May 23rd vs. New York

[riverside sluggers]

Exactly. Still plenty of time to regain the lead and be up by 16.5 games by Sept :wetodd:

 

Your starting pitching has to show its worth. The Yankees arent alway sgoing to give them 5+ Runs of support.

 

Mussina- Ace of this staff by far, 17+ Wins-- 3.25-3.50 ERA

Johnson- showing his age

Chacon- on DL currently, too much of a wild pitcher to have trust in

Wright- Tonight's start still showed he was allowing a lot of baserunners. He only last 5 innings however and already speculation that they pulled him because of his target painted shoulder. Youk's comebacker in the 1st probably set that in motion

Snall- Still got this guy pegged as a 1 year wonder

Pavano- If lucky, could see him by late August/September

[empirestrikesback26]

A lot of yankee fans are probably demanding manny be beaned tomorrow and are very angry. I don't feel that way. When has manny not showboated? It's not as if he picks out the yankees on purpose and looks to watch his homers. That's just what he does. Bitching about it and beaning him won't do anything. But as far as people saying who gives a s***, if A rod did that, it would be a different story. Just how it is.

 

Gagne was closer to mo's status than papelboner is now, and even he blew up. Don't call him the next mo just yet. Although, I'll give ya he's pretty damn nasty with a baseball.

[riverside sluggers]

Wakefield is near the end of his career.

 

Insightful post. Hows your 17 million pitcher RJ? Wakefield still has had a better season than he has. RJ has only got his 5 wins because of high run support.

[CrespoBlows]

Wakefield is near the end of his career.

 

You probably meant that because of Wakefield's age he is near the end of his career.

 

But, I hope you didn't mean that because of his bad outing he is near the end of his career. Then again, you probably did mean the latter, because you are, without question, the dumbest person on the board. Hemroids could probably tell me more about baseball then you could.

[Beckett95]

Wakefield is near the end of his career.

 

ok, wats 43 year old randy johnsons ERA this year??

 

i forgot, isnt it something like 5.62????

 

dumbass

[Are U Kidding Me]

A lot of yankee fans are probably demanding manny be beaned tomorrow and are very angry. I don't feel that way. When has manny not showboated? It's not as if he picks out the yankees on purpose and looks to watch his homers. That's just what he does. Bitching about it and beaning him won't do anything. But as far as people saying who gives a s***, if A rod did that, it would be a different story. Just how it is.

 

Gagne was closer to mo's status than papelboner is now, and even he blew up. Don't call him the next mo just yet. Although, I'll give ya he's pretty damn nasty with a baseball.

 

 

Manny acted as if he walked off the ninth with the game winning home run. Bottom line is the Red Sox still LOST. That's just "Manny being Manny"

 

Rivera is the best reliever in baseball history. If Redsox fans think they can start comparing Papelbon to Rivera they are out of their minds. If Papelbon is even a reliever in 5 years you can talk to me much less 10 years! Please....

[Are U Kidding Me]

Insightful post. Hows your 17 million pitcher RJ? Wakefield still has had a better season than he has. RJ has only got his 5 wins because of high run support.

 

 

What is Wakefields record this year?

 

What is RJ's this years?

[CrespoBlows]

Manny acted as if he walked off the ninth with the game winning home run. Bottom line is the Red Sox still LOST. That's just "Manny being Manny"

 

Manny always watches his HR's. Especially if they are as long as that one was. What does the point with the Red Sox losing have anything to do with Manny's HR? He hit a homerun, and he watched it, so ???? Where does losing fit in?

 

Rivera is the best reliever in baseball history. If Redsox fans think they can start comparing Papelbon to Rivera they are out of their minds. If Papelbon is even a reliever in 5 years you can talk to me much less 10 years! Please....

 

What the hell does the next sentence even mean? Get the dick that's currently in your mouth. Take it out. Then resume typing. You might actually type something relevant in. But we all know that's as likely as you not being seen with a dick in your ass.

[Pinstripe_Pride]

Your starting pitching has to show its worth. The Yankees arent alway sgoing to give them 5+ Runs of support.

 

Mussina- Ace of this staff by far, 17+ Wins-- 3.25-3.50 ERA

Johnson- showing his age

Chacon- on DL currently, too much of a wild pitcher to have trust in

Wright- Tonight's start still showed he was allowing a lot of baserunners. He only last 5 innings however and already speculation that they pulled him because of his target painted shoulder. Youk's comebacker in the 1st probably set that in motion

Snall- Still got this guy pegged as a 1 year wonder

Pavano- If lucky, could see him by late August/September

Yeah I was just joking, but thanks for the rundown anyway. I'm worried about the starting pitching but confident that things will fall into place. Just a spoiled Yankee fans way of thinking? Probably. But I'm not going to be pessimistic about it, although I'd be out of my crazy mind to think that the Yanks would have anything near a 16.5 lead

[CrespoBlows]

What is Wakefields record this year?

 

What is RJ's this years?

 

Can you use stats that are indicitive of the pitcher's performance? W-L records just tell us if the team scored more runs then the other team did. It tells us nothing of how the pitcher did.

[riverside sluggers]

What is Wakefields record this year?

 

What is RJ's this years?

 

as I said, records are skewed because RJ has been getting an average of 5+ Runs a game. Wake is just at 3 or less runs avg during the innings has pitched

 

Im sure you think these stats dont say anything of whos having the better season

RJ- 5.62 ERA-- 9 HRs allowed in 57 innings

Wake- 4.57 ERA--- 7 Hrs allowed in 65 innings

[Are U Kidding Me]

Manny always watches his HR's. Especially if they are as long as that one was. What does the point with the Red Sox losing have anything to do with Manny's HR? He hit a homerun, and he watched it, so ???? Where does losing fit in?

 

 

 

What the hell does the next sentence even mean? Get the dick that's currently in your mouth. Take it out. Then resume typing. You might actually type something relevant in. But we all know that's as likely as you not being seen with a dick in your ass.

 

Sorry I drank a 12 pack tonight.

 

What I mean is Papelbon needs time to prove himself. People are saying he is the next Rivera which is stupidity alone! Rivera is the best reliever in baseball and people are comparing Papelbon to him? Papelbon throws nothing special.

[riverside sluggers]

Papelbon throws nothing special.

 

Id really like to hear your insight on how he throws "nothing special"

[Are U Kidding Me]

as I said, records are skewed because RJ has been getting an average of 5+ Runs a game. Wake is just at 3 or less runs avg during the innings has pitched

 

Im sure you think these stats dont say anything of whos having the better season

RJ- 5.62 ERA-- 9 HRs allowed in 57 innings

Wake- 4.57 ERA--- 7 Hrs allowed in 65 innings

 

I agree about Randy Johnson. I think his career is over. The guy only has 2 pitches and the RedSox will certainly take advantage of that tomorrow.

 

Look everyone, I am neither a Sox or Yankee fan! I just love the rivalry. I call things how they are, and I feel that you people unjustly attack people for saying anything bad about the sox.

 

How about this. " The Yankees have the highest payroll in sports and they SUCK!"

[jsinger121]

A bunch of questionable moves by Tito tonight. Keeping Wake in for the 7th was a horrible decision. He was already at 100 pitches after the 6th and there was no reason to put him back out there for the 7th when he barely escaped the 6th. Pinch hitting Snow that early was a bad decision. Harris sucks but if he strikes out we still have Youk to hit. If Tito said Pena was available to pinch hit then there was no reason for that scrub Mohr to even get a chance to hit in the 9th. Also Mirabelli should have never batted against Farnsworth in the 7th. This was a winnable game and Tito made some questionable decisions which cost the team this game.

[redsoxrules]

I agree about Randy Johnson. I think his career is over. The guy only has 2 pitches and the RedSox will certainly take advantage of that tomorrow.

 

Look everyone, I am neither a Sox or Yankee fan! I just love the rivalry. I call things how they are, and I feel that you people unjustly attack people for saying anything bad about the sox.

 

How about this. " The Yankees have the highest payroll in sports and they SUCK!"

 

is it just me or do you just post when the sox play the yanks?

[CrespoBlows]

Sorry I drank a 12 pack tonight.

 

What I mean is Papelbon needs time to prove himself. People are saying he is the next Rivera which is stupidity alone! Rivera is the best reliever in baseball and people are comparing Papelbon to him? Papelbon throws nothing special.

 

Well, I'm sure you don't mean alcohol, because that would be impossible, and it wouldn't explain the other lack of intellect in your other post. Unless you're drunk all the time, which is also impossible. So I'm assuming you meant a 12 pack of this

 

http://www.freshdirect.com/media/images/product/dairy/dai_dannon_danimals_02_p.jpg

 

Am I right?

[empirestrikesback26]

It is true though. I don't know he gets hitters out. I haven't really heard what he pitch he really dominates people with. His fastball is so-so, and I don't know what his other pitches are.

[mtbykr]

What is Wakefields record this year?

 

What is RJ's this years?

 

What would their records be if the run support was reversed?

[mtbykr]

It is true though. I don't know he gets hitters out. I haven't really heard what he pitch he really dominates people with. His fastball is so-so, and I don't know what his other pitches are.

 

Ok so paps doesn't have a cutter:rolleyes: The bottom line is he has given up 1 run this year in a "non-save" situation. Doesn't really matter that he doesn't have that "cutter" if he gets the results! How did the yanks do tonight against him?? He could have that one "great" pitch, but if he doen't get the job done no one cares!

[redsoxrules]

Ok so paps doesn't have a cutter:rolleyes: The bottom line is he has given up 1 run this year in a "non-save" situation. Doesn't really matter that he doesn't have that "cutter" if he gets the results! How did the yanks do tonight against him?? He could have that one "great" pitch, but if he doen't get the job done no one cares!

 

i think he's just jelous cause paps has been better than rivera so far this year

[Mr Crunchy]

anyone feel like theyre owed an apology this morning??

willie and doug and alex at 789??

when you play the yanks with 6 hitters you deserve to lose

we can hide 1bat,maybe 2 every 5th day but 3 consecutive stiffs in a row is cancer

 

memo to francoma

mix the stiffs up

[monty]

those guys should have been where they were in the order... If anything maybe put Harris #9 and move Doug to #7. Theyre really wouldnt a better spot for them, you cant just put raunchy stiffs high in the order...

[monty]

Randy Johnson pitchs tonight... heres to making his era go even higher then what it already is!!! talk about a stiff..

[rician blast]

Sure I saw it. He's damn freakin good, but still unproven. Let's see if his arm can hold until the post-season and beyond. Or at least if it can hold after he gets hit and loses some confidence. I know all the replys are going to come "He's the next Mo!" and "He's proven enough!" Yeah, I get it. He's awesome and looks unhittable, thus far at least. I am also a baseball fan, and it's fun watching a young guy like that be so good.

 

Is he the next Mo? Is he on his way to being one of the best closers in the game? I dunno. I don't really care either. Ignore those who get caught up in the hype and label this kid the next Mo, or say he is better than Rivera, etc.

 

From this Sox fans perspective, those kinds of comparisons are not only premature but totally unnecessary.

 

I think more objective fans will look at it differently....Papelbon is performing extremely well and shows great promise. There is fan confidence in him when he is brought into key spots AND their is optimism regarding the fact that he is young and talented (and "cheap", salary wise) and a huge positive to the future of the Red Sox.

 

When you get dragged into an argument regarding Paps vs. Mo, you AND your "opponent" are missing the point.

[rician blast]

A lot of yankee fans are probably demanding manny be beaned tomorrow and are very angry.

 

instead of beaning Manny, Yankee fans should beat the tar out of the stiff that grooved him a fastball on 0-2 (was that the count?)

[a700hitter]

A bunch of questionable moves by Tito tonight. Keeping Wake in for the 7th was a horrible decision. He was already at 100 pitches after the 6th and there was no reason to put him back out there for the 7th when he barely escaped the 6th. Pinch hitting Snow that early was a bad decision. Harris sucks but if he strikes out we still have Youk to hit. If Tito said Pena was available to pinch hit then there was no reason for that scrub Mohr to even get a chance to hit in the 9th. Also Mirabelli should have never batted against Farnsworth in the 7th. This was a winnable game and Tito made some questionable decisions which cost the team this game.

Tito took an axe to this game.

[a700hitter]

It is true though. I don't know he gets hitters out. I haven't really heard what he pitch he really dominates people with. His fastball is so-so, and I don't know what his other pitches are.

Mo has made a career based on one pitch, so why is Papelbon's success so surprising? Old Mo meet the New Mo.

[mtbykr]

anyone feel like theyre owed an apology this morning??

willie and doug and alex at 789??

when you play the yanks with 6 hitters you deserve to lose

we can hide 1bat,maybe 2 every 5th day but 3 consecutive stiffs in a row is cancer

 

memo to francoma

mix the stiffs up

 

I know it's frustrating, but cora has played great in the field and at the plate these last 2 games!

[Mr Crunchy]

those guys should have been where they were in the order... If anything maybe put Harris #9 and move Doug to #7. Theyre really wouldnt a better spot for them, you cant just put raunchy stiffs high in the order

 

if youre willing to surrender 33% of your offense out of the chute then youre doomed

 

we can hide a banjo hitting ss in this lineup.

we're pushing the envelope every 5th game with mirabelli and a banjo hitting ss but when combined with a .100 hitting centerfielder and all 3 of them come in sequence??

 

ya cant have the 3 of them hitting in sequence under any condition