Could Nixon be dealt off before the season?

[riverside sluggers]

I came upon this on Boston.com from Gordon Edes. Thought his name was dropped from trade consideration. Im not sure how to think about this as I want Nixon to stay for his last season of his contract.

 

Are Red Sox done dealing?

From the Boston Globe's Gordon Edes: How likely is it that Theo Epstein will make more trades between now and Opening Day? A virtual certainty, given the depth of the Sox' pitching staff, the desire of David Wells to be traded, and the extra infielders at the general manager's disposal, although he may want to determine the health of Curt Schilling, Josh Beckett, and Keith Foulke before pulling the trigger. But at the moment, the Sox have seven potential starters: Schilling, Beckett, Wells, Matt Clement, Tim Wakefield, Bronson Arroyo, and Jonathan Papelbon. There is also depth in the bullpen, with Foulke joined by Mike Timlin, David Riske, Julian Tavarez, Rudy Seanez, a lefty (DiNardo), and Rule 5 pick Jamie Vermilyea, giving the Sox the luxury to have prized prospects Craig Hansen and Manny Delcarmen open the season at Pawtucket. With the surplus of arms -- and mindful that Nixon is eligible for free agency after the season -- Epstein could conceivably package a pitcher and infielder for outfield prospects or use a pitcher plus Nixon in an even bigger deal.

[Americal Man]

I came upon this on Boston.com from Gordon Edes. Thought his name was dropped from trade consideration. Im not sure how to think about this as I want Nixon to stay for his last season of his contract.

 

 

This is trot's year to make it happen. two years of injuries and the weight gains and losses took their toll on him, If he doesn't come to ST in great shape, they will look to move him. I believe he wil rise to the challange and if he does,they will be another offense powerhouse this year. if he was juicing, this will be the year it will show.

[TheMeanWalrus]

Col, it's been Trots break out year for years now.

I've had it with him but he will forever hold a special place in my heart because he f***ing owned Clemens

[MC Hammer]

As much as I love Trot and as much as he symbolises what a dirt dog is, I'd have to trade him if I could get a better/younger/healthier RFer. If Trot was able to have a healthy season I'd have no problem keeping him out there in RF, but every year he remains out there is a year we have a chance to have to play without a RFer.

 

If Theo decides he can make a move that makes this team better, even if it means getting rid of Trot, I'm fine with it.

[Americal Man]

he saved us in the 2003 playoffs against oakland and he had some big hits in the ws. remember, he has played hurt for the last two years but would still run through a wall for the ball unlike sheffield who will give up and play the bounce. i give him one more year and this is it.

[Hammer]

he saved us in the 2003 playoffs against oakland and he had some big hits in the ws. remember, he has played hurt for the last two years but would still run through a wall for the ball unlike sheffield who will give up and play the bounce. i give him one more year and this is it.

 

so if he goes balls to the wall and really has a good year, then what about a contract extention col...trot's earned his stay here.

[Americal Man]

Hammer,

I would go for that. he's always been a gamer and played hard. he's never asked toleave and took a discount to stay. you think red sox when you mention his name. Plus he had 8 assists last year.

[MC Hammer]

so if he goes balls to the wall and really has a good year, then what about a contract extention col...trot's earned his stay here.

He may have earned the right to stay here but the BoSox just cannot continue to go into every season with a question mark in RF. And remember as Trot ages he's only going to be more and more injury prone. If we don't trade him before his contract is up I think you let him walk as long as there is atleast a comprable RF on the market.

[Beckett95]

What about Carlos Lee who is going to become a FA next year? Theres been talk that the Brewers might not be able to re-sign him.

[riverside sluggers]

Without a doubt the Sox would jump at a Wells/Nixon for Lee swap. It would only better the lineup, with regards to my boy Trot.

[Beckett95]

I guees the Mets are interested in Wells now. What about a Nixon/Wells for Floyd type of deal?

[Beckett95]

ROTOWORLD--

 

Although nothing has been ruled out, the Brewers don't seem prepared to offer Carlos Lee a contract extension this winter.

Lee will make $8.5 million this season and is then eligible for free agency. "A lot of times, those guys like to test the market," GM Doug Melvin said. "He's at an age to get his best deal." With another year like his 2005 (114 RBI, 811 OPS), Lee could easily receive twice what he's worth as a free agent. The Brewers will likely consider dealing him in July if they're out of contention. Jan. 29, 2006 - 3:16 am et

 

I wonder what all they would want in return for Carlos Lee.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

I guees the Mets are interested in Wells now. What about a Nixon/Wells for Floyd type of deal?

 

 

It would be classic if we traded Wells to the Mets for Floyd or someone pretty good and then Wells retired because he wanted to play on the west coast.

[yankeessuck013]

floyd isnt coming to boston, we are on his no trade list.

 

maybe wells/cora or nixon for milledge and duaner sanchez

[riverside sluggers]

As Gordon edes has suggest it would be a pitcher plus Nixon. Im sure Theo is looking into all avenues.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

floyd isnt coming to boston, we are on his no trade list.

 

maybe wells/cora or nixon for milledge and duaner sanchez

2 things that are wrong with this:

 

1. OBV Wells wants to be traded to the west coast

 

2. If the Mets refuse to trade Milledge for Manny is highly unlikely they are going to waste a big time prospect on a player whos 40+ years old and wants to be on the west coast, a big up infielder and an injury prone OF.

[CrespoBlows]

Without a doubt the Sox would jump at a Wells/Nixon for Lee swap. It would only better the lineup, with regards to my boy Trot.

 

Sure, the Red Sox would jump at it. But c'mon, there's no way in hell, Melvin trades Carlos Lee for just that.

 

If the Red Sox wanted Lee, we'd have to give up Lester. That probably won't be a tempting enough deal for the Red Sox to pull the trigger on.

[riverside sluggers]

True but Wells isnt a 10-5 guy, since of course because he cant stay with the same team for more than 2 seasons it seems like. If the Brewers were to come and offer Carlos Lee for Wells, Nixon and an outfield prospect. There would be no hesitation on Theo's part to get it done. Not "oh but what if Wells gives us a bad phone call?"

 

If the Red Sox wanted Lee, we'd have to give up Lester. That probably won't be a tempting enough deal for the Red Sox to pull the trigger on.

 

Well obviously the Sox would balk at the request of Lester, kind of a no-brainer. Hey its a free country, I can throw up ideas. Doesnt actually mean I think it will 100% happen

[CrespoBlows]

2 things that are wrong with this:

 

1. OBV Wells wants to be traded to the west coast

 

2. If the Mets refuse to trade Milledge for Manny is highly unlikely they are going to waste a big time prospect on a player whos 40+ years old and wants to be on the west coast, a big up infielder and an injury prone OF.

 

Wells has no choice where he goes. If he's dealt to the Mets, then he's dealt to the Mets.

 

But, you are absolutely correct about the Mets not pulling the trigger on that deal.

[CrespoBlows]

True but Wells isnt a 10-5 guy, since of course because he cant stay with the same team for more than 2 seasons it seems like. If the Brewers were to come and offer Carlos Lee for Wells, Nixon and an outfield prospect. There would be no hesitation on Theo's part to get it done. Not "oh but what if Wells gives us a bad phone call?"

 

That deal still wouldn't get done. Look at it terms of a broader perspective.

 

1. The only way the Brewers trades Lee is if their out of playoff contention.

 

2. If they do fall out of contention, why would the Brewers want a forty-three year old who will retire after the season. An outfielder who can't stay healthy, and who is also a free agent. Plus a prospect, whom right now has no more upside than probably a fourth outfielder. Throw in the fact, that Nelson Cruz, a Brewers outfield prospect, is a much better player than Moss or Murphy.

[Beckett95]

I think if you offered Nixon, Arroyo, a decent pitching prospect (Alvarez, Pauley, Phillips) and maybe David Murphy or Brandon Moss, the Brewers might have interest at the trade deadline, maybe even now.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

I think if you offered Nixon, Arroyo, a decent pitching prospect (Alvarez, Pauley, Phillips) and maybe David Murphy or Brandon Moss, the Brewers might have interest at the trade deadline, maybe even now.

 

Why would we trade all that for a rental when we can just sign him after the season?

[Beckett95]

sign who at the end of the season

[yankeessuck013]

Carlos Lee

[Beckett95]

Why would we trade all that for a rental when we can just sign him after the season?

 

Who is the rental? Carlos Lee?? We could sign him at the end of the season. Nixon is also a FA to be so he would have to be signed also. I would hope we would sign Lee at the end of teh season if we got him. He's only 29 this season and entering his prime.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

Who is the rental? Carlos Lee?? We could sign him at the end of the season. Nixon is also a FA to be so he would have to be signed also. I would hope we would sign Lee at the end of teh season if we got him. He's only 29 this season and entering his prime.

 

 

What are you talking about? Even if we resigned him it would be a terrible move because we just traded Trot, Arroyo, Murphy and a pitching prospect for a few extra months of Lee. Plus there would be a chance that he didn't resign with us.

 

I wouldn't trade Trot, Arroyo, Murphy and a pitching prospect for Lee at the deadline, because we can just sign him at the end of the year and we don't have to give anything up except money!!

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Wells has no choice where he goes. If he's dealt to the Mets, then he's dealt to the Mets.

Your right, the point I was going to make was that at his age he can just flat out retire.

[Beckett95]

If Nixon is injured and has the type of season he's had the last couple of years compared to what Lee puts up, why wouldnt you want to have him on your team for the last couple of months and playoffs. This all depends on how Nixon plays.

 

Murphy and one of the pitching prospects i mentioned probably wont have a spot on the team in the future. Ellsbury, Soto, Moss and Crisp are all young OF who are more talented than Murphy.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

Ive seen a lot of good points about Trot. In summary, he was a phenom, that didn't work out to expections, he couldn't ( and still can't hit lefties ), he never hit for the power expected, and has slowed a step or two in the last couple of years. Plus side, he'll give you all he's got. But, he's in the last year of his contract, can't play center and I doubt he can out play any of our first basemen. So what's his trade value or value to the Sox for next year. I'd say he's gone after this year.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

If Nixon is injured and has the type of season he's had the last couple of years compared to what Lee puts up, why wouldnt you want to have him on your team for the last couple of months and playoffs. This all depends on how Nixon plays.

 

Murphy and one of the pitching prospects i mentioned probably wont have a spot on the team in the future. Ellsbury, Soto, Moss and Crisp are all young OF who are more talented than Murphy.

 

 

Even so, decent prospect and you're still losing Arroyo...

 

Like I said, WHY TRADE ARROYO AND DECENT PROSPECTS FOR HIM WHEN WE CAN SIGN HIM AND LOSE NOTHING BUT MONEY!!!!!!