Bonds To File For Free Agency

[yankeessuck013]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6111956

 

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Barry Bonds plans to file for free agency the first day he can, and no negotiations have taken place with the Giants about keeping the slugger in San Francisco.

[Soxfan1]

There goes ticket sales.

[Gom]

Would the Sox be interested in getting Bonds? Might be interesting.

[Papelbon58]

No

[CrespoBlows]

No

 

Yes.

 

Not often you're able to add a player of that impact for just cash. This won't even by a long term deal. The Red Sox would be nuts, if they didn't try for him. Especially, if he winds up a couple hundred miles elsewhere.

[riverside sluggers]

Barry Bonds has said in the past that he hates Boston, his father (biggest influence in his life) hates Boston even more with a passion. Im just scratching my head on this one little thing

 

One of the reason the Sox FO has tried to cast off Manny somewhere was because of his attitude, so this very same FO would gun hard after Bonds who would be trying to squash the HR record?? ESPN would be camped out on Yawkey Way each day, Boston would become a hated team in the AL just because of this addition. Not to mention, he's a clubhouse cancer. The two sides simply do not match

[Cityofchampions33]

Read game of Shadows then tell me that you want to sign barry Bonds, plus where on earth would he play?

[Gom]

I was just asking. I hope the Yankees pass on him, but signing Bonds, putting him in left, putting Manny in right, and not having to deal Manny might not be so bad. Just go sign some groundball pitchers.

 

A 3-4-5 of Ortiz, Ramirez, and Bonds would be..um...slightly above average.

 

As a Yankee fan, I hope you guys pass.

[CrespoBlows]

Read game of Shadows then tell me that you want to sign barry Bonds' date=' plus where on earth would he play?[/quote']

 

Continue to allow the media to sway your mind. You hate one guy who used steriods who, by the way, did them when they were not against baseball rules, and was probably one of thousands who were injecting steriods.

 

I care ZERO whether Barry Bonds used steriods or not. I also care ZERO whether or not he is an *******. I don't play with the guy, it does not bother me.

 

I do care whether or not the Red Sox field a competitive team. Barry Bonds, allows the Red Sox to field one of the most optimal lineups in MLB history. You cannot deny that Barry Bonds would represent a huge boost for the Red Sox in their chase to win a World Series.

 

Show Barry how much Boston has changed. After all, Boston is probably one of the most liberal cities in the United States. The city is still racist? I doubt it. If Barry Bonds has one ounce of common sense in him, he'll probably realize it too.

 

If we sign Bonds to play DH, he'll likely get 150 games in. He won't have to worry about the rigors of playing LF everyday, which should keep him fresh.

[riverside sluggers]

Read game of Shadows then tell me that you want to sign barry Bonds' date=' plus where on earth would he play?[/quote']

 

Crespo would like to see Bonds be the full-time DH, Ortiz at 1st base

[CrespoBlows]

One of the reason the Sox FO has tried to cast off Manny somewhere was because of his attitude' date=' so this very same FO would gun hard after Bonds who would be trying to squash the HR record?? ESPN would be camped out on Yawkey Way each day, Boston would become a hated team in the AL just because of this addition. Not to mention, he's a clubhouse cancer. The two sides simply do not match[/quote']

 

There's a slight difference. Manny Ramirez, may have quit on the team. Barry Bonds is just a prick, and in Major League Baseball, there are a lot of those. He just happens to have the camera in his face the whole time.

 

Bonds may be an ass, but he didn't stop the Giants from going to Game 7 of the World Series, a series they should have won.

 

Sure, the media may be out in full force in Boston, but is it really going to be much different? The Red Sox are already the most scrutinized team in baseball, this shouldn't be too much a problem.

[riverside sluggers]

eh Id say the Yankees are the most hated/scrutizined team in baseball, not just from a Sox fan's perspective

[Cityofchampions33]

Continue to allow the media to sway your mind. You hate one guy who used steriods who, by the way, did them when they were not against baseball rules, and was probably one of thousands who were injecting steriods.

 

I care ZERO whether Barry Bonds used steriods or not. I also care ZERO whether or not he is an *******. I don't play with the guy, it does not bother me.

 

I do care whether or not the Red Sox field a competitive team. Barry Bonds, allows the Red Sox to field one of the most optimal lineups in MLB history. You cannot deny that Barry Bonds would represent a huge boost for the Red Sox in their chase to win a World Series.

 

Show Barry how much Boston has changed. After all, Boston is probably one of the most liberal cities in the United States. The city is still racist? I doubt it. If Barry Bonds has one ounce of common sense in him, he'll probably realize it too.

 

If we sign Bonds to play DH, he'll likely get 150 games in. He won't have to worry about the rigors of playing LF everyday, which should keep him fresh.

 

Okay, even though this is a non-issue, because he's not coming here, it's not even because he took steroids, Sheffield took steroids and Id rather have him. Bonds, however, makes Sheffield's whining look like a kid who just cut his knee. If you read Game of Shadows, it doesn't just talk about steroids, it talks about how he acts to everyone around him. In the clubhouse he has an entire section for himself, a lounge chair for himself, a TV, 3 lockers, and more. He threatens his girlfriends, pisses off all his teammates, and blames the media for it. Not to mention he wasn't even as big of an offensive threat last year like he was the years before. I think I'll pass.

[Papelbon58]

Read game of Shadows then tell me that you want to sign barry Bonds' date=' plus where on earth would he play?[/quote']

 

that influenced my answer, I finished Game of Shadows 2 days ago

[Soxfan1]

There's a slight difference. Manny Ramirez, may have quit on the team. Barry Bonds is just a prick, and in Major League Baseball, there are a lot of those. He just happens to have the camera in his face the whole time.

 

Bonds may be an ass, but he didn't stop the Giants from going to Game 7 of the World Series, a series they should have won.

 

Sure, the media may be out in full force in Boston, but is it really going to be much different? The Red Sox are already the most scrutinized team in baseball, this shouldn't be too much a problem.

No to mention, the red sox FO got sick of his attitude because we've spent to long with Manny. Bonds would be a one year deal if anything.

 

 

I would like to see Papi at first. Shut up the "No DH for MVP" people.

[CrespoBlows]

Okay' date=' even though this is a non-issue, because he's not coming here, it's not even because he took steroids, Sheffield took steroids and Id rather have him. Bonds, however, makes Sheffield's whining look like a kid who just cut his knee. If you read Game of Shadows, it doesn't just talk about steroids, it talks about how he acts to everyone around him. In the clubhouse he has an entire section for himself, a lounge chair for himself, a TV, 3 lockers, and more. He threatens his girlfriends, pisses off all his teammates, and blames the media for it. [/quote']

 

Why should I care what Game of Shadows says? I read the book, I thought it was extremely disappointing. Bonds is on the cover, yet they mention him less than 25% of the time.

 

Besides, Bonds' surliness is going to do what? How is it going to hurt the team? It didn't stop Jeff Kent from setting career highs in San Fran, it didn't stop Rich Aurilla from hitting 37 HR's. How exactly does Bonds being grumpy hurt the Red Sox? If what you are saying is true, then the surliness of Bonds would have crippled the Giants, correct?

 

 

Not to mention he wasn't even as big of an offensive threat last year like he was the years before. I think I'll pass.

 

Yeah, that 1.000 OPS really sucked last year.

[a700hitter]

It would be a special 3,4,5 of Manny, Ortiz and Bonds. It would be difficult to pitch around all three of them.

[CrespoBlows]

It would be a special 3' date='4,5 of Manny, Ortiz and Bonds. It would be difficult to pitch around all three of them.[/quote']

 

NO!!!!! HE'S MEANNNN!!!!!!

[Cityofchampions33]

How does it hurt the team? I don't know, it most likely would, but it also could not. He'd be a personality to throw upon personalities (and we thought Manny was bad), he'd probably be traded by mid-season because no one likes him (could you imagine a Sox being booed like a Yankee at home?), and then he'd make a big scene about it and cause distraction for everyone else in the rginization.

I'm not trying to sell the god damn book you just brought it up again and I specified my statement about it, and I don't give a s*** if you don't care about the book. No, his 1.000 OPS didn't suck, but his age is gettin close ot that number, all his stats are down, and his health continues to be a question.

But whatever, if you want to keep goin on about someting thats not happening anyway (due to the fact that Bonds is a prick and wants to judge this fine city of Boston for how it used to be a few years ago) then go ahead, but I don't want to waste my time.

[CrespoBlows]

How does it hurt the team? I don't know' date=' it most likely would, but it also could not. He'd be a personality to throw upon personalities (and we thought Manny was bad), he'd probably be traded by mid-season because no one likes him (could you imagine a Sox being booed like a Yankee at home?), and then he'd make a big scene about it and cause distraction for everyone else in the rginization.[/quote']

 

He'd be traded mid-season? That's just stupid. If Barry Bonds was hitting .300 with 20 bombs at the all-star break, you would be clamoring to trade him? Unlikely. Remember when Manny Ramirez, literally quit on the team back in July 2005? His first AB back, he got a rousing standing ovation. Funny what happens when you produce.

 

I'm not trying to sell the god damn book you just brought it up again and I specified my statement about it, and I don't give a s*** if you don't care about the book.

 

I didn't bring it up. You did to prove a point.

 

Anyway, isn't it funny how those guys refuse to name their sources? Yeah, they'll need another piece of evidence from someone close to Greg Anderson. Weak. These guys are out to make a buck.

 

 

No, his 1.000 OPS didn't suck, but his age is gettin close ot that number, all his stats are down, and his health continues to be a question.

 

Which is exactly why playing DH, will help him out. Even if he puts up a .950 OPS, he's still in the top echelon of hitters in the game.

 

But whatever, if you want to keep goin on about someting thats not happening anyway (due to the fact that Bonds is a prick and wants to judge this fine city of Boston for how it used to be a few years ago) then go ahead, but I don't want to waste my time.

 

It's a message board, which means we can all bring up a free flow of ideas, if you don't like it, quit responding, but I'm sure there are other people who would like talk about the possiblity of Barry Bonds in Boston.

 

Oh, and knock it off with the condescending responses.

[example1]

I am pretty sure that Bonds is not the direction this team is heading toward right now. Perhaps its just me, but I can't see the Sox purposly taking on a contract of a slow, oft-injured LF option when they already have a DH who can't play the field and would need to spell bonds on a regular basis.

 

 

Why should I care what Game of Shadows says? I read the book, I thought it was extremely disappointing. Bonds is on the cover, yet they mention him less than 25% of the time.

 

So none of what you read bothered you? Your only criticism is that it doesn't have enough Bonds? It seems strange to critique a book of that bredth for not focusing on Bonds enough, especially because the entire book explains the BALCO scandal which directly relates to Barry Bonds. So by extension (and not an extreme one at that) the entire book is about Bonds. I'm pretty sure that he's only a symptom of a much larger problem. Personally, I read that book and I thought it was the best explanation of BALCO that I have seen. Yes, Barry only comes in and out of the BALCO scandal, he's not the main person in it.

 

Disappointed or not I do hope that some of Bonds' clubhouse antics have made their way into your mind. If we think Manny silently taking days off is annoying wait until the daily media sessions as he approaches Aaron's record, the speculation about whether it is proper for the Sox to have paid 15m for another enormous roid user who is challenging baseball's most cherished record. Every time with that Sox logo behind his head, the bling and the defensiveness... no thanks.

[CrespoBlows]

I am pretty sure that Bonds is not the direction this team is heading toward right now. Perhaps its just me' date=' but I can't see the Sox purposly taking on a contract of a slow, oft-injured LF option when they already have a DH who can't play the field and would need to spell bonds on a regular basis.[/quote']

 

Ortiz can play the field, just not very good. The Phillies were able to get away with having Ryan Howard at 1B for 162 games, I'm sure the Red Sox could too. Bonds would only be a one or two year deal, so even if he does get hurt, it won't be a horrible burden on the team.

 

So none of what you read bothered you? Your only criticism is that it doesn't have enough Bonds? It seems strange to critique a book of that bredth for not focusing on Bonds enough, especially because the entire book explains the BALCO scandal which directly relates to Barry Bonds. So by extension (and not an extreme one at that) the entire book is about Bonds. I'm pretty sure that he's only a symptom of a much larger problem. Personally, I read that book and I thought it was the best explanation of BALCO that I have seen. Yes, Barry only comes in and out of the BALCO scandal, he's not the main person in it.

 

They put Bonds on the cover, they hype the book up based on the fact that they have evidence on Barry Bonds using steriods. Hell, even SI wrote an article about Barry Bonds and the book. Yet, when I opened the book, I read about how Victor Conte called people NOOBS on an steriod internet forum. Bonds was supposed to be the main subject, he wasn't. That was disappointing.

 

BALCO has a very, very, very, small link to Barry Bonds. He's one chain in that link.

 

As for the book bothering me, not really. I really could care less what Bonds puts into his body, neither should Congress for that matter.

 

Disappointed or not I do hope that some of Bonds' clubhouse antics have made their way into your mind.

 

This year, Barry Bonds looked like a good teammate. I don't know if there were any blowups, but no one reported anything. (Which should be impossible to miss, because ESPN assigned a reporter)

 

 

If we think Manny silently taking days off is annoying wait until the daily media sessions as he approaches Aaron's record

 

Why exactly is it annoying? And really, you'd think the Red Sox players would be able to adjust to constant media attention. Look at the situation, now.

 

the speculation about whether it is proper for the Sox to have paid 15m for another enormous roid user who is challenging baseball's most cherished record. Every time with that Sox logo behind his head, the bling and the defensiveness... no thanks.

 

Barry Bonds took steriods when there was no rule against it. Most players say that up to 50% of baseball players use steriods. Why is Bonds the only one who gets blasted?

 

Look, love Barry Bonds or hate him, (I think he's a dick) but the guy can flat-out hit a baseball. With Bonds on this team, the Red Sox immediately become a playoff contender. A little fixing up with the bullpen, and this team is a World Series contender.

 

So, go ahead, try to convince yourselves that Wily Mo Pena will hit 40 HR's. I'll take the sure thing.

[Cityofchampions33]

He'd be traded mid-season? That's just stupid. If Barry Bonds was hitting .300 with 20 bombs at the all-star break' date=' you would be clamoring to trade him? Unlikely. Remember when Manny Ramirez, literally quit on the team back in July 2005? His first AB back, he got a rousing standing ovation. Funny what happens when you produce.[/quote']

 

Yeah, but Manny doesn't throw wood into the fire by making unneeded comments that distract the entire team when he's unhappy. Bonds would be fine here, but then once he gets ticked off, it's all over. And I take it it wouldn't have to be a huge thing to get him pissed.

 

I didn't bring it up. You did to prove a point. Anyway, isn't it funny how those guys refuse to name their sources? Yeah, they'll need another piece of evidence from someone close to Greg Anderson. Weak. These guys are out to make a buck.

 

You obviously did not read the book, you said they mentioned him less than 25% of the time, when the book was about him, they ahd differents ections in the book based on different parts of his life.

 

 

Which is exactly why playing DH, will help him out. Even if he puts up a .950 OPS, he's still in the top echelon of hitters in the game.

 

I'm not disputing his talent, but he's not what he was 3 years ago. He'd have to adjust to pitchers in the AL, knowing him he'll sit out just to spite Terry or soemthing prickish like that.

 

It's a message board, which means we can all bring up a free flow of ideas, if you don't like it, quit responding, but I'm sure there are other people who would like talk about the possiblity of Barry Bonds in Boston.

 

Yeah, it is an interesting idea having Bonds come here, but your talking about it as if it's 50-50, first you'd have to get past that he thinks we're racist, you'd have to convince the FO to inject some cancer into the clubhouse, you'd have to have Terry deal with even more headaches, and to learn how to juggle everyone.

 

Oh, and knock it off with the condescending responses.

 

Back at you compadre

[Gom]

If the Red Sox were going to scoop up Sheffield, like I read everywhere, why not get Bonds? Same difference for the most part. A one or two year deal isn't that out of the question.

[example1]

If the Red Sox were going to scoop up Sheffield' date=' like I read everywhere, why not get Bonds? Same difference for the most part. A one or two year deal isn't that out of the question.[/quote']

 

I don't like either of these *******s. I guess I prefer to win with integrity while others prefer to win at all costs. C'est la vie.

 

Crespo: saying game of shadows isn't about Bonds is like saying Moneyball isn't about baseball. It doesn't deal with the minutae of Bonds' every day life but it still deals with him as an example of the problem in general.

 

The fact is that Bonds, along wth lots of other people, cheated. We don't know when it started and we don't know what it implies as far as records at such. We do know that its unfair and I DO care about it as I think it ruins the integrity of baseball if left unchecked. I'm willing to accept its shady past if we can correct the future.

 

Personally I think Bonds and Gambi are the most despicable people in baseball. Think about whatever profession you work in: how would you feel if you knew that the highest paid people in your profession, people you work closely with and compete with on a daily basis for respect, were cheating. And not just the nickle and dimed stuff, but the "I'll clean your urine so you don't get caught" stuff. Giambi is still juicing for christsakes and nobody worries about it or argues it.

 

So now baseball is a matter of who has the best drugs. You think its fine that Barry takes 15 pills 3 times a day, or that he's taking ant-narcolepcy drugs an hour before the game so he's jacked up like a nobel-prize winning meth-head with the reactions of Babe Ruth to start with. It's cheating. Giambi has personally screwed the red sox with some of his roided production in very recent memory (last season) and so I don't want to either sit passively by and give him a free pass or actively seek somebody who did it even MORE blatently and to a larger degree of success than Giambi. For 15 million a year I say no thanks.

[Gom]

I wouldn't be surprised if Papi was juicing, or Schilling, or pretty much anyone. You can say the Yankees win the 2001 WS if Gonzo wasn't juicing. Who knows, maybe Clemens was juicing.

 

People cheat in real life all the time. Taxes, speeding, embezzling, insider trading. I'm not condoning this in any other way, but someone always looks to get an unfair advantage. It's just life.

[MANNYHOF24]

you can say the redsox win the 03 ALCS if Giambi wasnt juicing

[SuperManny]

I wouldn't want Bonds on the Sox because I don't think the team needs to expand from a 3 ring circus that it already is into a 7 ring circus it would be with Bonds. The Sox already have enough media scrutiny without adding the guy that everyone hates. That said I would rather have Bonds than Sheffield. I just really really hate Sheffield on so many levels. Bonds never intentionally screwed over his own teammates on the field. That alone is one reason I would never root for Sheffield. If the Sox somehow got Sheff (which isn't going to happen anyways since the Yanks are going to pick up the option) I would have a hard time rooting for the Sox to be honest.

 

As for the steroids, everyone in baseball was cheating and I never understood why everyone took it out on Bonds.

[a700hitter]

you can say the redsox win the 03 ALCS if Giambi wasnt juicing

Definitely. Not too many guys take Pedro deep twice when he throwing that well.

[SuperManny]

Definitely. Not too many guys take Pedro deep twice when he throwing that well.

 

Now theres something we agree on. I hate Giambi too, although more so because he plays for the Yankees and looks like a tool ever since he became a Yankee. He was the man in Oakland with long hair and tatoos and he goes to the Yankees and he looks like a sped.