Aramis Ramirez to hit the open market after this season?

[riverside sluggers]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

 

mlbtraderumors, so of course take it with a grain of salt. Now he says his first choice is going to New York, but as we know both New York teams are pretty much set at 3rd base.

 

A crapshoot dream for Sox to nab him yes, but that would be eventful.

[jsinger121]

He is a guy that I would definitely look to get as the bat to protect manny.

[Mr Crunchy]

the yanks have a 3rd basemen but are they really set??

[RoyNHSox]

Given the strong Dominican presence on the team, maybe he could be persuaded to come to Boston.

[rician blast]

Given the strong Dominican presence on the team, maybe he could be persuaded to come to Boston.

 

maybe.

 

or will Aramis be singing that 70's hit "Please come to Boston":

 

Please come to Boston to play for Tito,

The team has no pitching, but we could use your bat,

We trade away starters for fifth outfielders,

But the Front Office says they're going for a title soon,

 

Please come to Boston, he just said no,

I think there's better places to be.

[RoyNHSox]

maybe.

 

or will Aramis be singing that 70's hit "Please come to Boston":

 

Please come to Boston to play for Tito,

The team has no pitching, but we could use your bat,

We trade away starters for fifth outfielders,

But the Front Office says they're going for a title soon,

 

Please come to Boston, he just said no,

I think there's better places to be.

 

I’m not sure if your post was meant to point out that pitching should be a priority instead, but if so, why should improving the offense be neglected? The team is clearly deficient in both areas. A Papi-Manny-Aramis 3, 4, 5 would be awesome.

[riverside sluggers]

I’m not sure if your post was meant to point out that pitching should be a priority instead, but if so, why should improving the offense be neglected? The team is clearly deficient in both areas. A Papi-Manny-Aramis 3, 4, 5 would be awesome.

 

Mike Lowell will also be entering his contract/age 35 season, whats the harm in acquiring a 29 year old pure sluggling 3rd baseman for 4 or 5 years? If said is actually possible, I can see Theo being crafty and still acquiring some good arms. Via trade like using Lowell as bait & using whats left of the available sources

[Cityofchampions33]

Yeah, besides the pitching we need, we've also needed a solid 5th bat all season, and no one has stepped up to protect Manny. Youk belong's in the 2nd spot, Pena needs time, Varitek is here for defense, and Lowell's just not hittin jacks anymore.

 

Crisp

Youkilis

Ortiz

M. Ramirez

A. Ramirez

Pena

Varitek

Pedroia

Gonzalez

 

That's a pretty good lineup, but very top heavy, assuming we don't get the same season from Gonzalez, and Pedroia needing experience.

[rician blast]

I’m not sure if your post was meant to point out that pitching should be a priority instead, but if so, why should improving the offense be neglected? The team is clearly deficient in both areas. A Papi-Manny-Aramis 3, 4, 5 would be awesome.

 

saw a thing on ESPN about him saying he wants to go to a contender.

 

my point was the Sox are not a contender without better pitching...thus if the guy is true to his word, he could opt to go elsewhere based upon the direction various teams seem to be going.

 

of course we've seen how guys say one thing and do another..i.e. Clemens (I wanna play closer to home) going to Toronto a few years back.

[riverside sluggers]

Injuries were the main cause for the Sox to freefall in the 2nd half. Now I am nowhere near counting the Sox out of the playoffs for 2007. On the free agent market for 07 the Sox are said to have high on their list: Julio Lugo, Matsuzaka, Jason Schmidt.

 

They might also take a flyer on Eric Gagne to assure Papelbon is placed in the rotation which would really solidify the starting staff. There is other good relief pitchers they could get through trade & free agency, i.e. Justin Speier of the Blue Jays

[schillingouttheks]

Wouldn't mind them signing Francisco Cordero to set up for our closer in '07. I wouldn't mind signing Meche either, and watching Lester develop out of the bullpen (Breslow and Lester would be nice to have as lefties).

[38,804 Blue Seats]

I wouldn't mind if pigs flew out of Theo's ass either

[ksushi]

The only place I have heard that the Sox are after Lugo is here. Lugo has had some run ins with the cops and some domestic violence problems and the fact that he isn't that great a defender makes me think he isn't in the sox plans at all. I will be very surprised if he signs in Boston. I think the sox want strong defense at shortstop and thats why I think A-Gon will likely be back. If the Angels want to unload Cabrera to make room for Wood, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox were in on that.

 

OuttheK's, Cordero is one of a couple guys I hope the sox bring in for the pen. That would be huge. I don't think Lester is in their 07 plans, if he does come back I don't think it will be as anything but a starter. I like Breslow a lot too.

 

The sox have to be in on a big time starter this offseason and maybe Meche too. There is absolutely no excuse for bombing two years in a row. They can absolutely be a contender next season. With Lester out of the picture though, I think it will mean the FO might have to spend more.

[riverside sluggers]

Gordon Edes, Nick Carfardo, Buster Olney, Tony Masarotti, and Ken Rosenthal have all said that the Sox still highly covet Lugo and will try to go hard for him this offseason.

[ksushi]

I don't buy it. I don't see him being their guy at all. Why spend more money on a lesser defensive shortstop when you can spend some of that money on a real problem like pitching and save a little bringing A-gon back in. The FO has made careless moves, they're not that careless. Unless they plan on really throwing a lot of money around this offseason, I don't see him being their guy at all.

[a700hitter]

I don't buy it. I don't see him being their guy at all. Why spend more money on a lesser defensive shortstop when you can spend some of that money on a real problem like pitching and save a little bringing A-gon back in. The FO has made careless moves, they're not that careless. Unless they plan on really throwing a lot of money around this offseason, I don't see him being their guy at all.

I agree with you that Lugo doesn't fit with this team and that he is not that good, but all indications from inside sources are that the Sox FO is pursuing him.

[ksushi]

I don't know, the FO is very tight lipped about their business now. I think that might be speculation drawn from the fact that they've inquired about him a couple times now, I think if they had the choice, A-Gon would be preferred. I love A-Gon.

 

What I want to know is how much the Sox are willing to spend to bring in pitching this off season. The past two off seasons they've gone the cheap route. Its time to pay top dollar for some quality arms.

[schillingouttheks]

I don't know, the FO is very tight lipped about their business now. I think that might be speculation drawn from the fact that they've inquired about him a couple times now, I think if they had the choice, A-Gon would be preferred. I love A-Gon.

 

What I want to know is how much the Sox are willing to spend to bring in pitching this off season. The past two off seasons they've gone the cheap route. Its time to pay top dollar for some quality arms.

If they go after Lugo, with the money he's going to want, they won't be able to bring in the arms that we need.

[ksushi]

Exactly. I don't see them going after lugo. We need pitching not a 25 error a season short stop who hits for a little more pop.

[a700hitter]

We are all agreed on this. Hopefully, the FO is of the same mind.

[ksushi]

I just think there is no reason why the Sox shouldn't be very competitive next year. We have the framework of an awesome team. Best closer in baseball, good 1-2 with Beckett and Schilling, great defense, and manny and ortiz. We have a lot going for us. We need to fill in this pitching staff some more and upgrade CF possibly.

[example1]

I just think there is no reason why the Sox shouldn't be very competitive next year. We have the framework of an awesome team. Best closer in baseball, good 1-2 with Beckett and Schilling, great defense, and manny and ortiz. We have a lot going for us. We need to fill in this pitching staff some more and upgrade CF possibly.

 

This team would be in a good position with another quality arm. They need to allow Beckett to be a #3 battling for a #1 position like he was in FLA. Early this season he and Schilling had a good back-and-forth going. A schmidt or Zito or someone else in that category would be nice. I would prefer they try to get Schmidt. That would allow Wake to be a #4 and Clement to be a #5. Clement isn't great, but he's an average pitcher against the stronger AL lineups. If he had been pitching in Wells' spot this year the Sox would have been better off. I know he's not that good, but c'mon! Between Kyle Snyder, Jason Johnson, Kason Gabbard, etc., there are a lot of starts where I would take Clement. I'm willing to bet that the Sox keep Clement now; especially since (although he has been effective) Snyder is a question-mark and Lester is physically a question-mark.

The Sox need probably 3 starting pitchers who are not in the lineup currently. One is Wakefield, the second is (hopefully) the quality SP mentioned above, and the third available one is likely no better than Clement.

 

The other thing this team needs badly is a strong #5 hitter. I would be in favor of getting Aramis Ramirez and paying part of Lowell's salary to move him. Hopefully the idea of "spending more intelligently" includes SOME space for intelligent upgrades that benefit the team over the long term.

 

The biggest question for me is what to do with Coco. Should he be included in a deal attempting to get a last-year contract guy? (Andruw Jones/V. Wells/R. Oswalt (one) for Hansen, Crisp and Delcarmen?.. something like that). Should they stick with him? His arm and relatively poor CF defense keeps this team from being a truly subperb defensive team but it seems adequate if he can hit and score runs like a good leadoff hitter should.

 

A lot of question marks.

[riverside sluggers]

How do you think the Sox are going to give Clement another chance? Clement was pitching in Wells' spot through the time poor Matty got a boo-boo and was horrendous. Worst ERA for any starting pitcher since All-Star Break of 2005 to time he got injured

 

Sox cant trust him in any big game. 2nd half implosion pitcher, not a pitcher you want in the playoffs (worst start for any Sox pitcher in the ALDS anyone?). Clement was starting to make some progress in August, but Sox instead to shut him down. When reporters would ask about status of his coming back, Tito or Theo would quickly change subject

 

Im sorry I just never have liked the signing of Clement, even during the hot start he had in Boston. It would be a joke if he were still in a Sox uni next season. All indications from papers I have read is that the Sox would be willing to buy out his contract if necessary.

 

And you can count out hopes of getting Roy Oswalt. The Astros just resigned him to a 5 year/$73 million. The Blue Jays hardly would trade their best slugger to the rival Red Sox when they are trying to make themselves a playoff type team. IMO since its the Red Sox, J.P. Riccardi would ask for wayyy more than a package of Crisp, Hansen & Delcarmen

[jsinger121]

With Lester likely looking to be out for 2007 the Red Sox may have no choice but to keep matt clement now.

[MC Hammer]

I agree with you that Lugo doesn't fit with this team and that he is not that good, but all indications from inside sources are that the Sox FO is pursuing him.

I guess they're giving up on being able to play defense ... I mean they gave it a whole year . I can't wait to watch a whole season of ground balls rolling through the legs of one of the worst fielders in baseball. Hopefully those extra 10 HRs he's gonna bring us will please the FO.

[MC Hammer]

With Lester likely looking to be out for 2007 the Red Sox may have no choice but to keep matt clement now.

Well I don't think there's any way we're going to be able to trade him.

 

Personally I'd rather let anyone else start the season in the rotation than let Clement anywhere near the dugout.

[a700hitter]

Well I don't think there's any way we're going to be able to trade him.

 

Personally I'd rather let anyone else start the season in the rotation than let Clement anywhere near the dugout.

They could rid themselves of him if the are willing to eat most of his salary. I think they should dump him. He's useless to the Red Sox.

[MC Hammer]

They could rid themselves of him if the are willing to eat most of his salary. I think they should dump him. He's useless to the Red Sox.

I agree, if we're able to move him at any cost I'm for it.

[Mr Crunchy]

matt clement

no real injury to speak of outside his balls being missing

hopefully his lack of courage dont rub off on anyone else

 

amazing

you got a dilapatated david wells who breaks his balls at the age of 43 to pitch for us,a team and a city that he hates and on the other hand you have the face of matt clement,complete with the vaginal hair on his chin like so many homosexuals are wearing these days...unable and unwilling to compete

 

f*** him

hes cancer

 

lots of dead weight on next years payroll

[AirPantapas]

I could see Aram going to the Phillies, he would be perfect for them.