Tough test for the sox coming up

[jacksonianmarch]

Anyone see the pitching matchups for the next 5 days?

 

Tonight's game may be the most winnable of the 5.

 

Schilling vs Fogg- edge Schill. Sox should cruise

Beckett vs Francis- push. Soft tossing lefty with strikeout pitch vs sox best pitcher

Tavarez vs Zito- edge Zito. SOft tossing lefty with strikeout pitch vs sox worst pitcher

Cain vs Matsuzaka- edge Cain. Cain is one of the best pitchers in all of baseball

Wakefield vs Morris- push. Morris has been unreal this yr, mid 2's ERA, 7-3.

 

After tonight's game, the sox O will certainly be tested.

[Metropolitan Cowboy]

The Sox will be fine, after all the AL is by far the better league, and the NL west is the weakest division in baseball.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

Anyone see the pitching matchups for the next 5 days?

 

Tonight's game may be the most winnable of the 5.

 

Schilling vs Fogg- edge Schill. Sox should cruise

Beckett vs Francis- push. Soft tossing lefty with strikeout pitch vs sox best pitcher

Tavarez vs Zito- edge Zito. SOft tossing lefty with strikeout pitch vs sox worst pitcher

Cain vs Matsuzaka- edge Cain. Cain is one of the best pitchers in all of baseball

Wakefield vs Morris- push. Morris has been unreal this yr, mid 2's ERA, 7-3.

 

After tonight's game, the sox O will certainly be tested.

 

No way Beckett vs. Francis is a push...noooo way. Beckett has been one of the top 10, if not top 5, pitchers in baseball this year.

[a700hitter]

We might only win 3 of the next 5 games, which should be good enough to maintain the lead over the Yankees.

[jacksonianmarch]

No way Beckett vs. Francis is a push...noooo way. Beckett has been one of the top 10' date=' if not top 5, pitchers in baseball this year.[/quote']

 

the only reason why it is a push is because you guys struggle mightily against soft tossing lefties. And he is one of the best in the business.

[redsoxrules]

the only reason why it is a push is because you guys struggle mightily against soft tossing lefties. And he is one of the best in the business.

 

one of the best? i can name 10 just on the top of my head that are better than francis

[jacksonianmarch]

one of the best? i can name 10 just on the top of my head that are better than francis

 

You are not giving him his due. He's the Rockies best pitcher.

[Metropolitan Cowboy]

You are not giving him his due. He's the Rockies best pitcher.

 

That is like being the smartest kid with one too many chromosome. There is no way the best Red Sox pitcher is a push going up against a soft tossing pitcher that happens to be the best pitcher for the Rockies. This is more of an indictment of how poor the Rockies staff is since the best pitcher they have is a soft tossing lefty.

[yeszir]

That is like being the smartest kid with one too many chromosome. There is no way the best Red Sox pitcher is a push going up against a soft tossing pitcher that happens to be the best pitcher for the Rockies. This is more of an indictment of how poor the Rockies staff is since the best pitcher they have is a soft tossing lefty.

 

Are you aware of the Red Sox track record against soft tossing lefties?

[redsoxrules]

You are not giving him his due. He's the Rockies best pitcher.

 

the best offense he has faced thus far is the braves who ranked 11 in the majors for runs scored and he got knocked around in that game . he hasent even faced a top offensive team yet

[Metropolitan Cowboy]

Are you aware of the Red Sox track record against soft tossing lefties?

 

How many have they faced this year?

[ORS]

Sox are +0.047 vs. LHP, +0.053 vs. finesse pitchers in OPS.

[redsoxrules]

sox are hitting 286 VS lefties this year compared to 270 VS righties

[seabeachfred]

Anyone see the pitching matchups for the next 5 days?

 

Tonight's game may be the most winnable of the 5.

 

Schilling vs Fogg- edge Schill. Sox should cruise

Beckett vs Francis- push. Soft tossing lefty with strikeout pitch vs sox best pitcher

Tavarez vs Zito- edge Zito. SOft tossing lefty with strikeout pitch vs sox worst pitcher

Cain vs Matsuzaka- edge Cain. Cain is one of the best pitchers in all of baseball

Wakefield vs Morris- push. Morris has been unreal this yr, mid 2's ERA, 7-3.

 

After tonight's game, the sox O will certainly be tested.

 

Since the Giants have been having trouble beating anybody except the Dodgers I wouldn't be too concerned for our safety. Something tells me we're going to be fine when the week ends. You might start concerning yourself with the Mets. After being embarrassed by the laughable Dodgers twice already this week they will be angry enough to want to dismantle Yankee Stadium when they get there this weekend. But thank's for the warning anyway.

[seabeachfred]

The Sox will be fine' date=' after all the AL is by far the better league, and the NL west is the weakest division in baseball.[/quote']

 

You really have a lot of trouble keeping two separate thoughts together, don't you? Didn't I read in your pithy private message just a tad ago that the Yankees are coming and we'll be in deep s***? Something like I will be long dead before the Red Sox win another WS Title? I'm trying to figure out if you're the Winchell or Mahoney in this saga, either the puppet master or the dummy.

 

Feel free to keep posting your inane comments but a gentle warning to you Dodgerman. The Angels are coming to your house this weekend and you know what that means? DEAD MEN WALKING!!!!!!!! I wonder why your team cannot beat another California team in a series? Swept by the Giants at home, swept in Anaheim, swept in San Diego. I might even send you a broom to clear your thoughts after this weekend.

 

Still, it's very nice that you keep worrying about us. Keep the good thoughts coming.

[Rodney Harrison]

Since the Giants have been having trouble beating anybody except the Dodgers I wouldn't be too concerned for our safety. Something tells me we're going to be fine when the week ends. You might start concerning yourself with the Mets. After being embarrassed by the laughable Dodgers twice already this week they will be angry enough to want to dismantle Yankee Stadium when they get there this weekend. But thank's for the warning anyway.

 

You're forgetting about the Dodgers' first weekend series in San Francisco when we swept them in their own house. And the Mets are 2-9 in the month of June. I don't think they're that much better than the Dodgers.

[SCM33]

I really dont think this will be a tough test coming up.

 

I think a tough test would be kinda some of the teams weve already went through (anaheim, oakland, cleveland...and yes even the yankees ) The NL just doesnt scare me that much, especially a bunch of soft tossing lefties.

 

They are playing the Rockies and Giants......a real tough test?, come on man...lets be realistic. Even if they throw gems, they will still most likely lose seeing how both teams are under .500 on the season which tells me....in general they just arent very good ballclubs. PLUS they play in the godforsaken NL West.

 

The only guy on either one of those staffs I would consider a "tough" test would have been Linecum since we havent seen him yet and he has that unique throwing motion.

[Cocos Disciples]

Zito is 5-5, 4.78 ERA against the Sox lifetime, with 35 walks and 10 home runs in 79 innings. The soft tossing lefty status hasn't really affected us.

 

Fogg and Morris have each faced the Sox once lifetime. Morris threw a complete game allowing 1 run, and Fogg went 7 allowing 5.

[TedWilliams101]

And Matt Cain hasn't been exactly stellar this season. He has averaged about a walk every other inning, bad K/walk ratio, 1.32 whip, 3.31ERA in the weakest division in baseball. The Red Sox are the most patient team in baseball. I expect him to give up a handful of walks and give up at least 3-4 runs. Tavarez has look great in the last 4 starts and our pen has been one of the best in baseball. We will do fine.

[SCM33]

Zito is 5-5, 4.78 ERA against the Sox lifetime, with 35 walks and 10 home runs in 79 innings. The soft tossing lefty status hasn't really affected us.

 

Fogg and Morris have each faced the Sox once lifetime. Morris threw a complete game allowing 1 run, and Fogg went 7 allowing 5.

 

Morris could very well pitch well.....you expect him too anyway.

 

IMO Fogg doesnt stand a snowballs chance in hell.

[Rodney Harrison]

And Matt Cain hasn't been exactly stellar this season. He has averaged about a walk every other inning' date=' bad K/walk ratio, 1.32 whip, 3.31ERA in the weakest division in baseball. The Red Sox are the most patient team in baseball. I expect him to give up a handful of walks and give up at least 3-4 runs. Tavarez has look great in the last 4 starts and our pen has been one of the best in baseball. We will do fine.[/quote']

Cain doesn't pitch in the NL Central.

 

I know a lot of you are put off by the DodgerBlues people here, but to call the NL West the weakest division is stretching it.

[Ray10]

Anyone see the pitching matchups for the next 5 days?

 

Tonight's game may be the most winnable of the 5.

 

Schilling vs Fogg- edge Schill. Sox should cruise

Beckett vs Francis- push. Soft tossing lefty with strikeout pitch vs sox best pitcher

Tavarez vs Zito- edge Zito. SOft tossing lefty with strikeout pitch vs sox worst pitcher

Cain vs Matsuzaka- edge Cain. Cain is one of the best pitchers in all of baseball

Wakefield vs Morris- push. Morris has been unreal this yr, mid 2's ERA, 7-3.

 

After tonight's game, the sox O will certainly be tested.

 

 

Dude Josh Beckett is 10 million times better than Francis. Josh Beckett has been one of the best pitchers in baseball this year by far. The Rockies pitching is nothing to fear and neither is that of the Giants the only pitcher on San Fran that is even someone to worry about is Matt Morris and that's when he's completely on his game.

[SCM33]

OK...tradionally....like every year since basbeall was invented they are the worst division in baseball....but this year, the NL Central seems to be worse.

 

If you put the Orioles or Jays in either one of those divisions you are looking at at least a 3rd place....maybe a second place team.

 

Those teams would get eaten alive in the AL east

[Rodney Harrison]

The Central has been the worst the last two years. The West gets a lot of bad press because of 2005, but before that, I can't think of any other year in which it was terrible. Maybe 1984, 1987, 1994, or 1999-2000.

[SCM33]

The Central has been the worst the last two years. The West gets a lot of bad press because of 2005' date=' but before that, I can't think of any other year in which it was terrible. Maybe 1984, 1987, 1994, or 1999-2000.[/quote']

 

2006 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanDiego SDP 88 74 .543 --

LosAngls LAD 88 74 .543 --

SanFranc SFG 76 85 .472 11.5

Arizona ARI 76 86 .469 12.0

Colorado COL 76 86 .469 12.0

 

2005 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanDiego SDP 82 80 .506 --

Arizona ARI 77 85 .475 5.0

SanFranc SFG 75 87 .463 7.0

LosAngls LAD 71 91 .438 11.0

Colorado COL 67 95 .414 15.0

 

2004 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

LosAngls LAD 93 69 .574 --

SanFranc SFG 91 71 .562 2.0

SanDiego SDP 87 75 .537 6.0

Colorado COL 68 94 .420 25.0

Arizona ARI 51 111 .315 42.0

 

2003 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanFranc SFG 100 61 .621 --

LosAngls LAD 85 77 .525 15.5

Arizona ARI 84 78 .519 16.5

Colorado COL 74 88 .457 26.5

SanDiego SDP 64 98 .395 36.5

 

2002 Was a strong year

2001 Was a strong year

2000 Was a Strong year

 

1999 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

Arizona ARI 100 62 .617 --

SanFranc SFG 86 76 .531 14.0

LosAngls LAD 77 85 .475 23.0

SanDiego SDP 74 88 .457 26.0

Colorado COL 72 90 .444 28.0

 

1998 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanDiego SDP 98 64 .605 --

SanFranc SFG 89 74 .546 9.5

LosAngls LAD 83 79 .512 15.0

Colorado COL 77 85 .475 21.0

Arizona ARI 65 97 .401 33.

 

1997 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanFranc SFG 90 72 .556 --

LosAngls LAD 88 74 .543 2.0

Colorado COL 83 79 .512 7.0

SanDiego SDP 76 86 .469 14.0

 

1996 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanDiego SDP 91 71 .562 --

LosAngls LAD 90 72 .556 1.0

Colorado COL 83 79 .512 8.0

SanFranc SFG 68 94 .420 23.0

 

1995 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

LosAngls LAD 78 66 .542 --

Colorado COL 77 67 .535 1.0

SanDiego SDP 70 74 .486 8.0

SanFranc SFG 67 77 .465 11.0

 

1994 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

LosAngls LAD 58 56 .509 --

SanFranc SFG 55 60 .478 3.5

Colorado COL 53 64 .453 6.5

SanDiego SDP 47 70 .402 12.5

 

 

as you can see....it has been historically a weak division....

[seabeachfred]

You're forgetting about the Dodgers' first weekend series in San Francisco when we swept them in their own house. And the Mets are 2-9 in the month of June. I don't think they're that much better than the Dodgers.

 

No Rodney, I'm not forgetting the Dodgers sweep of the Giants in SF back in April, but you might remind Metropolitan Cowboy about it. He thinks the Dodgers swept the Giants at Dodger Stadium. Why? Well I'll keep my opinions to myself.

 

At present the Mets are no better than the Dodgers; you are right about that. Perhaps they are waiting to take on the Yankees.

[Rodney Harrison]

2006 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanDiego SDP 88 74 .543 --

LosAngls LAD 88 74 .543 --

SanFranc SFG 76 85 .472 11.5

Arizona ARI 76 86 .469 12.0

Colorado COL 76 86 .469 12.0

 

2005 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanDiego SDP 82 80 .506 --

Arizona ARI 77 85 .475 5.0

SanFranc SFG 75 87 .463 7.0

LosAngls LAD 71 91 .438 11.0

Colorado COL 67 95 .414 15.0

 

2004 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

LosAngls LAD 93 69 .574 --

SanFranc SFG 91 71 .562 2.0

SanDiego SDP 87 75 .537 6.0

Colorado COL 68 94 .420 25.0

Arizona ARI 51 111 .315 42.0

 

2003 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanFranc SFG 100 61 .621 --

LosAngls LAD 85 77 .525 15.5

Arizona ARI 84 78 .519 16.5

Colorado COL 74 88 .457 26.5

SanDiego SDP 64 98 .395 36.5

 

2002 Was a strong year

2001 Was a strong year

2000 Was a Strong year

 

1999 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

Arizona ARI 100 62 .617 --

SanFranc SFG 86 76 .531 14.0

LosAngls LAD 77 85 .475 23.0

SanDiego SDP 74 88 .457 26.0

Colorado COL 72 90 .444 28.0

 

1998 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanDiego SDP 98 64 .605 --

SanFranc SFG 89 74 .546 9.5

LosAngls LAD 83 79 .512 15.0

Colorado COL 77 85 .475 21.0

Arizona ARI 65 97 .401 33.

 

1997 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanFranc SFG 90 72 .556 --

LosAngls LAD 88 74 .543 2.0

Colorado COL 83 79 .512 7.0

SanDiego SDP 76 86 .469 14.0

 

1996 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

SanDiego SDP 91 71 .562 --

LosAngls LAD 90 72 .556 1.0

Colorado COL 83 79 .512 8.0

SanFranc SFG 68 94 .420 23.0

 

1995 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

LosAngls LAD 78 66 .542 --

Colorado COL 77 67 .535 1.0

SanDiego SDP 70 74 .486 8.0

SanFranc SFG 67 77 .465 11.0

 

1994 West Division

Team W L WL% GB

LosAngls LAD 58 56 .509 --

SanFranc SFG 55 60 .478 3.5

Colorado COL 53 64 .453 6.5

SanDiego SDP 47 70 .402 12.5

 

 

as you can see....it has been historically a weak division....

Only if you count the last-place team. I'm looking at the top of the division. Last year, two teams made the postseason from the West. In 2003-2004, three teams finished at .500 or better. Same with 1998. By that logic, the AL East is also historically bad, since they have the Orioles and Devil Rays dragging down the division.

[jacksonianmarch]

Only if you count the last-place team. I'm looking at the top of the division. Last year' date=' two teams made the postseason from the West. In 2003-2004, three teams finished at .500 or better. Same with 1998. By that logic, the AL East is also historically bad, since they have the Orioles and Devil Rays dragging down the division.[/quote']

 

cmon now. The NL West has been putrid until this season. You do know that the last time an NL West team won a playoff series, it was 2002. Since 2002, the NL West has won 2, that is 2 playoff games in a total of 5 series (4 NLW winners and one wild card). The playoff record is 2-15. That is gross.

[Rodney Harrison]

cmon now. The NL West has been putrid until this season. You do know that the last time an NL West team won a playoff series' date=' it was 2002. Since 2002, the NL West has won 2, that is [b']2[/b] playoff games in a total of 5 series (4 NLW winners and one wild card). The playoff record is 2-15. That is gross.

Actually, it's 3 playoff games.

 

By that logic, was the NL Central the strongest division last year?

[jacksonianmarch]

Actually, it's 3 playoff games.

 

By that logic, was the NL Central the strongest division last year?

 

i am not using one single series, I am using 5, consecutive.