Question

[TheKilo]

What kind of player could Craig Hansen bring back, in a trade, straight up, with no money involved?

 

People seem to be very willing to part with MDC, but he's been better than Hansen.

 

I agree that Hansen has more potential than MDC, but he hasn't reached it...and as of right now MDC is the better pitcher.

 

Why are people hesitant to shop Hansen but willing for MDC?

 

What can Hansen bring back in a trade?

[Papelbon58]

I feel the same way. Manny D is more valuable to me than Hansen.

[jacksonianmarch]

Hansen is an enigma. Right now his worth isnt that high, but how foolish will the sox look if he hits his potential right after he is dealt? That is the argument against dealing him.

 

The argument for dealing him is that he doesnt have the balls to handle the bigs at this juncture and his lights out stuff is finding the center of the hitters bats. He will thrive in a lower level of pressure, but it will take yrs for him to figure it out in the fishbowl in boston.

[scaffolds]

The reason people that some fans thinks higher of Hansen than they do of Delcarmen is because of the ML contract that he signed after he was the Sox pick in 2005 also he went to college in the East coast and he had outstanding college carreer.At this point Del Carmen is bette pitcherr than Hansen because he maybe more consistent with his stuff. but both of them have very good potential and shouldn't be traded.

[TheKilo]

No one's really answered my question though.

 

I keep hearing people say "if it's just Lowell, Tavarez, and MDC for Helton why haven't they done it yet?"

 

Pitching at St. Johns doesn't inspire visions of future success.

 

 

Now, THIS IS NOT A KNOCK AGAINST HANSEN. I just find it odd people are more willing to deal the worse pitcher in this supposed Helton deal as of now.

[ksushi]

Here is why I value Hansen more:

 

He is 2 years younger than Delcarmen, and has a better repetoire. He has the higher ceiling. I realize Hansen hasn't done anything to back it up, but he is 23. MDC and Hansen are almost on equal footing as far as experience, MDC gets the ever so slight edge. I would take the younger player with the higher ceiling. I like Hansen's stuff a little more, and he has more stuff. If it were me, I wouldn't trade Hansen because I do think he has the potential to be special. Delcarmen might too, but he is a little more expendable. I like both a lot.

[TheKilo]

Here is why I value Hansen more:

 

He is 2 years younger than Delcarmen, and has a better repetoire. He has the higher ceiling. I realize Hansen hasn't done anything to back it up, but he is 23. MDC and Hansen are almost on equal footing as far as experience, MDC gets the ever so slight edge. I would take the younger player with the higher ceiling. I like Hansen's stuff a little more, and he has more stuff. If it were me, I wouldn't trade Hansen because I do think he has the potential to be special. Delcarmen might too, but he is a little more expendable. I like both a lot.

 

 

I don't knock Hansen either.

 

I think they should keep both, and could do so to get Helton.

 

Like I said, this is not a knock on Hansen. I just think people here are pumping him up to be something he isn't right now.

[SuperManny]

I don't knock Hansen either.

 

I think they should keep both, and could do so to get Helton.

 

Like I said, this is not a knock on Hansen. I just think people here are pumping him up to be something he isn't right now.

 

What exactly has MDC done that makes him better than Hansen? They both had bad numbesr in MLB last year (MDC 5 ERA, Hansen 6.5 ERA) but Hansen had amazing numbers in the minors at every level and is younger. Hansen has a career 1.8 ERA in the minors. MDC isn't nearly as good of a prospect as Hansen.

[Teddyballgame10]

Hes 23 get real, he has a load of talent and has plenty of time to mature as a big legure pitcher. He'll be fine, if the Sox give up on him it be huge mistake to do so so fast.

[ANiMAL]

i value hansens potential greater than MDC's. I see hansen as a future closer, and i view MDC as more as a future MR, or possibly SU; therefore hansen is more valueable in that case

[scaffolds]

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For sure Del Carmen isn't a middle reliever.

[example1]

People value him so highly because he's very young, can hit 98 mph and, according to every scout out there, has a slider that is actually his best pitch. Imagine Brad Lidge at 23 years old. Lidge was in the Florida spring league, Hansen just finished the second season in which he had time with the big club.

 

I think hansen would be the first to say that his slider has been lost since he signed, but he will likely have success with it again. With MDC what you see is what you get. A number of plus pitches but nothing absolutely outstanding. I just think that Helton will provide more in the clubhouse, defensively and in other ways on the field than MDC will and its worth pulling the trigger if MDC is the missing piece. .

[ANiMAL]

For sure Del Carmen isn't a middle reliever.

 

 

how is he not a middle releiver?

[TGov]

how is he not a middle releiver?

 

I think in a few years he'll be more than a middle reliever... but now I think hes a MR...