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Plus side for the Yankees is that they will keep really the best hitter of this generation with them for 8 more years. Over the next 8 years he will be making $177 million' date=' thats more than any other team's payroll[/quote']

 

I wouldn't talk like they're definitely going to accept.

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I wouldn't talk like they're definitely going to accept.

I agree. If anything, that just confirms the market is there. If that's the offer, the 3/81 now and 5/150 for a total of 8/231, I'll guarantee you Boras is thinking, "I'll bet I could get someone to go 8/248" or something like that.

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I wouldn't talk like they're definitely going to accept.

 

While there are reasons he might not accept, its kind of disgusting that his contract will be more than any team in baseball's payroll, and he may not accept it.

And they haven't gotten done since he got to NY, although he has in the regular season.

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I agree. If anything' date=' that just confirms the market is there. If that's the offer, the 3/81 now and 5/150 for a total of 8/231, I'll guarantee you Boras is thinking, "I'll bet I could get someone to go 8/248" or something like that.[/quote']

 

not exactly. I do not think Cashman is bluffing when he says that he will not negotiate if he opts out. Therefore, can you absolutely say that Boras can get a 8/231 deal elsewhere without the yankees bidding? I dont think so. The Yankees are putting the pressure on publicly. They are publicly showing how much they are willing to offer. Essentially, they arent letting Boras pull his typical bid against yourself s*** when everyone and their mother will know what he is turning down. If the deal is truly 8yrs 231 mil, I really have a hard time thinking he can get that without the yankees in the picture.

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I agree. If anything' date=' that just confirms the market is there. If that's the offer, the 3/81 now and 5/150 for a total of 8/231, I'll guarantee you Boras is thinking, "I'll bet I could get someone to go 8/248" or something like that.[/quote']

Well, if the Yankees are out of the market as they say they will be, I don't think anyone else will.

 

Let's face it. With the influx of young talent, the best two teams in baseball over the next few years are the Red Sox and the Yankees. No other team can offer a player the opportunity of constant post-season attempts as those two teams. With Buchholz, Ellsbury, Lester, Papelbon and a young Beckett, a great nucleus moving forward. Same with the Yankees with Cano, Wang, Cabrera, Hughes, Kennedy, and Chamberlain. Both teams have prime players coming up this coming season or next.

 

Also, not many teams can absorb his salary without cutting talent elsewhere due to payroll concerns. Both the Yankees [easily] and the Sox [a little more creativity involved] can absorb his salary. No other teams really can.

 

Arod has the love of the fans now, the stage, and the money. Boras is taking a huge risk with his client if he opts out. In endorsement money alone, he will lose more than he could make in any other market, even Boston.

 

He has the option of post-season every year, almost guaranteed, the most famous ballclub in baseball history, and a boatload of money. He had the love in Seattle, and a great club, but not the money. He had the money and the love of the fans, but not the ballclub. He has everything here.

 

I can't see how it makes sense for him to go, or another team to match it. Once you take the Yankee dollars out, can you really see another team offering 30 million? I can't.

 

Arod had the best year of his career. Don't forget that he hit 290 with 35 homers a year ago. That isn't worth 30 million. He won't be in his mid-late 20's again where he can facilitate a trade to a contender like he did from Texas. Can you imagine if he signs with the Giants, and they are 10 games out of first two years from now? You think anyone will trade for him at that point?

 

Remember, the Reds tried to trade Griffey for Phil Nevin, and were turned down because of salary.

 

I hope he stays. However, to be honest, the money is better spent in other ways. We can afford to overpay him. Not many teams can and give him, year in and year out, a better chance for a ring than the Yankees.

 

Just my two cents.

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I don't think you can throw comments like, "Nobody else will pay that much", around. His 10/250 contract (and Manny's 8/160) came at a time when revenues were approximately $3B annually. They are $6B now. We saw an upswing last offseason after a flat period in player salary. We could be in line for another spike.
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Soiano didnt even get 20 mil a season. We are talking about a player who is older than Sori was and for 12 mil more a season. Do you seriously think that Soriano + a 12mil player is not a little overboard for ARod.

 

Also, consider those teams that went out and spent. SF, Chicago from last yr. ANA, BOS, NYY, NYM, and CWS from yrs past. Who else has 30+ mil a season to dedicate to one player? Thats about it. And who do we know has the history to go over and above. The Yankees, of course. Cashman has essentially removed the yankees from consideration if he opts out. Therefore, without the team that continually goes over and beyond other offers, dont you think he could get considerably less? Plus, ARod's first deal was made by an idiot who hamstrung his team on this one contract. Dont you think other teams in a similar situation would recognize that? I dont think the Tom Hicks' of the world will continue to make these kinds of mistakes.

 

I will put it right down, right now. If ARod opts out, he will not make more than 30 mil per season AAV over the life of his contract. He wont.

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I will put it right down, right now. If ARod opts out, he will not make more than 30 mil per season AAV over the life of his contract. He wont.

You may be right, but let's not forget that ARod was willing to take less money to get out of Texas. We have no idea what his opinion is about playing in NY. He says he likes it. He always says all the right things. He said the right things in Texas, and he even went along with the charade of being named captain after the Red Sox deal fell through. Maybe he doesn't like 24/7 media coverage. It must be a lot of pressure acting like a phony every minute of every day. San Francisco needs a star now that they have parted ways with the despicable Barry Bonds. ARod would thrive in that low pressure atmosphere.
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You may be right' date=' but let's not forget that ARod was willing to take less money to get out of Texas. We have no idea what his opinion is about playing in NY. He says he likes it. He always says all the right things. He said the right things in Texas, and he even went along with the charade of being named captain after the Red Sox deal fell through. Maybe he doesn't like 24/7 media coverage. It must be a lot of pressure acting like a phony every minute of every day. San Francisco needs a star now that they have parted ways with the despicable Barry Bonds. ARod would thrive in that low pressure atmosphere.[/quote']

 

If his true intention is to opt out, then why is there this dog an pony show about his opting out and wanting X amount of dollars and whathaveyou. The Yankees made a hard and firm stance. If he opts out, he is done in NY. If he didnt have any desire to be a yankee, this cat and mouse game wouldnt be going on right now.

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If his true intention is to opt out' date=' then why is there this dog an pony show about his opting out and wanting X amount of dollars and whathaveyou. The Yankees made a hard and firm stance. If he opts out, he is done in NY. If he didnt have any desire to be a yankee, this cat and mouse game wouldnt be going on right now.[/quote']Because Boras never tips his hand. If the Yankees come up with $50 million more than anyone else, he'll stay no matter how much he hates it. Boras probably has a pretty good idea of the market outside of NY. He is driving up the price in NY to see if they make an offer that he cannot refuse. If the money is equal or a little bit above what he can get elsewhere, he'll go elsewhere.

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