the ultimate pitcher [your ideal]

[He Hate Me]

What would be your ultimate pitcher? What kind of pitches would he throw? pitch motion etc. realistic plz. don't say a guy who throws with both arms and knows 12 pitches. and only pitches that you've actually seen and remember =P

 

Here's mine:

 

Pitching stance - Mo. Probably one of the smoothest pitching motions of his generation. Lulls batters to sleep with the effortless motion. Probably one of the better pitching motions out there if you want to avoid injury associated with pitch motion (Apier, K-Rod)

 

Pitch #1 - Zumaya's Fastball. he hit 100MPH twice as much as the rest of baseball combined, nuff said. Plus it's got movement.

 

Pitch #2 - Pedro's Red Sox changeup. Just filthy, watching him throw this thing was the only reason I started using it in video game baseball. Afterwards, I'd watch the replay to see the bat head already on the guy's opposite shoulder before the ball has reached the mitt lol

 

Pitch #3 - Young Randy Johnson's Slider. this thing was filthy back in the day. nuff said

 

Pitch #4 - Chien Ming Wang's Sinker. It's liek a bowling ball. I know he don't strike out a lot of people but that's what ZUmaya's fastball is for =)

 

Pitch #5 - Jim Mecir's Screwball. I've always LOVED this pitch simply because it seems to go against the law of physics and neutralizes any righty lefty matchups.

 

Pitch #6 - Tim Wakefield's Knuckeball. It's the best one I've seen when he's on. I'll keep this sucker around for the late innings when my arm gets tired.

 

Greg Maddux's defense. The guy's got how many gold gloves? Perfect pitcher needs to be able to make that perfect throw to first base also.

[jacksonianmarch]

few things.

 

Pedro's FB when he was in his prime was the toughest fastball to hit. Not only was it high 90s, but it moved all over the entire plate. I'd also be remiss to not mention Pedro's changeup. You have to put mound presence and Bob Gibson would top that list. As for screwball, you want the best, go back to the turn of the century. I believe Christy Mathewson had the best. And for knucklers, Hoyt Wilhelm was the best in that department. You want a nasty pitch? Eefus by none other than Rip Sewell.

[TheKilo]

My ideal pitcher is Pedro Martinez circa 1999-2000.

[He Hate Me]

few things.

 

Pedro's FB when he was in his prime was the toughest fastball to hit. Not only was it high 90s, but it moved all over the entire plate. I'd also be remiss to not mention Pedro's changeup. You have to put mound presence and Bob Gibson would top that list. As for screwball, you want the best, go back to the turn of the century. I believe Christy Mathewson had the best. And for knucklers, Hoyt Wilhelm was the best in that department. You want a nasty pitch? Eefus by none other than Rip Sewell.

 

the only pitch I've seen on your list is Pedro's fastball, and while it was great, I'm very comfortable in saying that his changeup probably made it a gazillion times more lethal

[jacksonianmarch]

97 mph fastball with as much as 8 inches of movement while being pinpoint accurate. He could have thrown that fastball every pitch and still been better than average.

[Thumper]

My all around ideal pitcher would have to be a combination of Josh Beckett and Curt Schilling. Put Beckett's young speed with Schilling's experience, BOOM. Perfect games are bound to come.

[jacksonianmarch]

Josh Beckett and Curt Schilling? Right now? Combined they are a 4.5ERA pitcher with a high BAA.

[TheKilo]

My all around ideal pitcher would have to be a combination of Josh Beckett and Curt Schilling. Put Beckett's young speed with Schilling's experience' date=' BOOM. Perfect games are bound to come.[/quote']

 

 

Seriously? Seriously?

[CrespoBlows]

Josh Beckett and Curt Schilling? Right now? Combined they are a 4.5ERA pitcher with a high BAA.

 

Seriously? Seriously?

 

[ORS]

Well, the typical starter uses 3-4 pitches, so I'm going to be reasonable and give my perfect starter 5 (and they will be pitches I've seen thrown).

 

Pitch #1: The Ryan Express - 5000+ K's, need I say more?

 

Pitch #2: Mariano's Cutter

 

Pitch #3: Pedro's Change-Up

 

Pitch #4: Gooden's Curve

 

Pitch #5: Eck's Slider

 

Saberhagen's command, Schilling's big-game ability, Clemen's (regular season) competitiveness.

 

However, like Kilo said, Pedro circa '99-'00 works too.

[jacksonianmarch]

when ESPN did the best pitches of all time, Pedro was in the top 10 of three pitches. He had the best change, one of the best fastballs and one of the best curve's. The guy was ridiculous.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

I think to have a list like this without Mr. Splitty from Clemens repetoire is foolish. When Clemens was on, it was downright unhittable. And the cool thing about his split, or, well, any good split for that matter, was that you could throw it as an outpitch in any situation. (Except maaaaybe with less than 2 outs and a runner on third)...but you could get the K, or, assuming the hitter makes contact, you're going to get a weak ground ball for a double play.

 

There's a lot more guys that throw them now...so it might not be as effective today as it was when he started throwing it, but it's still a nasty pitch.

 

Now that it's come out that the gyroball was pretty much a myth, Sutter's Split was still the last "new" pitch to come into MLB. s*** is still naaaaaaaaasty.

[ORS]

When he had his power, Schilling's split was better than Clemens'. However, Mike Scott's, when he was on, was just silly - of course, he was probably scuffing the ball. The splitter moves a lot like the change up, and none of their splitters were better than Pedro's change, so once I had it on my list, I didn't see the need for redundancy.

[yeszir]

Ultimate pitcher: 0.00 era, 27 k/9ip, 0.00 WHIP, pitches every inning of every game, 1.000 fielding percentage (unnecessary as he strikes out every batter he faces). Oh, and this is an NL team so he also hits 75 home runs and bats at a .450 level.

[ORS]

Ultimate pitcher: 0.00 era' date=' 27 k/9ip, 0.00 WHIP, pitches every inning of every game, 1.000 fielding percentage (unnecessary as he strikes out every batter he faces). Oh, and this is an NL team so he also hits 75 home runs and bats at a .450 level.[/quote']

That sucks. He fails 55% of the time at the plate. Loser.

[Gom]

And you call some of my posts fluff?

[yeszir]

That sucks. He fails 55% of the time at the plate. Loser.

 

That's because 55% of the time he's too busy boinking the ball girl to make an appearance at the plate.

[He Hate Me]

Ultimate pitcher: 0.00 era' date=' 27 k/9ip, 0.00 WHIP, pitches every inning of every game, 1.000 fielding percentage (unnecessary as he strikes out every batter he faces). Oh, and this is an NL team so he also hits 75 home runs and bats at a .450 level.[/quote']

 

There is such a man, and he has been signed by the Yankees...of course.

 

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[Thumper]

Brendan Fraser?

[He Hate Me]

Brendan Fraser?

 

 

His name is Steve Nebraska.

[yankeessuck013]

I'll go w/ Pitchers who are still pitching in todays game

 

Pitching Motion/body type/work ethic: Clemens- Its not the smoothest ever but lets face it Clemens is pitching in his mid 40's and still at a high level.

 

Fastball: Oswalt- Hes prob my fav non red sox pitcher and when he is spotting this thing its nearly unhittable

 

Change up: J.Santana- IMO the best pitch in baseball when you get a pitcher who knows how to use it and Santanas is nasty

 

Slider: R.Johnson- Even though its not what it used to be he'll still gear it up every now and then. When hes got it working forget it

 

Curve Ball: B.Zito-Love the movement on this pitch

 

Cutter: Mo- Do you want to know when a pitch is on another level? When hitters know its coming and they still cant hit it

 

Sinker: B.Webb- Wang is a close 2nd but I think Webb's is just a little better

 

knuckleball: wakefield..nuff said

 

GYROBALL (haha): Matsuzaka?

 

Pick off move: Pettitte

 

Defense: Maddox

 

NL Hitting: Willis

[a700hitter]

Well, the typical starter uses 3-4 pitches, so I'm going to be reasonable and give my perfect starter 5 (and they will be pitches I've seen thrown).

 

Pitch #1: The Ryan Express - 5000+ K's, need I say more?

 

Pitch #2: Mariano's Cutter

 

Pitch #3: Pedro's Change-Up

 

Pitch #4: Gooden's Curve

 

Pitch #5: Eck's Slider

 

Saberhagen's command, Schilling's big-game ability, Clemen's (regular season) competitiveness.

 

However, like Kilo said, Pedro circa '99-'00 works too.

I'd have to go with Blyleven's curveball.

[ksushi]

Nolan's fastball

 

Pedro's change

 

Koufax's curve

 

Rollie Fingers slider

 

Rocket's split

 

 

This guy never loses a game.

[ORS]

I'd have to go with Blyleven's curveball.

I only caught the tail end of his career, and Gooden's curve was better than Bert's at that time.

[jacksonianmarch]

YS, Wang's sinker may be better than Webb's. The reason why Webb is so good is that he has 2 other plus pitches. Wang doesnt.

[schillingouttheks]

YS' date=' Wang's sinker may be better than Webb's. The reason why Webb is so good is that he has 2 other plus pitches. Wang doesnt.[/quote']

 

You defend Wang whenever someone doesn't put him on a pedestal and bow down to him.

[TheKilo]

You defend Wang whenever someone doesn't put him on a pedestal and bow down to him.

 

Jacko's the one who puts the wang on a pedestal.

[Mr Crunchy]

wang got hit last time out

by the end of last season he was 1 of the best righties in the al

 

i figure the al has seen enuff of him to bring him back to earth

or in his case

the flowing cesspool,the font of putrecense,hells highpoint,jerusalem on jerome

aka the bronx

[Cityofchampions33]

Motion: Schilling's, smooth as silk

Fastball: Zumaya's velocity with Pedro's movement

Change-up: Santana's, downright sick

Curve: Always liked El Duque's slow curve

Slider: K-Rod's

Sinker: Webb's

Knuckler: Steve Sparks, obviously lol

Intensity: :papelbon:

[a700hitter]

I only caught the tail end of his career' date=' and Gooden's curve was better than Bert's at that time.[/quote']My recollection is that Blyleven threw his curve ball at several different speeds varying the tightness of the spin. I could be wrong. It was a long time ago. Nevertheless, he had a hellacious curve.