Abreu to Yankees

[Mr Crunchy]

dont just do something stand there

 

this trade doesnt frighten me unless theyre allowed to use 4 outfielders

what this means is giambi will be playing 1st base quite a bit

bad for ny

this also means that jarret wright is off to the bullpen as lidle i believe is the better pitcher

 

if the sox dont grab a starting pitcher by 4pm today they got trouble

 

theres 2 types

a rubber arm 5.00 guy who will keep you in the game

or

the hoss who will compete with schill for the 1

theres just not a lot on the table evidently

 

i dont know what the yankees are thinking

i'd like to be a fly on the wall in the sheffield establishment this morning

he just lost millions

abreu hasnt hit 20hrs in a year has he??

277 hitter who lost his power but he gets on base a lot

sort of like a kevin youkillis

except he makes 14,650,000.00 a year more

 

i have no idea what theyre thinking outside of

""lets throw a ton of money at someone""

[ORS]

i'd like to be a fly on the wall in the sheffield establishment this morning

he just lost millions

This is just the type of thing to send him over the top after they didn't pick up his option. It wouldn't surprise me if he never swings a bat again in pinstripes -- he certainly won't up his rehab schedule for them. I'd rather face Abreu than Sheffield in Sept.

[Cocos Disciples]

Yeah Sheffield scares the s*** outta me, makes the bat look like a toothpick.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Buster Olney's blog:

 

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster#20060731

[ORS]

I seem to remember Olney thinking they would pick his option up earlier. He's really shaking those pom-poms.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I seem to remember Olney thinking they would pick his option up earlier. He's really shaking those pom-poms.

He did however nail the Abreu thing. Hes was on that since Matsui got hurt so clearly he has solid sorces. THAT SAID I think the Yankees floated this story so they can try to avoid any Sheffield problem.

[ORS]

I don't think nailing the Abreu thing is all that noteworthy. One team has a high-priced all-star COF that they've been trying to get rid of for a while, the other has the deepest pockets and two all-star COF on the DL. It was only a matter of time, Gillick's initial demands had to come down, and you, I, Olney, everyone knew it.

 

I agree. The timing of this reeks of placating Sheff through the media. I don't see it working. His tune will only get worse until he's extended. What the lackey writes in his blog won't affect Sheff.

[CrespoBlows]

You know what's weird?

 

Rudy Seanez has a lower ERA then everyone in the Yankee bullpen, not named Villone or Rivera.

 

What the fuc....?

[riverside sluggers]

He did however nail the Abreu thing. Hes was on that since Matsui got hurt so clearly he has solid sorces. THAT SAID I think the Yankees floated this story so they can try to avoid any Sheffield problem.

 

Does anyone really believe that even with getting his option picked up, Sheffield will take in stride moving to 1st base? That being said, Giambi does have a problem with just DH'ing

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I don't think nailing the Abreu thing is all that noteworthy. One team has a high-priced all-star COF that they've been trying to get rid of for a while, the other has the deepest pockets and two all-star COF on the DL. It was only a matter of time, Gillick's initial demands had to come down, and you, I, Olney, everyone knew it.

 

I agree. The timing of this reeks of placating Sheff through the media. I don't see it working. His tune will only get worse until he's extended. What the lackey writes in his blog won't affect Sheff.

I still believe Sheffield will play. In fact I think he has to play considering he got hurt in his walk year. Lets say he doesnt play and he goes FA. Hes prob only going to get a deal with a s*** load of incentives in it or at best a 1 year deal for certainly not alot of money. If he comes back and hits he will get a respectable contract. s***, either way the Yankees are going to get draft picks for him.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Does anyone really believe that even with getting his option picked up, Sheffield will take in stride moving to 1st base? That being said, Giambi does have a problem with just DH'ing

Giambi has been DH'ing for most of the season and he has said he has no problem with it. In fact he said he has taken a liking to it.

[ORS]

I still believe Sheffield will play. In fact I think he has to play considering he got hurt in his walk year. Lets say he doesnt play and he goes FA. Hes prob only going to get a deal with a s*** load of incentives in it or at best a 1 year deal for certainly not alot of money. If he comes back and hits he will get a respectable contract. s***, either way the Yankees are going to get draft picks for him.

I guess you've been watching a completely different Gary Sheffield and how he deals with a situation where he's unhappy with his FO. The Gary Sheffield I've watched for a decade or so now would gladly take less money to play elsewhere when he's not getting what he feels is his due. Do you think this guy will do anything to risk playing next year to help the Yankees out if they don't extend him?

 

EDIT: Hell, if weren't for the steroids thing, I would advocate the Sox picking him up in FA. I'll bet he'd like nothing more than sticking it to the Yankees. And, here's the kicker, he's the type of guy that would. He plays better pissed.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I guess you've been watching a completely different Gary Sheffield and how he deals with a situation where he's unhappy with his FO. The Gary Sheffield I've watched for a decade or so now would gladly take less money to play elsewhere when he's not getting what he feels is his due. Do you think this guy will do anything to risk playing next year to help the Yankees out if they don't extend him?

Well then he is foolish. Hes only hurting himself. Hes taking money from his own pocket by not showing if he is healthy or not. Whos going to give a 39 year old(or how ever old he is) OF a multi-year contract coming off of a wrist injury?

[Mr Crunchy]

redseat

he must be too young to remember sheffields golden days in milwaukee or hes one of those mass rehab kids that takes the short blue bus to school.

 

i wouldnt be surprised if sheffield beats the s*** out of brian cashman,abreau and damon the day he comes back

he may not even come back based on this trade and if he does what are the chances he starts in on this respect thing and it aint about the money....want to discuss disruptive ball players??

sheffield is the cover boy

 

too bad they cant use 4 outfielders

 

what the f*** was cashman thinking about?

[ORS]

Well then he is foolish. Hes only hurting himself. Hes taking money from his own pocket by not showing if he is healthy or not. Whos going to give a 39 year old(or how ever old he is) OF a multi-year contract coming off of a wrist injury?

Very few teams. There's a risk to him playing though. Wrist injuries are tricky, he could come back an struggle for a bit, which decreases the likelihood from where it stands now. I'm sure he's aware of this, and his decision will be determined by how good he thinks he can be, not by how much he thinks he can help the Yankees.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

what the f*** was cashman thinking about?

Sheffield was a Steinbrenner signing not a Cashman signing. Is Cashman had his way Vlad would be playing RF for the Yankees right now.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I'm sure he's aware of this, and his decision will be determined by how good he thinks he can be, not by how much he thinks he can help the Yankees.

I've never said he will come back to help the Yankees. I did however say he would have to come back to help himself.

[ORS]

I've never said he will come back to help the Yankees. I did however say he would have to come back to help himself.

I think, given the nature of wrist injuries, he doesn't come back to protect himself and to shaft the team that I'm sure he feels just "disrespected" him. Time will tell.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I think, given the nature of wrist injuries, he doesn't come back to protect himself and to shaft the team that I'm sure he feels just "disrespected" him. Time will tell.

Considering Sheffield's history he is more likely to develop some wrist soreness but hey hes only hurting himself IMO. Sheffield is a great hitter but if the Yankees get Matsui and Cano along with the lineup they currently have I'll go to war with that and take the draft picks in the off-season.

[Mr Crunchy]

Sheffield was a Steinbrenner signing not a Cashman signing. Is Cashman had his way Vlad would be playing RF for the Yankees right now.

 

 

good point and i agree with ya arod

since steinbrenner came back from exile hes continued to f*** this team up in so many different ways its become a comedy and since its all his doing

he cant fire anyone over it

 

it isnt a coincidence that the yankee team built in the early 90s thru 00 was built while the big man was kept out of the loop

home grown ballplayers,solid team 1st guys who want to win more than breath

then he came back and it started with mussina,spread to giambi then sheffield then arod then last years trifecta of pavano wright and johnson

 

he got guys like denny neagle jeff weaver and javier vasquez because we wanted them

he gave contreras 32M because theo wanted him too and then when he saw the redsox kicking contreras ass all over the field he dumped him for.......esteban dejesus loaiza

 

steinbrenner has no business in the game of baseball and instead of being celebrated as ""THE BOSS"" because he can piss away a ton of money

he should be vilified for f***ing this franchise to tears every single time he makes a move

 

im very greatful baseball let him return after his 2nd expulsion

i dont want to think about how much better ny would be if they used their financial resourses to actually make their team better as opposed to buying up the entire 1997 allstar team

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

good point and i agree with ya arod

since steinbrenner came back from exile hes continued to f*** this team up in so many different ways its become a comedy and since its all his doing

he cant fire anyone over it

 

it isnt a coincidence that the yankee team built in the early 90s thru 00 was built while the big man was kept out of the loop

home grown ballplayers,solid team 1st guys who want to win more than breath

then he came back and it started with mussina,spread to giambi then sheffield then arod then last years trifecta of pavano wright and johnson

 

he got guys like denny neagle jeff weaver and javier vasquez because we wanted them

he gave contreras 32M because theo wanted him too and then when he saw the redsox kicking contreras ass all over the field he dumped him for.......esteban dejesus loaiza

 

steinbrenner has no business in the game of baseball and instead of being celebrated as ""THE BOSS"" because he can piss away a ton of money

he should be vilified for f***ing this franchise to tears every single time he makes a move

 

im very greatful baseball let him return after his 2nd expulsion

i dont want to think about how much better ny would be if they used their financial resourses to actually make their team better as opposed to buying up the entire 1997 allstar team

All true, it sounds like Steinbrenner is starting to take a back seat to guys like Steve Swindal, Brian Cashman ETC. The Yankees instead of trading their prsopects held on to them. However the Boss is the Boss and he still supplies the cash to allow Cashman to make moves like Abreu.

[Mr Crunchy]

the 1 thing i appreciate from a fans point of view is you'll never here ""we cant afford it"" coming out of nyc

that being said

i just dont understand this abreu thing at all

between damon sheff abreu and matsui theyve got 50M in 3positions and the biggest contract is now in the hands of the new guy....that wont sit well,not remotley

 

i hope sheffields gotten my cards and letters indicatiing how disresepectful the yankees been to him

[TheKilo]

I just want to start punching you in the face and never stop.

 

How does getting another bat help a team that has no pitching? Great they'll score another run or two ... still wont change the fact that their whole rotation besides moose is giving up 5+ runs a night.

 

 

You = funny.

 

The Yankees rotation is leaps and bounds better than the Red Sox's right now. The Red Sox have not done anything as of yet to help out their pitching staff.

 

Johnson/Mussina/Wang/Lidle/Wright is better than Schilling/Beckett/Lester/?/?

 

You can't think Wells is just going to step in and solidify the rotation, especially with his extra weight, and with the injury he had to overcome. Wakefield's out for another three weeks. We can't "wave the white flag" every 4th and 5th day for the next month or so and hope to stay competitive in the division. Right now, the Yankees are the better ballclub. They GOT BETTER at the deadline. The Red Sox have not yet.

[Beckett95]

If the Yanks somehow get healthy there lineup would be:

 

1. Johnny Damon CF

2. Derek Jeter SS

3. Jason Giambi 1B

4. Alex Rodriguez 3B

5. Bobby Abreu RF

6. Gary Sheffield DH

7. Hideki Matsui LF

8. Robinson Cano 2B

9. Jorge Posada C

 

 

wow that lineup is ridiculous, and having Craig Wilson come of the bench

[26 to 6]

Appearantly there was a press conference scheduled today, because I turned on ESPNEWS and saw that Cory Lidle and Arthur Rhodes were going back and forth and then they aired Lidle's comments from the rpess conference. Does anyone know if it was on YES? I hadn't heard anything about this being scheduled or anything.

 

Also, in case anyone cares; Abreu takes 53, Bowa switches to 50, Lidle gets 30 and Wilson takes Chacon's 39.

[ARod2212]

Originally Posted by MC Hammer View Original

I just want to start punching you in the face and never stop.

 

How does getting another bat help a team that has no pitching? Great they'll score another run or two ... still wont change the fact that their whole rotation besides moose is giving up 5+ runs a night.

 

The Yankees are 5th in the AL in ERA. The Red Sox are 8th. Which would mean that pitching should be more of a concern for you guys.

 

Pitchers on the Yankees with ERAs over 5-

Johnson, Chacon, Sturtze, Erickson, Small, Wilson, Bean, Ponson, Beam

 

Since there is only one pitcher in there who will pitch down the stretch, what you are saying is the Abreu trade makes no difference because Randy Johnson has pitched bad.

 

"Ohh, their bullpen has been good, Mussina and Wang have been lights out, and they added an RBI guy, 5th starter and great bench player at no cost..but Johnson is still crappy! Haha!"