fans are supporting their team as strongly as Red Sox fans do.[/quote']I see your point, but I'd lived through the decades after Tom Yawkey died and one set of cheapskate lying incompetent owners fleeced the fans for their hard - earned money while fielding an inferior product.

[Behind the Bag]

Looks like the Boras effect is already in full effect--Ellsbury is charging $150 for an autographed item that you bring. Unbelievable. I was dead set against trading him for Santana, but this one story has changed everything for me. It is a total insult and stinks of arrogance and stupidity, so see ya, Jacoby. Have fun sticking it to the fans in Minnesotta. :thumbdown

[TheKilo]

Looks like the Boras effect is already in full effect--Ellsbury is charging $150 for an autographed item that you bring. Unbelievable. I was dead set against trading him for Santana' date=' but this one story has changed everything for me. It is a total insult and stinks of arrogance and stupidity, so see ya, Jacoby. Have fun sticking it to the fans in Minnesotta. :thumbdown[/quote']

 

HOW DARE HE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A CAPITALIST SOCIETY.

[Behind the Bag]

HOW DARE HE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A CAPITALIST SOCIETY.

 

 

Yeah, maybe all the Red Sox should start charging $150 for an autograph. It's all about the money, right?

[TheKilo]

Yeah' date=' maybe all the Red Sox should start charging $150 for an autograph. It's all about the money, right?[/quote']

 

Look, I'm not going to get into a huge economic discussion with you about the salary structure of MLB baseball players, but simple supply and demand says that a Jacoby Ellsbury autograph is probably worth about $150 now, not because he's a great player or anything (although he is), it's because people are willing to pay that much. Don't want his autograph for $150? Don't buy it. There's plenty of other people who obviously do.

 

As someone wise once said, don't hate the player, hate the game.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

Yeah' date=' maybe all the Red Sox should start charging $150 for an autograph. It's all about the money, right?[/quote']

 

Do you have a work email address? You probably check that email address several times a day, right? 20, maybe 30 times? I know I do...I'm constantly hitting refresh whenever I think of it. Now, imagine someone offers to pay you $150 every time you check your email. Are you going to decline it? Of course you're not. Checking your email is as much a part of your job as signing autographs is a part of Jacoby's.

 

Plus the fact...I'm too lazy to go back and read into where you got your facts...but I'd venture to say Jacoby was charging $150 for an autograph at a baseball card show or something of the sort. I do a lot of the booking for a company that sponsors signings here in Syracuse, and the vast majority of the players have absolutely, positively no say at all in how much is charged for their autograph. Most of these guys charge an appearance fee, and what the store or car dealership or mall or whatever that is paying that appearance fee elect to do with his time while he's there, that's up to them. You're making it sound like Jacoby is walking up and down the walls at Fenway with an old-school credit card swiping machine. Not the case. A player getting money to sign autographs at an appearance is no different than you getting paid time and a half to work an overtime shift.

 

Whomever it is charging the $150 for the autograph is as smart as the person paying the $150 for the autograph is stupid. It's an inverse relationship.

[Behind the Bag]

Do you have a work email address? You probably check that email address several times a day, right? 20, maybe 30 times? I know I do...I'm constantly hitting refresh whenever I think of it. Now, imagine someone offers to pay you $150 every time you check your email. Are you going to decline it? Of course you're not. Checking your email is as much a part of your job as signing autographs is a part of Jacoby's.

 

Plus the fact...I'm too lazy to go back and read into where you got your facts...but I'd venture to say Jacoby was charging $150 for an autograph at a baseball card show or something of the sort. I do a lot of the booking for a company that sponsors signings here in Syracuse, and the vast majority of the players have absolutely, positively no say at all in how much is charged for their autograph. Most of these guys charge an appearance fee, and what the store or car dealership or mall or whatever that is paying that appearance fee elect to do with his time while he's there, that's up to them. You're making it sound like Jacoby is walking up and down the walls at Fenway with an old-school credit card swiping machine. Not the case. A player getting money to sign autographs at an appearance is no different than you getting paid time and a half to work an overtime shift.

 

Whomever it is charging the $150 for the autograph is as smart as the person paying the $150 for the autograph is stupid. It's an inverse relationship.

 

The last bit is on the mark--an inverse relationship. But what my point is, and I think many would agree with me, is that in a day and age when ballplayers make in one game as much as many of us make in a year, charging ANY money for an autograph is an insult. They are already enjoying the fruits of capitalism to a degree beyond our imagination. And that's fine. But there is a threshold of common decency that is crossed when players engage in this kind of money-grubbing. It just comes off as extremely greedy. That's my basic point. I'm not suggesting they should be denied the right to do it, or for a fan to cough up the money for a scribble or two, if they want to blow their cash on something like that. Now, if they defreeze Ted Williams and he shows up at the Burlington Mall, I'll be first in line. Otherwise, any money I spend on the Red Sox will be on tickets or caps. Good night....

[ORS]

Are you not familiar with how these things work? Collectables merchants approach the players and offer them $25K, $50K, $75K, etc to make a signing appearance for a prescribed amount of time. Are they supposed to turn that down? Remember, while many of them make more money than any of us will ever see in our lifetimes, scores more flash in the pan and are left to fend for themselves after their draft signing bonuses, league min salary, and appearance fees are extinguished. Ellsbury looks like he's in line to make big bucks in the future, but there's no guarantee. So, he should make every penny he can while he's earning the minimum to create some security for himself should he get injured and not be able to play ever again.

 

If there's anyone to be upset at, it's the people willing to pay this, IMO. There's no market for it without idiots who scramble to pay insane amounts of money for something as worthless as a signature, or a used jockstrap, or toothbrush, or some other inane meaningless object.