"A True Hall Of Famer In Every Sense Of The Word"

[HeadOfSoxNation]

Upon the passing of Kirby Puckett, our Valliant Commisioner Bud Selig said "Kirby was a true Hall Of Famer in every sense of the word"...yet another reason why Bud Selig is an idiot. Alright, so, I'm sure at least some of you read the post I made before Kirby passed away...so my feelings are pretty well known. It's obvious that I don't care for KP, and think his actions disgrace the game of baseball...but Big Bad Bud's comments did bring up an interesting question...who does define Hall Of Famer for you?

 

I'd have to say I have a couple...namely The Killer, Brooks Robinson, and (yes I know he's not in yet) Ripken, Jr. I just love what all these guys bring/brought to the table. I've had the pleasure of speaking will all 3 of them on many occasions and all of them truly seemed as excited to meet me as I was to meet them. It goes a long way when guys'll talk to you like you're an equal, not as if they're doing it to go through the motions of being a celebrity. Granted, this may have been the case, but they hid it well Plus, I was a damn cute little kid haha.

 

Anyways...I think those guys are "Hall Of Famers In Every Sense Of The Word"...what do ya'll think?

[KeepTheFaith1229]

I think that we shouldn't be criticizing Kirby Puckett right now. Now's not the time, man...

[jsinger121]

show some class

[MC Hammer]

Totally classless to take shots at a guy right after his death.

[schillingouttheks]

Dude....the guy just f***ing DIED. What's wrong with you?

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

What was Selig supposed to say? "Puckett was a really great player, but a s***** person. The world is a better place now that he's dead."

[26 to 6]

I dont know much about Kirby as a person, but apon watching the interviews with former teammates and friends, many peoiple were talking about how loved he was in the Minnesota community, just because of how much he did. According to all of them, he was always signing autographs for kids and doing things in the community. But like I said, I dont know much about him.

 

but yea, how could you say things about a guy not even hours after he died.

[Optimist]

Upon the passing of Kirby Puckett, our Valliant Commisioner Bud Selig said "Kirby was a true Hall Of Famer in every sense of the word"...yet another reason why Bud Selig is an idiot. Alright, so, I'm sure at least some of you read the post I made before Kirby passed away...so my feelings are pretty well known. It's obvious that I don't care for KP, and think his actions disgrace the game of baseball...but Big Bad Bud's comments did bring up an interesting question...who does define Hall Of Famer for you?

 

You lose at life.

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

At least wait until the body's cold and he's in the ground before you bash him...

[YanksHater213]

While I think its wrong of him to bash a guy who just died...

 

...its also wrong of you guys to bash someone for thier opinion on something, which was formulated more than likely way before this guy died. He was most likely going to state his opinion on a matter like this some other time a discussion about Puckett came up anywyas.

[schillingouttheks]

Yeah....but not right after he died...

[YanksHater213]

Yeah....but not right after he died...

Read the first line of my post again, fool.

[26 to 6]

There are plenty of guys that I hate. But im not heartless and I wouldnt bash them right after they died.

 

Curt Schilling dies, Im not out there talking s*** about him. You just dont do it.

[schillingouttheks]

Read the first line of my post again, fool.

I did. And I don't care when his opinion was formulated. The point is, the man just died. You don't bash him hours after he passes away. Bring it up another time if you want to bash him, I don't care. But DON'T do it RIGHT AFTER the man died..

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

But he also shouldn't talk s*** about what Selig said. Being sympathetic towards a HOFer dying does not make him an idiot. He's just doing his job, give it a rest...

[The Monster is my Mom]

Upon the passing of Kirby Puckett, our Valliant Commisioner Bud Selig said "Kirby was a true Hall Of Famer in every sense of the word"...yet another reason why Bud Selig is an idiot. Alright, so, I'm sure at least some of you read the post I made before Kirby passed away...so my feelings are pretty well known. It's obvious that I don't care for KP, and think his actions disgrace the game of baseball...but Big Bad Bud's comments did bring up an interesting question...who does define Hall Of Famer for you?

 

I'd have to say I have a couple...namely The Killer, Brooks Robinson, and (yes I know he's not in yet) Ripken, Jr. I just love what all these guys bring/brought to the table. I've had the pleasure of speaking will all 3 of them on many occasions and all of them truly seemed as excited to meet me as I was to meet them. It goes a long way when guys'll talk to you like you're an equal, not as if they're doing it to go through the motions of being a celebrity. Granted, this may have been the case, but they hid it well Plus, I was a damn cute little kid haha.

 

Anyways...I think those guys are "Hall Of Famers In Every Sense Of The Word"...what do ya'll think?

 

 

You're an idiot. Did you just list those 3 players to try and impress us that you met them, or that you really think they are the "ideal HOF?". Anyways, you really need to check yourself. :thumbdown

[a700hitter]

No one leads a perfect life, and I am sure KP was no exception, but it's not like he was on the FBI's most wanted list. However, he has died at a tragically young age. At this time, we should celebrate the good aspects of his life, and he was a heckuva a ballplayer.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

Woahhhhhhhhhhhhh everyone...relax.....

 

s***, I don't even know how I'm going to respond to everyone, I can't do it individually. And I don't know who exactly said these things, I'm just going to pop off a few of the things that are in my head...

 

Whoever said that they wouldn't/won't bash Schilling after he dies...good for you, I don't think that you should. Curt's a media whore, but he never tried to strangle his wife with a telephone cord. Comparing the two of them is assinine.

 

I didn't name those 3 HOFers to 'brag that I met them'. I just think they exemplify class on and off the baseball field, and I think that that's important in order to be a "HOFer in every sense of the word."

 

I think Bud Selig is an idiot. I do, I sure do. I'll say it now. I'll say it an hour ago. I'll say it an hour from now. I understand his job is the Comissioner. And saying something like "Baseball lost a great player" or "Our thoughts and prayers are with his family" or something along those lines would be TOTALLY justified, I just think it's assinine to build Puckett up like he did. Puckett made Ty Cobb look like Mother Freaking Theresa.

 

I'm not heartless, I don't 'lose at life', there's nothing 'wrong' with me...I do feel for Kirby's family and the people that loved him. I posted that prior to anything else in the whole "Kirby Puckett Had a Stroke" forum...

 

As far as other people go...Yes, he died. Yes, death is sad. Yes, baseball lost one of our great PLAYERS today. I understand all of that. There are a couple of things that I'm not sure some of you understand...

 

DO YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT KIRBY PUCKETT SEXUALLY ASSAULTED A WOMAN IN A BATHROOM STALL? MOREOVER, DO YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT KIRBY PUCKETT TRIED TO KILL HIS f***ING WIFE?!? I simply don't get it...

 

I don't have any kind of respect for Kirby Puckett as a person. I'll say, out of respect for the people that were close to him, I should have bit my tounge for a little while...but I really don't think I'm too far in the wrong here. If I offended anyone, I apologize, those weren't my intentions. I spoke my mind and will continue to do so, much like all of you did. And that's totally within your rights. Apparently, there's a little bit of a discrepancy between our (or at least, my) definition of an adequate greiving period for a guy like Puckett.

 

I'm going to leave you with one last quick thought...

 

Picture a dude like Kirby dating your mother or your sister...still think he deserves all kinds of respect?

 

Check out this article if you get some time... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2003/03/11/si_puckett/

[He Hate Me]

I understand ur feelings HOSN, and I share some of them myself. However, I think most of us would pay respect to just about any dead guy and give him a proper sendoff.

[riverside sluggers]

I know one thing, he was a player that was for the fans. Signed as many autographs as he could and I believe he gave away like 30,000 frigging tickets to people less unfortunate than others. He wouldve built on his stats moreso if not for glaucoma that had blinded his right eye, a career cut short.

 

He just died, so sorry if myself and others arent giving credit or merit to a thread thats ripping at him.

[Cityofchampions33]

Yeah, he played for the love of the game, which would be refreshing to see more of now-a-days, yes he had some personal issues, but he did wonders for he game of baseball, and the Twins orginization. He's been criticized enough off the field, lets give him the respect thats due to him and stop.

[The Monster is my Mom]

HOSN, I think everyone was just so upset not because we don't agree that we was a jerk off the field, but that you posted this within minutes of the guy dying.

[mtbykr]

Well despite the kind of person he was. ( i don't have any knowledge of it) He will be missed in the baseball community! He played the game the right way for a small market team---and for that he will be missed!

[See Red]

If we're going to remember the guys life, we have to take the negatives with the positives, so I think the backlash HeadofSoxNation has recieved has been a little unfair. The guy was far from being the saint that most have made him out to be in the wake of his death -- the guy had multiple mistresses, would committ lewd acts in public, and attempted to kill his wife. The timing could have been better from HeadofSoxNation, but pointing out the negatives doesn't deserve the reaction it got and doesn't disrespect him in anyway. He posted it now because something that was said inspired him to start a discussion. Here's a question I'm sure I'll get grilled for, and I'm not saying this is the case, but an issue I've seen brought up elsewhere -- what would you think of the guy on the field if it turned out his glaucoma came because of steroid usage?

[He Hate Me]

what would you think of the guy on the field if it turned out his glaucoma came because of steroid usage?

 

In all honesty? I dont know, but it would make me even sicker to my stomach

[He Hate Me]

Interestingly, topical steroids can cause glaucoma. One of the most dangeorous side effects of steroid use is...strokes.

 

Steroids can also prevent you from growing taller as the artificially high sex hormone (caused by steroids) levels can signal the bones to stop growing sooner than they normally would have done.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

If we're going to remember the guys life, we have to take the negatives with the positives, so I think the backlash HeadofSoxNation has recieved has been a little unfair. The guy was far from being the saint that most have made him out to be in the wake of his death -- the guy had multiple mistresses, would committ lewd acts in public, and attempted to kill his wife. The timing could have been better from HeadofSoxNation, but pointing out the negatives doesn't deserve the reaction it got and doesn't disrespect him in anyway. He posted it now because something that was said inspired him to start a discussion. Here's a question I'm sure I'll get grilled for, and I'm not saying this is the case, but an issue I've seen brought up elsewhere -- what would you think of the guy on the field if it turned out his glaucoma came because of steroid usage?

 

 

Exaaaaaaaactly...I'll pay the guy as much respect as can be paid when it comes to on the field performance. As I've said before, he was my favorite player for a long period of time, for reasons like what a lot of ya'll have mentioned...it just irritates me when people die and everyone paints them into something that they're not. Something not even close.

 

Did anyone happen to listen to The Herd with Collin Cowherd on ESPN Radio today? He shared a lot of my feelings and also caught a lot of heat for it. He said it best when he said "Kirby Puckett was a player for 3 hours of every day, and excelled there. He was a husband, a father, and moreover, a man for the other 21 and failed miserably."

 

Dude....that steroid thing just blew my mind. I hadn't even thought about that. And actually...don't have any idea how to respond. I guess it's possible. Very possible.

[MC Hammer]

If we're going to remember the guys life, we have to take the negatives with the positives, so I think the backlash HeadofSoxNation has recieved has been a little unfair.

THATS EXACTLY IT! We're not remembering his life, because none of us knew him. We're remembering his BASEBALL CAREER. What he did on the field ... not off it.

[See Red]

Yeah? Says who? Certainly not the person who created this thread. HeadofSoxNation created this thread to talk about, not only Kirby Puckett, but other plays off the field as well as on the field. If what he said was in the middle of a conversation about Kirby Puckett's career numbers or whatever, then that's one thing. But this is another. If you want to talk only about what he did as a player, then this isn't the right thread. I happen to value what somebody does or doesn't do off the field, particularly when celebrating his life.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

Yeah? Says who? Certainly not the person who created this thread. HeadofSoxNation created this thread to talk about, not only Kirby Puckett, but other plays off the field as well as on the field. If what he said was in the middle of a conversation about Kirby Puckett's career numbers or whatever, then that's one thing. But this is another. If you want to talk only about what he did as a player, then this isn't the right thread. I happen to value what somebody does or doesn't do off the field, particularly when celebrating his life.

 

That's exactly what I was getting at when I started the thread. I never doubted any kind of accomplishments that KP had on the field, just that "exemplifying a Hall of Famer in every sense of the word" meant more then hustled his ass off, got some rings, and banged out a bunch of hits. It goes beyond that.

 

I think off the field performance is invaluable. And that was my goal in starting this thread, to get some names of HOFers who you feel belongs in the "people hall of fame" as well as the "player hall of fame", as corny as that may sound. That's why I mentioned Killer, Brooks, and the future HOFer, Cal Ripken, Jr.