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[Jasonbay44]

Lebron James' date=' Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Durant, Derek Rose, Kevin Love, Pau Gasol.[/quote']

 

Melo is definitely better then Kevin Love and you make a case over a couple of those other guys as well.

[Flynnatic10]

name your top 10

 

LeBron, DH12, Wade, CP3, Deron Williams, Kobe, Dirk, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Pau Gasol.

[snydersminipretzels]

Melo is definitely better then Kevin Love and you make a case over a couple of those other guys as well.

 

Definitely better? Kevin Love has Moses Malone numbers in his third year. He doesn't hog the ball like Carmello, and still averages 20 PPG.

[italstallianion]

LeBron' date=' DH12, Wade, CP3, Deron Williams, Kobe, Dirk, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Pau Gasol.[/quote']

 

 

I'd put Melo over Deron Williams, and maybe 1-2 others on the list, but I'm not too sure. I'd also put Melo over Kevin Love as well. (For now, in a few years we'll talk)

[Jasonbay44]

Definitely better? Kevin Love has Moses Malone numbers in his third year. He doesn't hog the ball like Carmello' date=' and still averages 20 PPG.[/quote']

 

Love does nothing to contribute wins. He puts up numbers, which is great, hes a good player, but he rarely has a big impact on the game, as it shows by his teams win/loss record. Love is one of the worst defenders in the NBA, he is just a good rebounder. Melo is an elite scorer who when he wants to be can be a good defender, like in last nights game.

 

Id consider Love maybe a top 20 player in my opinion, Id much rather have guys like Lamarcus Aldridge, Zach Randolph and Kevin Garnett at the PF position alone over him right now, but in the future he could be a top 10 player, although I doubt it.

 

My top 10 in no order would be: Lebron, Kobe, Dirk, Durant, Rose, Dwight, CP3, Melo, Wade and Pau Gasol.

[suns]

Want to know my top 10?

 

Too bad I'll tell you anyway

 

In no order: Kobe, Durant, Melo, Amare, Dirk, Wade, Howard, Rose, CP3, anddddd Deron Williams

 

 

For my future top 5 players in 5-10 years: Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Favors, Griffin

[Cocos Disciples]

Want to know my top 10?

 

Too bad I'll tell you anyway

 

In no order: Kobe, Durant, Melo, Amare, Dirk, Wade, Howard, Rose, CP3, anddddd Deron Williams

 

 

For my future top 5 players in 5-10 years: Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Favors, Griffin

 

LeBron James: Not a top 10 player in the league.

[snydersminipretzels]

Love does nothing to contribute wins. He puts up numbers, which is great, hes a good player, but he rarely has a big impact on the game, as it shows by his teams win/loss record. Love is one of the worst defenders in the NBA, he is just a good rebounder. Melo is an elite scorer who when he wants to be can be a good defender, like in last nights game.

 

Id consider Love maybe a top 20 player in my opinion, Id much rather have guys like Lamarcus Aldridge, Zach Randolph and Kevin Garnett at the PF position alone over him right now, but in the future he could be a top 10 player, although I doubt it.

 

My top 10 in no order would be: Lebron, Kobe, Dirk, Durant, Rose, Dwight, CP3, Melo, Wade and Pau Gasol.

 

I don't see how you can blame Love, because the Timberwolves are a horrible basketball team. If you look at PER ratings Love is ranked higher than Carmello Anthony, plus Anthony has never been ranked in the top 10 in his career.

[Youker20]

Lebron is overrated, i agree with suns that he isn't a top 10 player in the NBA, id rank him 12th.

[italstallianion]

Lebron is overrated' date=' [b']i agree with suns[/b] that he isn't a top 10 player in the NBA, id rank him 12th.

 

 

That's setting yourself up for trouble.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Lmao, I can't even tell if you're serious or not but that statement is comical.

 

Edit: Intended for Youker.

[suns]

Lebron is overrated' date=' i agree with suns that he isn't a top 10 player in the NBA, id rank him 12th.[/quote']

 

I like you

[Flynnatic10]

Want to know my top 10?

 

Too bad I'll tell you anyway

 

In no order: Kobe, Durant, Melo, Amare, Dirk, Wade, Howard, Rose, CP3, anddddd Deron Williams

 

 

For my future top 5 players in 5-10 years: Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Favors, Griffin

 

Lol@ amare. Im a knicks fan and hes like top 15.

 

BIASED MUCH?

[suns]

Lol@ amare. Im a knicks fan and hes like top 15.

 

BIASED MUCH?

He is one of the best if not the best PF in the NBA

 

 

I'm talking about the rookie and sophomore only in the 2nd part and no.

[Flynnatic10]

I'd put Melo over Deron Williams' date=' and maybe 1-2 others on the list, but I'm not too sure. I'd also put Melo over Kevin Love as well. (For now, in a few years we'll talk)[/quote']

 

How is Melo>Williams? Deron led the Jazz to playoffs with a banged up Okur, Boozer and AK47 and he BEAT the Nuggets by himself.

[Flynnatic10]

He is one of the best if not the best PF in the NBA

 

 

I'm talking about the rookie and sophomore only in the 2nd part and no.

 

PF's better than Amare

Gasol

Dirk

Duncan (Even though its a career low season)

Chris Bosh

 

4 of the are UK players, only Wall is realistic of the UK guys.

[italstallianion]

How is Melo>Williams? Deron led the Jazz to playoffs with a banged up Okur' date=' Boozer and AK47 and he BEAT the Nuggets by himself.[/quote']

 

 

Sometimes I have to remind myself that you're only 14-15. It almost prevents me from facepalming a lot of your posts. I mean you may have Suns beat when it comes to NBA talent evaluating, but not much else.

[suns]

Cousins has mature problems but will work it out before the 5-10 year period.

 

Chris Bosh is too weak to be better than amare.

Duncan is too old to do anything now.

Dirk is on the list

[italstallianion]

PF's better than Amare

Gasol

Dirk

Duncan (Even though its a career low season)

Chris Bosh

 

4 of the are UK players, only Wall is realistic of the UK guys.

 

 

I think that only 3 of those 5 were Kentucky players. Favors was Georgia Tech and Griffin was Oklahoma. That said, Kentucky does recruit a lot of top talent, but I wouldn't consider Bledsoe near the top, and I wouldn't put Cousins near the top 10. Wall can speak for himself, but Cousins would need a lot of work to be in the same sentence as a lot of the top players. I highly doubt that Cousins will be the best player on his own team in that time frame.

 

That said, Flynnatic, you do make a good point about Sun's bias. I think that we can already telegraph Sun's opinions without Suns even saying anything do to how predictable his biases are.

[suns]

I actually couldn't think of any more rookies and sophomores off the top of my head

[Flynnatic10]

Cousins has mature problems but will work it out before the 5-10 year period.

 

Chris Bosh is too weak to be better than amare.

Duncan is too old to do anything now.

Dirk is on the list

 

Looking at stats, Amare only has the edge in scoring, Duncan leads everything else.

Bosh Weak? Hes averaging the same amount of rebounds as Amare this season. Bosh has a higher career rebounding stat.

[Flynnatic10]

I think that only 3 of those 5 were Kentucky players. Favors was Georgia Tech and Griffin was Oklahoma. That said, Kentucky does recruit a lot of top talent, but I wouldn't consider Bledsoe near the top, and I wouldn't put Cousins near the top 10. Wall can speak for himself, but Cousins would need a lot of work to be in the same sentence as a lot of the top players. I highly doubt that Cousins will be the best player on his own team in that time frame.

 

That said, Flynnatic, you do make a good point about Sun's bias. I think that we can already telegraph Sun's opinions without Suns even saying anything do to how predictable his biases are.

 

My bad, I misread.

[Flynnatic10]

I actually couldn't think of any more rookies and sophomores off the top of my head

 

Tyreke Evans

Brandon Jennings

DeMar DeRozan

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

How is Melo>Williams? Deron led the Jazz to playoffs with a banged up Okur' date=' Boozer and AK47 and he BEAT the Nuggets by himself.[/quote']

 

While this is true we didn't have George Karl. I'm not saying we would have won if he was there but it would have a made a difference.

[suns]

Looking at stats, Amare only has the edge in scoring, Duncan leads everything else.

Bosh Weak? Hes averaging the same amount of rebounds as Amare this season. Bosh has a higher career rebounding stat.

 

I'm not talking about rebounds for bosh. I'm talking about physically weak

[Flynnatic10]

I'm not talking about rebounds for bosh. I'm talking about physically weak

 

Amare is only 5 pounds heavier than Bosh.

[suns]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9oInCQNzvs

[Flynnatic10]

[suns]

Someone actually touched him in the Amare video

[Flynnatic10]

I'm pretty sure Boozer was posting up on Bosh at first and that threw him off.