Alex Rodriguez

[example1]

Thats very true. SOTKs sorry but im one of those people. Yes A-Rod is having a monster year but his team is losing and we all seem to forget in July about October. I do not want someone who is going to fall apart during the playoffs. Its usless. Use the money on suring up the bullpen and another starter. You can never have to much pitching. A-Rod is also not a typical Red Sox player' date=' he wouldnt fit in, in the clubhouse with all the garbage that comes along with him and his attitude.[/quote']

 

The playoffs are too short to use them as a reliable sample size. I see no reason to think that A-Rod is metaphysically predestined to suck in the playoffs, just like I see nothing from the heavens dictating whether or not Papi hits a home run in the bottom of the 9th.

[CrespoBlows]

The playoffs are too short to use them as a reliable sample size. I see no reason to think that A-Rod is metaphysically predestined to suck in the playoffs' date=' just like I see nothing from the heavens dictating whether or not Papi hits a home run in the bottom of the 9th.[/quote']

 

Bingo.

[Cityofchampions33]

Well according to Crespoblows there's no chance whatsoever that this will happen, so we might as well just stop daydreaming.

[CrespoBlows]

Well according to Crespoblows there's no chance whatsoever that this will happen' date=' so we might as well just stop daydreaming.[/quote']

 

This is the first intelligent thing I have ever heard you say.

 

Way to go.

[Cityofchampions33]

This is the first intelligent thing I have ever heard you say.

 

Way to go.

 

What can I say? I guess your illogical and arrogant statements rubbed off on me.

[CrespoBlows]

What can I say? I guess your illogical and arrogant statements rubbed off on me.

 

I'll make this quote true.

 

o rite i def belive taht arod wil not sighn wit teh yaks cuz cashman says hes not givin ne more mone out lok so did joel sherman

[Cityofchampions33]

Those retard posts are really getting old, stop using them in every thread. Whatever, I won't ruin this thread anymore as I can see that you still haven't gotten it into your head what point I was trying to make with the Joel Sherman quote.

[CrespoBlows]

Those retard posts are really getting old' date=' stop using them in every thread. Whatever, I won't ruin this thread anymore as I can see that you still haven't gotten it into your head what point I was trying to make with the Joel Sherman quote.[/quote']

 

What was the point you were trying to make? That some "official" from the Yankees organization, knows exactly what Rodriguez is going to do?

 

I know you want Rodriguez to sign with the Red Sox, but you're letting it blind you to logic. The Yankees have a $30 million subsidy from the Rangers, they have the most money to give to Rodriguez, and they're the only team that's going to allow a single player to absorb a great portion of their total payroll.

[Cityofchampions33]

What was the point you were trying to make? That some "official" from the Yankees organization, knows exactly what Rodriguez is going to do?

 

I know you want Rodriguez to sign with the Red Sox, but you're letting it blind you to logic. The Yankees have a $30 million subsidy from the Rangers, they have the most money to give to Rodriguez, and they're the only team that's going to allow a single player to absorb a great portion of their total payroll.

 

When did I EVER say that that fact alone meant A-Rod was going to sign with the Red Sox? When did I ever say what that Yankee offical said was the future of A-Rod's actions? I say how exciting it would be to have A-Rod on this team and you just bluntly post "Not gunna happen". Just like that, and so the point I was trying to make was that there was some, though I agree it is minimal, of a chance that he would opt out.

You're probably right, A-Rod is probably not going to sign with the Sox, but there's no need to make posts that just plainly say 'Not gunna happen".

[CrespoBlows]

When did I EVER say that that fact alone meant A-Rod was going to sign with the Red Sox? When did I ever say what that Yankee offical said was the future of A-Rod's actions? I say how exciting it would be to have A-Rod on this team and you just bluntly post "Not gunna happen". Just like that, and so the point I was trying to make was that there was some, though I agree it is minimal, of a chance that he would opt out.

You're probably right, A-Rod is probably not going to sign with the Sox, but there's no need to make posts that just plainly say 'Not gunna happen".

 

You know, I would buy this, if you said something like, "You're probably right, but I think it would be cool to see A-Rod in a Sox uniform."

 

Instead, you tried to prove me wrong, claiming that Joel Sherman was a deity of baseball knowledge, and Brian Cashman would not give A-Rod anymore money.

[See Red]

The playoffs are too short to use them as a reliable sample size. I see no reason to think that A-Rod is metaphysically predestined to suck in the playoffs' date=' just like I see nothing from the heavens dictating whether or not Papi hits a home run in the bottom of the 9th.[/quote']

 

Success in sports has a lot to do with the mental aspect. It's not something from the heavens... it's more than likely Papi telling himself that if he grounds out to second, it's not that big of a deal -- and him believing, and knowing, that that's the case. That there will be other games and that it is just a game. Some athletes press a little harder in big spots, and that's why they fail. You don't think that's the case with A-Rod? He's obviously a sensitive guy and he cares what people think about him. I think he's kind of shed that this year, though. He was able to get some things that bothered him off of his chest -- hell, Sheff knows A-Rod better than we do and he said he was going to have a monster year because of it.

[schillingouttheks]

The playoffs are too short to use them as a reliable sample size. I see no reason to think that A-Rod is metaphysically predestined to suck in the playoffs' date=' just like I see nothing from the heavens dictating whether or not Papi hits a home run in the bottom of the 9th.[/quote']

 

Thank you for letting me save my breath.

 

I'm praying to God that A-Rod opts out because it's a matter of time before he comes around and starts pounding the ball in the playoffs. That's a bat that anyone would love to have in the postseason. I'd be willing to bet lots of money on the assessment that A-Rod will eventually come around in the playoffs and knock the cover off of the ball. The difference between the people who want Rodriguez here and the ones that don't is that the former wants it to happen in Boston and the latter wants it to happen in New York or elsewhere. I'll take it here, thanks very much.

[Cityofchampions33]

You know, I would buy this, if you said something like, "You're probably right, but I think it would be cool to see A-Rod in a Sox uniform."

 

Instead, you tried to prove me wrong, claiming that Joel Sherman was a deity of baseball knowledge, and Brian Cashman would not give A-Rod anymore money.

 

Yeah, because you simply wrote it off as if it had absolutely no shot in hell. I'm sorry if I tried to prove you wrong, at the time you were being an ass.

[example1]

Success in sports has a lot to do with the mental aspect. It's not something from the heavens... it's more than likely Papi telling himself that if he grounds out to second' date=' it's not that big of a deal -- and him believing, and knowing, that that's the case. That there will be other games and that it [i']is[/i] just a game. Some athletes press a little harder in big spots, and that's why they fail. You don't think that's the case with A-Rod? He's obviously a sensitive guy and he cares what people think about him. I think he's kind of shed that this year, though. He was able to get some things that bothered him off of his chest -- hell, Sheff knows A-Rod better than we do and he said he was going to have a monster year because of it.

 

I agree that there is a mental aspect to the game. A-Rod clearly isn't held back by it, or if he is then you should be asking yourself what type of player he would be if he were mentally stable, given that he is on track to become possibly the best player in baseball history.

 

Hitting is a reaction and a habit. You have 4/10ths of a second to decide what to do. A-Rod is more than capable of using that time effectively, again, evidenced by his past success. For example, If this were the only season we had seen him, it would be VERY easy to decide that David Ortiz is a patently UNclutch performer. In the past few weeks alone I've seen time after time where he doesn't "come through".

 

In Manny's last 5 playoff series he has hit .300, .412, .300, .385., .310. from the NYY series in 2003 to now. I'm pretty sure he is near the top in playoff HRs, RBIs, etc., in history. Before that, he was pretty bad and known as NOT being clutch. He hit a HR off of Barry Zito in the 5th game (I believe) of the ALDS, and watched it leave the yard, which pissed off the announcers. The reason I remember that is that they had just been talking about what a great hitter he is but how he just couldn't get it done in the clutch of the playoffs. It's BS. Some guys will happen to hit right away in their playoff career and become known as 'clutch', others take a little while to get to their average performance.

 

Manny has played in a total of 81 playoff games.

A-Rod has played a total of 35 playoff games.

 

He is more than equipped to hit 4 HR in a playoff game just like he is equiped to do that in a regular season game. The dude is a baller.

 

Regardless, though, I don't think he's coming to Boston. I think the Sox will use that as a smokescreen while they make a better deal elsewhere. You can't get a player who is better than A-Rod, but with 30 million dollars you could have Roy Oswalt, Josh Beckett and Carlos Beltran. The Yankees will overpay out of fear that the Sox will blow them out of the water again, A-Rod may or may not take it. Personally, I see A-Rod as a Cub, the pride of Mark Cuban's franchise; they will have a chummy relationship.

[CrespoBlows]

Rodriguez has had success in the postseason, before. I don't understand when a player in a major market has a few bad series, people automatically chalk it up to the guy not being clutch, or can't handle the pressure.

 

Look at all these players, these guys are celebrated for being "clutch," but they've all been through a Rodriguez' like slide. It happens.

 

C Yogi Berra, 47WS-50WS ... 14 G, .140/.204/.260, 6 R, 2 HR, 5 RBI, 0.64 RC/G

1B Jeff Bagwell, 97NLDS-99NLDS ... 11 G, .128/.261/.128, 3 R, 0 HR, 4 RBI, 0.64 RC/G

2B Jackie Robinson, 47WS-52WS ... 19 G, .212/.342/.303, 9 R, 1 HR, 7 RBI, 0.79 RC/G

SS Derek Jeter**, 01ALDS-01WS ... 17 G, .226/.262/.290, 5 R, 1 HR, 4 RBI, 0.47 RC/G

3B Mike Schmidt, 77NLCS-80NLCS ... 13 G, .164/.233/.218, 4 R, 0 HR, 3 RBI, 0.54 RC/G

OF Babe Ruth, 18WS-22WS ... 14 G, .211/.333/.368, 4 R, 1 HR, 7 RBI, 0.71 RC/G

OF Mickey Mantle, 61WS-63WS ... 13 G, .130/.216/.217, 3 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 0.23 RC/G

OF Ted Williams***, 46WS ... 7 G, .200/.333/.200, 2 R, 0 HR, 1 RBI, 0.43 RC/G

DH David Ortiz, 02ALDS-03ALDS ... 14 G, .200/.231/.280, 0 R, 0 HR, 6 RBI, 0.43 RC/G

[Cocos Disciples]

Get Rod. Do it.

[mike lol]

A-rod to the red sox? just came.

[Teddyballgame10]

 

Regardless, though, I don't think he's coming to Boston. I think the Sox will use that as a smokescreen while they make a better deal elsewhere. You can't get a player who is better than A-Rod, but with 30 million dollars you could have Roy Oswalt, Josh Beckett and Carlos Beltran. The Yankees will overpay out of fear that the Sox will blow them out of the water again, A-Rod may or may not take it. Personally, I see A-Rod as a Cub, the pride of Mark Cuban's franchise; they will have a chummy relationship.

 

 

Well said, use the money elsewhere, this could (or will be for whoever gets him) a contract that cripples a teams payroll and leaves major holes in the team.

[BSN07]

Not sure how I feel about this. I like AROD, hes a great player but that much money? I'm not sure.

 

One side of the argument is, Losing Schilling, Lowell, Hinske, Clement is about 35M off the books right there. They can fill in the rotation spot with a cheap veteran or with Lester/Buchholz(also very cheap) That means the SP rotation(if they stay healthy) is set for the next 3 or 4 seasons, maybe longer. Youk,Pedroia, Lugo, Drew Crisp, Ellsbury, Papelbon,Okijihma,Delcarmen, Papi are all signed long term( 3+ yrs). So in all honesty theres not alot we have to replace over the next few yrs except the typical crap we throw together in the BP and bench players. Add in the fact that if we get AROD this means Manny will be traded or they will kepp him for next season and most likely no pich up his options. So theres another 20M gone after next season. In theory, they could decline manny's options and sign him to a new deal possibly for less, but who knows.

 

So money wise the Sox could sign AROD and only go up in payroll by 5%( i think thats what the article said). So it's not out of the realm of possibility.

[rician blast]

Well said' date=' use the money elsewhere, this could (or will be for whoever gets him) a contract that cripples a teams payroll and leaves major holes in the team.[/quote']

 

Using the money is a great idea, but it depends on (1) who is available and (2) who WANTS to come to Boston.