August 8th @ Kansas City

[noonanberg]

and this is when i turn off the game

[RoyNHSox]

The bullpen pours more gas on the fire. Thanks Rudy.

[a700hitter]

Guys' date=' this is ridiculous. We're giving up on Lester already? We're giving up on Hansen already? It's one game, they'll bounce back, they'll develop.[/quote']They should be developing in the minors or getting their feet wet as a 5th bull pen option, not as key role players in a penant race.

[Cocos Disciples]

Is Rudy Seanez and Julian Tavarez still on this team??

 

Secretly under contract for the Yankees.

[jacksonianmarch]

Rudy Seanez should be hired for the HR derby, but he should pitch with all his might. They would still be hitting in Pittsburgh if that was the case.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I doubt it would do him much better in the minors. You still pitch a game like you would up here. Let him get used to the seen in Boston and get him the experience. Its not like he is having a terrible time up in the majors. s*** he's 5-1 with an ERA under 4.00

 

....he's hanging in there but its the fact he is on the Red Sox and not throwing shut outs that people are getting on him. Who gives a damn the rest of this team blows. I don't necessarily fault the young guys....Timlin, Foulke, Clement, Wells, Wakefield, Beckett, Varitek, Nixon......injuries and players underperforming is the problem.

Maybe your right. Maybe at the end of the day Lester isnt hurt either way. It certainly helps that Lester isnt being destroyed on this level. The only thing is in the minors you are allowed to focus on certain parts of your game and when your in the majors your really not able to.

[Cocos Disciples]

They should be developing in the minors or getting their feet wet as a 5th bull pen option, not as key role players in a penant race.

 

Do they learn s*** coming in the same time Seanez comes in? Do we prosper having Seanez coming in when they would? Put 'em in the water, don't pussy 'em.

[BoSox34]

and this is when i turn off the game

 

and that is how you can tell a fairweather fan from a true fan.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

They should be developing in the minors or getting their feet wet as a 5th bull pen option, not as key role players in a penant race.

Kinda like Paplebon last year (Even tho he took on a bigger role as he proved he could handel it).

[ACL BoSox]

Is Rudy Seanez and Julian Tavarez still on this team??

 

 

Who else are we going to pitch? Hansen and Delcarmen have been shakey, timlin has not been right, I don't know who else you can throw out there. Good pitching is hard to come by.

[a700hitter]

Well at that time you said he wouldnt even sniff the majors until 2007 or even later than that

 

God youre acting like he's a carbon copy of 2006 Jeff Weaver

Hey, hey. I didn't say anything bad about him.

[schillingouttheks]

Do they learn s*** coming in the same time Seanez comes in? Do we prosper having Seanez coming in when they would? Put 'em in the water' date=' don't pussy 'em.[/quote']

That's also how you ruin them.

[jacksonianmarch]

Kinda like Paplebon last year (Even tho he took on a bigger role as he proved he could handel it).

 

Paps was perfectly used last yr. 5th starter and a MR who proved he could handle setup opportunities and earned the setup job. I think Lester is carrying the burden of the Red Sox rotation as the 3 guy and he cannot handle it yet.

[Buckeye]

This is like watching a train wreck. Come on, guys. There is still plenty of time to turn things around! But we can't play this way against F'ing KC...

[riverside sluggers]

Kinda like Paplebon last year (Even tho he took on a bigger role as he proved he could handel it).

 

He was sent down (3 weeks) because they had a more stable rotation

[Cocos Disciples]

That's also how you ruin them.

Touché

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Control improves as you age, but not a ton, typically. There are a few guys who dramatically improve, like RJ did, but most will have a gradual but not huge improvement. Power hitters, on the other hand, usually start out as solid line drive hitters and grow into their bodies. Almost every single hitter, for that matter, improve their power as they age. It is totally different.

 

Kinda like Scott Kazmir

[jacksonianmarch]

This is like watching a train wreck. Come on, guys. There is still plenty of time to turn things around! But we can't play this way against F'ing KC...

 

If things stay as is, this is a backbreaker.

[a700hitter]

Do they learn s*** coming in the same time Seanez comes in? Do we prosper having Seanez coming in when they would? Put 'em in the water' date=' don't pussy 'em.[/quote']If you don't mind going home at the beginning of October and watching the Yankees win #27. I for one find that prospect repulsive, and living in NY will be brutal.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

He was sent down (3 weeks) because they had a more stable rotation

But then again this all comes back to Theo not being able to stabilize that roation at the deadline.

[jacksonianmarch]

Kinda like Scott Kazmir

Correct. Kaz had 100BB last yr and is on pace for 70 this yr. I dont think he will ever be down near 40 or less, but he has improved.

[Cocos Disciples]

I do not remember Joe Nelson.

[Buckeye]

If things stay as is, this is a backbreaker.

 

It's just so darned depressing. Despite a spate in injuries, there's no reason for them to be playing like this against KC.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

ATG13, who's that in your avatar?

Sorry I missed your post:

 

Philip Hughes

[Cocos Disciples]

Way to start us off.

[noonanberg]

lester is fine. let's not forget he had to be rushed to the bigs because otherwise we would have a three man rotation at this point. it's one bad game, let's not forget he's had a few good ones. i don't think his confidence will get shaken that much. pitchers know not every game is going to be a good one. beckett is a good example. i think having dave wallace back will be good too. also dont forget he has guys like schilling telling him how to bounce back. lester will be fine.

[Buckeye]

Come on, Willy Mo!

[schillingouttheks]

lester is fine. let's not forget he had to be rushed to the bigs because otherwise we would have a three man rotation at this point. it's one bad game, let's not forget he's had a few good ones. i don't think his confidence will get shaken that much. pitchers know not every game is going to be a good one. beckett is a good example. i think having dave wallace back will be good too. also dont forget he has guys like schilling telling him how to bounce back. lester will be fine.

I thought you turned off the game?

 

By the way, this is not one bad game. His last few outings have been nothing more than mediocre.

[a700hitter]

Konerko just took mo deep for the tie.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

The Red Sox have a chance for this to be the first game in August we hold a team to less than 10 hits.