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So on baseball tonight they played the audio clip of curt talking about bonds today and how he he admitted he used steroids. ESPN was quick to point out though that he hasn't admitted to anything however. not sure if this is even worth mentioning but I figure I would put the question out there: is there some validity to schilling's comment?

 

I don't say this to disrespect #38, he's forever a hero in my book I'm just not sure what he was getting at

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He also mentioned the fact that because Hank Aaron won't show up when bonds hits #755 that it speaks for the general feeling people have about him breaking the record. AKA it is not that big of a deal since bonds reputation is allegedly tarnished by using steroids.
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I believe Shill was referring to the leaked grand jury testimony where Bonds admitted to using the cream and clear for years (both steroids) but he said he didn't know what it was (sure:rolleyes: )

 

The part about the wife cheating and the taxes cheating i heard as well from other sources.........WEEI was reporting today that what shill said was all confirmed to be true. Shill just calls them as he see's them, and this time he had the facts right.......the people upset over this seem to be bonds supporters, from what i have seen.

 

Shill's basic point was it's just sad that it's happening this way, very disappointing

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here's the deal. I dislike the media whore aspect of Schilling, but the guy is on the money on this one. The guy has cheated his way through life. Why let him have the most hallowed record in american sports through cheating?

 

Seriously, even if you hate ARod and the Yankees, it is better he hold the record in due time than have this roided up cheater hold it. I am fine with him playing and fine with him helping his team since steroids werent tested for and yada yada yada. But when you come close to a big record in american sports, you should be held to a higher standard. And I'd be saying this even if Giambi was closing in on 755.

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I agree with Schilling, however, I think he is stupid for saying it the way he did. The truth is that Bonds has never admitted to cheating on his taxes or his wife. Whether or not he admitted to using steriods during the Balco invesigation is not known, he has never admitted anything to the public. I think Bonds is probably gulity on all those accounts but it is not Curt's or anyones place to say what he said.
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the fact that schilling brought up bonds issues with adultery and taxes are wrong

flat out wrong

 

what comes around goes around and if i were the sox brass i would tell curt to shut his f***ing mouth

why cant this man shut the f*** up and pitch

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I agree. Shut up and pitch. Not smart when the man will likely have a chance to break the ultimate record off you in your park in mid-June.
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Curt is who he is, he's always been outspoken and he has a right to an opinion. and besides, what gives us the right to criticize Bonds for everything he's done but not Curt?
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I agree. Shut up and pitch. Not smart when the man will likely have a chance to break the ultimate record off you in your park in mid-June.

 

It won't happen...Shill also said in that interview that if it comes to a record HR Shill won't give him anything to hit...no chance. His exact quote was something like "i don't want to be remembered like (can't remember his name but the guy who gave up 715 to Aaron)

 

Here's the interview in question:

 

http://media.weei.podzinger.com/archive/DennisAndCallahan/2007-05-09_Curt_Schilling_Weekly_Segment.mp3

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alright, theoretical question for you.

 

Bases loaded, 0 outs, tie game in the 7th, Bonds to the dish. Does he walk him?

 

Tough question: Bonds can hit about any pitch including a Jenny Finch pitch, but I would think that Schill would unintentionally walk him, but if its bases chucked with no outs and a tie game, tito would've already took him out and it would be up to the bullpen not schilling

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I also just wanted to say that Schilling likes to say whats on his mind and I would agree with him! Truth hurts. I'm by no means a Bonds supporter even when he was in Pittsburgh, never liked the guy! I still think he knew what he was taking when he used the cream and the clear, I dont buy into that story that he unknowingly took steriods!

 

Be a man and own up to what you did!

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I'm straying a little off the Schilling focus here, but...

 

I couldn't care less who holds the record for most HR's in a career. I also don't care who has the most K's, wins, etc. The name on front is what concerns me.

 

The fact that Bonds is chastised more than anyone else is idiocy. Why bash him over all others...because he's approaching some milestone that too, too many people considered "hallowed"? (as another poster called it). f*** that, there are cheaters up and down every line-up in baseball and I suspect there have been for many more years than we realize. Was it Papi who said something to the effect of "what...Barry's performance enhancing drugs were better than anyone else's s***?"

 

Bonds is a baseball great...an immortal....with or without PEDs. I don't need to know how many career HRs he hit to know that, same as I don't need to recite stats for Aaron, or Ruth, or Williams, etc. to illustrate their greatness. I think Bonds is an arrogant scumbag, but I couldn't care less what he did or didn't put in his body.

 

This "I won't be there to witness it because he cheated" crap is sickening and hypocritical. Think the commissioner and other MLB officials never had a suspicion that its players were using? With balls flying out of parks at record rates, players half-swings going 400 feet, no-names hitting 30-40 a year then suddenly falling off, suspicious injuries occuring? I suspect MLB suspected all along, but it was all good for league revenues, so they looked the other way. Then things got ugly and they made certain players scapegoats.

 

Here's my take on Bonds...I won't be watching because I don't f***in' care.

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Schilling wants no part of Bonds making history. If Bonds is at home run No. 754 and Schilling is pitching during the Giants' visit to Fenway, he won't be giving the slugger a pitch to hit.

 

"Not on purpose," he said, according to The Boston Globe. "Hell no. I don't want to be Al Downing [the pitcher who gave up Aaron's record-breaking 715th home run in 1974].

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I agree. Shut up and pitch. Not smart when the man will likely have a chance to break the ultimate record off you in your park in mid-June.

I agree with you too. God this pains me to say it. Who was it in Philadelphia that said that Schilling was a horse once every five days, and a horse's ass the other four?

 

I've never heard a better quote about a player. What the Sox should do is give Schilling the same perks the Yankees gave Clemens. Except for him, it should be mandatory that on the days he doesn't pitch, he isn't allowed around the team.

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From 38pitches.com:

 

Everyone has days and events in life they’d love to push the rewind button on, yesterday was one of those days. Regardless of my opinions, thoughts and beliefs on anything Barry Bonds it was absolutely irresponsible and wrong to say what I did. I don’t think it’s within anyone’s right to say the things I said yesterday and affect other peoples lives in that way.

 

I’d love to tell you I was ambushed, misquoted, misinterpreted, something other than what it was, but I wasn’t. I’m thinking that waking up at 8:30 am to do the weekly interview we do with WEEI is probably not the greatest format and if you heard the interview it’s not hard to realize that I’m usually awake about 30-45 seconds before it begins. That’s still no excuse or reason to say what I did, or even answer the question that was asked. The question I was asked and the answer I gave yesterday affected a lot more people than just he and I. His wife, his children, his friends and his family were all affected by that, as were mine and my teammates.

 

As someone who’s made it very clear I have major issues with members of the media that take little or no pride in their work it’s the height of hypocrisy for me to say what I did, in any forum. I started this blog to give people a look into the life we live on and off the field, not to get into back and forths with people I don’t like or have issues with. Doing that will only make this a rant filled no content bunch of words.

 

Quite a few people have tossed Biblical references my way in the past week or so after the Thorne incident in Baltimore talking about turning the other cheek and being above the fray. I’ve often thought I do and try to be that way, but it’s very clear in the last two weeks I’ve done the exact opposite. That’s not to say I won’t respond when I feel someone’s calling me out and is wrong, but doing so in every instance will serve no one and only make me say and act like the very people I have issues with.

 

The only perfect human to walk the face of the earth died a few thousand years ago, that much I know. I am far from perfect and make more than my share of mistakes, which is something I have no problem with because that’s part of being human. However when my mistakes adversely affect other peoples lives, that’s a big deal. It was a callous, wreckless and irresponsible thing to say, and for that I apologize to Barry, Barry’s family, Barry’s friends and the Giants organization, my teammates and the Red Sox organization as well as anyone else that may have been offended by the comments I made.

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I agree with you too. God this pains me to say it. Who was it in Philadelphia that said that Schilling was a horse once every five days, and a horse's ass the other four?

 

I've never heard a better quote about a player. What the Sox should do is give Schilling the same perks the Yankees gave Clemens. Except for him, it should be mandatory that on the days he doesn't pitch, he isn't allowed around the team.

 

I think it was former Phillies GM Ed Wade.

 

Amazingly, it was the smartest thing he said or did during his tenure in Philadelphia.

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