Yankees nearing deal for Mike Gonzalez?

[jacksonianmarch]

Who will be the 4th OF in 2007...Bernie?

 

probably thompson if defense is needed and bernie if offense is needed. I see them carrying 5OFers.

[a700hitter]

probably thompson if defense is needed and bernie if offense is needed. I see them carrying 5OFers.

Is Bernie under contract?

[jacksonianmarch]

Is Bernie under contract?

 

not right now. If melky doesnt get dealt, then Bernie wont have a spot. If he does get dealt, expect him to be a yankee.

[Cocos Disciples]

I made a point earlier about Melky not getting enough PT because the yankee outfield is actually anything but injury prone. Matsui played every single game of his career until he broke his wrist. Abreu has played over 150 games for something like 9 yrs in a row and Damon is continually over 135 games' date=' so Melky would have had to squak out some time when one of those guys got a rest as the DH. I love Melky. I think the guy is gonna hit for a high average one day and be a very different style of corner OFer. At the same time, he wont see the field as a starter for 2 more yrs and the yankees in that time will likely have a better OFer to go after or bring up Tabata. The time is now to move him, unfortunately.[/quote']

 

Johnny Damon is pretty damn injury prone. You don't need 3 guys hurt to get the 4th one playing time.

[jacksonianmarch]

Johnny Damon is pretty damn injury prone. You don't need 3 guys hurt to get the 4th one playing time.

 

Damon is durable bro. He takes the field with anything. My definition of injury prone and yours may be different. I consider injury prone by the injury and time missed. If your definition of injury prone is the fact that the guy battles multiple injuries every season then you are dead on. Fact is, though, Melky needs to see the field for at least 100 games, and out of the 3 in the OF and if Giambi is in fact entrenched at DH, then you wont get 40 out of that OF.

[ARod2212]

Who will be the 4th OF in 2007...Bernie?

Precisely why I don't want to lose Melky. Bernie as a 4th outfielder is a downgrade in every respect compared to Melky. Except veteran's experience!!!

[example1]

I imagine an extra incentive for the Yankees is keeping this pitcher away from the Red Sox. I'm willing to bet that was part of their thought process.

[riverside sluggers]

In a way I hope it happens. I think Melky and Kennedy are extremely dangerous' date=' and that trading Melky for a bullpen guy with no big game or American League experience is a mistake. McLouth is good I guess, but the Yankees have a solid core of pitchers they are developing in house. Trading Kennedy is a risk. I hope they do it. I do not really like Gonzales for the Sox anyway.[/quote']

 

Gonzalez is certainly better to close in 07 than the current in house candidates. Options continue to dwindle away, soon the Sox will be pressed against the wall to make a desperation trade... but eh maybe the Sox can tell their fans to expect a rehash of the bullpen by committe experiment

[elsrbueno]

I imagine an extra incentive for the Yankees is keeping this pitcher away from the Red Sox. I'm willing to bet that was part of their thought process.

 

I'm sure it's part of the thought process, and we should wait until a reliable source says something about the logistics of the trade, but chances are there's more coming from the Yankees than just Melky Cabrera for Gonzalez.

 

However, in this market, if you can get a hard throwing lefty for a 4th outfielder you do it 10 times out of 10. Like I've said 100 times on this board, Melky Cabreras are a dime a dozen.

[ARod2212]

I'm sure it's part of the thought process' date=' and we should wait until a [b']reliable[/b] source says something about the logistics of the trade, but chances are there's more coming from the Yankees than just Melky Cabrera for Gonzalez.

 

However, in this market, if you can get a hard throwing lefty for a 4th outfielder you do it 10 times out of 10. Like I've said 100 times on this board, Melky Cabreras are a dime a dozen.

Except Melky's replacement is going to be Bernie Williams. Melky can play all three outfield positions. Bernie can't play any. That will hamstring the team.

[jacksonianmarch]

Hrm. I hope Bernie retires. If the yankees think they are carrying 12 position players, they cannot have someone so inept at fielding in the OF as the backup. If we deal Melky, I hope KT gets the job as backup OFer. That guy is a good little ballplayer.

[TheKilo]

Hrm. I hope Bernie retires. If the yankees think they are carrying 12 position players' date=' they cannot have someone so inept at fielding in the OF as the backup. If we deal Melky, I hope KT gets the job as backup OFer. That guy is a good little ballplayer.[/quote']

 

Kevin Thompson sucks something fierce.

[jacksonianmarch]

he's better than Kapler

[Cocos Disciples]

...No?

[jacksonianmarch]

we shall see. He is faster and has more power.

[a700hitter]

Hrm. I hope Bernie retires. If the yankees think they are carrying 12 position players' date=' they cannot have someone so inept at fielding in the OF as the backup. If we deal Melky, I hope KT gets the job as backup OFer. That guy is a good little ballplayer.[/quote']Bernie was a vastly underrated player even by Yankee fans who I believe never gave him the credit he deserved. The only more important player in their championship run was Mo. Bernie was every bit as important as Jeter, O'Neil and Tino.

[jacksonianmarch]

Bernie was a vastly underrated player even by Yankee fans who I believe never gave him the credit he deserved. The only more important player in their championship run was Mo. Bernie was every bit as important as Jeter' date=' O'Neil and Tino.[/quote']

 

I agree. I loved Bernie, the man was amazing, but I dont think there is a baseball fan with eyes who thinks he can hang as a defender anymore.

[a700hitter]

I agree. I loved Bernie' date=' the man was amazing, but I dont think there is a baseball fan with eyes who thinks he can hang as a defender anymore.[/quote']He's shot as a defender. His arm has been gone for many years. His range has been gone for the last two or three years, and most recently he breaks very late on balls.

[jacksonianmarch]

Bernie was never considered a player who made great breaks. He was always someone who tracked a ball well once he broke. His speed made up for his slow breaks. Once his speed went, his breaks were very apparent.

[a700hitter]

Bernie was never considered a player who made great breaks. He was always someone who tracked a ball well once he broke. His speed made up for his slow breaks. Once his speed went' date=' his breaks were very apparent.[/quote']He can't read the ball at all anymore. He's a shell of himself. I don't know why he is hanging on.

[jacksonianmarch]

He can't read the ball at all anymore. He's a shell of himself. I don't know why he is hanging on.

 

He loves the game. If he wants to play, I wont stop him. He just wont have a spot here.

[TheKilo]

he's better than Kapler

 

I also think Kapler sucks something fierce.