August 22nd vs Anaheim

[MANNYHOF24]

Yanks lose 6-5 on Beltre walkoff' date=' Sox lose no ground in anything.[/quote']

 

holy s*** we could have gained ground on every tonight what a crushing loss.

[RoyNHSox]

The only good from this game is that Pedroia made his ML debut and got his first hit. The rest was same s***, different day.

[riverside sluggers]

holy s*** we could have gained ground on every tonight what a crushing loss.

 

Its not like it matters any... This team is just an avalanche cascading down the mountain

 

The competition for the wild card are the White Sox, Twins, & Angels or Athletics. Those teams are above & beyond what this Sox team is representing

 

Wakefield has been pushed back again, maybe he can be back in early September now

 

Jon Lester vs Kelvim Escobar... blah

Josh Beckett vs Jered Weaver... blah (wont be surprised if sox get swept again to make it an 8 game losing streak)

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I only watched today's game at work really because I knew it was Pedroia's major league debut. Cheers to his first of many major league hits

[jsinger121]

holy s*** we could have gained ground on every tonight what a crushing loss.

 

As riverside said it won't even matter. This team is too flawed and too injured to play in October.

[Sox fan in Tex]

Did NESN give any update about Varitek, by chance? The last time I heard, he was making the trip to the west coast, but is still about a week and a half away from coming back.

[jsinger121]

Did NESN give any update about Varitek, by chance? The last time I heard, he was making the trip to the west coast, but is still about a week and a half away from coming back.

 

Don't think so. Even if he is 2 weeks away if this team is done by then I don't want him to come back this year and rather just have him take the rest of the year off.

[yeszir]

"Not losing ground" is not what we want to do right now. We want to gain ground. That's my anaylsys.

[rician blast]

Damn, every time I see Wily Mo I feel better about the trade that brought him here...way to get picked off last night in a key spot...dumb ass.

[jsinger121]

Damn, every time I see Wily Mo I feel better about the trade that brought him here...way to get picked off last night in a key spot...dumb ass.

 

Putting the blame solely on him is stupid and dumb.

[rician blast]

Putting the blame solely on him is stupid and dumb.

 

You are right, putting the blame on him solely would not be smart...of course that's precisely why I did not blame him.

 

Q: Did I state that the Red Sox lost because of that play?

A: No!

Don't over analyze statements and take them in a direction that they're clearly not going.

 

All I said is way to get picked off...and that he's not making the trade look any better. Period.

[RoyNHSox]

Putting the blame solely on him is stupid and dumb.

 

I agree, it's kind of a myopic way to look at things. If any other player did the same thing nothing would be said.

[Cocos Disciples]

Putting the blame solely on him is stupid and dumb.

 

Isn't that kind of redundantly repititive?

[rician blast]

I agree, it's kind of a myopic way to look at things. If any other player did the same thing nothing would be said.

 

righto, Roy.

 

just for the record, as I explained in my previous post, i didn't BLAME him for the loss.

 

me thinks y'all need to read posts closer.

[riverside sluggers]

You are right, putting the blame on him solely would not be smart...of course that's precisely why I did not blame him.

 

Q: Did I state that the Red Sox lost because of that play?

A: No!

Don't over analyze statements and take them in a direction that they're clearly not going.

 

All I said is way to get picked off...and that he's not making the trade look any better. Period.

 

He's not making the trade look any better because he got picked off? alrighty. Really enough of this crying about losing a 5th starter for a slugger who could have a long mainstay in Boston and is just 24 years of age

 

Sorry it just bursts your bubble but Wily Mo will be the starting right fielder

Parlay his stats this year into a full 162 game season-- .310 avg, 25-30 HRs, 100-110 RBIs, 75-85 Runs

[RoyNHSox]

righto, Roy.

 

just for the record, as I explained in my previous post, i didn't BLAME him for the loss.

 

me thinks y'all need to read posts closer.

 

In all honesty, if any other player got picked off would you even mention it?

[ORS]

The guy didn't play too hot in the Yankee series, but he's got company there. Since the china doll went down in RF, he's been one of the best producers.

 

Rician, I understand why the crew is getting upset with you. Everyone is clear on your stance regarding the trade, but you don't give WMP credit for the good things he's done; you only chime in when he makes a mistake.

[rician blast]

In all honesty, if any other player got picked off would you even mention it?

 

let's be clear about a few things then move on...I didn't and still don't like the Wily Mo trade...I hope he ends up making the trade look great in the future. Yes I know Arroyo wasn't going to lead the Sox to a WS title, as I've said before he is what he is...an inning eating, serviceable 3rd or 4th starter. I just don't like trading a reasonably reliable starting pitcher, especially one who took a home town discount, for a potential future RF.

Others disagree and think the trade is a good one? Fine, we all have our own points of view. OK, that's done.

 

Now to answer your question:

 

yes I would blast whomever got picked, because I understand the situation.

 

No outs.

Lead-off guy on first.

3-2 count, and your going to be running.

 

You are not trying to steal the base...you are trying to stay out of a double play and potentially go to third on a hit or score on a double...so you don't need to get a tremendous jump.

 

The baseball "law" on that play is DO NOT GET PICKED OFF.

I can't make excuses for the guy or let him off the hook. He fkd up.

[Mr Crunchy]

He's not making the trade look any better because he got picked off? alrighty. Really enough of this crying about losing a 5th starter for a slugger who could have a long mainstay in Boston and is just 24 years of age

 

Sorry it just bursts your bubble but Wily Mo will be the starting right fielder

Parlay his stats this year into a full 162 game season-- .310 avg, 25-30 HRs, 100-110 RBIs, 75-85 Runs

 

how many k's does this parlay into??

when your k total is 10xs that of your homerun total??

i for 1 am extremely excited

he could be another sam horn or even a phil plantier if he plays his cards right

[Cocos Disciples]

how many k's does this parlay into??

when your k total is 10xs that of your homerun total??

i for 1 am extremely excited

he could be another sam horn or even a phil plantier if he plays his cards right

 

That's a lot of K's, around 300.Unlikely.

[riverside sluggers]

Around 150-160 Ks (avg season for Arod), which no would not be 10x his homerun total

 

When he starts having 40 HR seasons, it will only be a footnote of how may times he has struck out. Maybe you & rician blast can start up your own site to complain, while all of us here will actually be cheering him on.

[ORS]

Around 150-160 Ks (avg season for Arod), which no would not be 10x his homerun total

 

When he starts having 40 HR seasons, it will only be a footnote of how may times he has struck out. Maybe you & rician blast can start up your own site to complain, while all of us here will actually be cheering him on.

That's a bit much. Message boards are places to share opinions, and not everyone will share the same one. They are respectful of other members, just not Yankee fans - but who cares about that?, and as long as they remain that way, nobody should be suggesting they leave. Here's an idea, discuss the topic instead of telling dissenters to take a hike.

[rician blast]

Around 150-160 Ks (avg season for Arod), which no would not be 10x his homerun total

 

When he starts having 40 HR seasons, it will only be a footnote of how may times he has struck out. Maybe you & rician blast can start up your own site to complain, while all of us here will actually be cheering him on.

 

 

Jeez, you all told me I was beating a dead horse so I made a final statement...I was not in favor of the trade...but I did say I hoped WMP would prove the trade to be a good one...but now who can't let it go?

 

One more time for those struggling with the concept. I didn't like the trade, but I hope it pays off. I have nothing against WMP, and I will cheer him as you will. I do appreciate the pop he has shown...I do also have some concern about his plate discipline and ability to hit breaking balls, especially those away. Hopefully he works that out.

 

last night he made a play I wouldn't expect from my 14 yr old and I called him out on it. And I'd have said the same thing if it was Manny or Lowell or Pedroia or anyone else.

 

if you view the play objectively you can't possibly tell me it wasn't a major fuk up. As ORS suggests, let's stick to the point of my post, which was the play itself.

[Mr Crunchy]

Around 150-160 Ks (avg season for Arod), which no would not be 10x his homerun total

 

When he starts having 40 HR seasons, it will only be a footnote of how may times he has struck out. Maybe you & rician blast can start up your own site to complain, while all of us here will actually be cheering him on.

 

when he starts having 40hr seasons he'll probably be playing in tokyo or tijuana

 

i tend to call spades spades

im not questioning his ability to hit rockets,impressive line shots and towering homers

im questioning his ability to hit good pitching consistantly

and im questioning his plate discipline and im questioning his ability to play right field in fenway

everyone who understands the simplest part of the game is too

 

i appreciate your wild enthusiams over wily mo and i hope youre correct in your bold assessments

however

i didnt know this was a sox ballwashing forum

i thought this was an open forum that deals in reality

and the reality is

we dont know what wily mo pena is going to do next season or in 10 years do we

 

what we do know is he is a strike out machine and hits some rockets

hes played well in nixons absence,better than advertised as far as im concerned

hes also a career .250 hitter who would break the strike out record if given 600abs

please correct me if im wrong on any of these #s

 

arroyo is on pace for 230 innings

instead of him pitching 230 innings here??

we got jj johnson,dee snyder,lenny dinando and some other f*** bags throwing instead

oh fukin joy

david pauley got called up now??

did i mention how badly this taxed our bullpen along the way?

 

how many games have we surrendered because of this??

nevermind

its not that important to you as long as wily mo can rip those lazers and cool off the park with those tremendous swings and misses

[RedSoxRooter]

when he starts having 40hr seasons he'll probably be playing in tokyo or tijuana

 

i tend to call spades spades

im not questioning his ability to hit rockets,impressive line shots and towering homers

im questioning his ability to hit good pitching consistantly

and im questioning his plate discipline and im questioning his ability to play right field in fenway

everyone who understands the simplest part of the game is too

 

i appreciate your wild enthusiams over wily mo and i hope youre correct in your bold assessments

however

i didnt know this was a sox ballwashing forum

i thought this was an open forum that deals in reality

and the reality is

we dont know what wily mo pena is going to do next season or in 10 years do we

 

what we do know is he is a strike out machine and hits some rockets

hes played well in nixons absence,better than advertised as far as im concerned

hes also a career .250 hitter who would break the strike out record if given 600abs

please correct me if im wrong on any of these #s

 

arroyo is on pace for 230 innings

instead of him pitching 230 innings here??

we got jj johnson,dee snyder,lenny dinando and some other f*** bags throwing instead

oh fukin joy

david pauley got called up now??

did i mention how badly this taxed our bullpen along the way?

 

how many games have we surrendered because of this??

nevermind

its not that important to you as long as wily mo can rip those lazers and cool off the park with those tremendous swings and misses

 

Wait, so you were not in favor of the trade??? This makes sense now.. I didn't get your point the first 9,000 times you posted it.

 

Just to be clear next time, please include "for the record, I was never in favor of this trade" in the first and last line of each of your posts. That way we wouldn't have to read the rant that goes on in between.

[Mr Crunchy]

i was making a point about wily mo

did you care to counter any of my points or simply bust my balls miss wookie??