Jump to content
Talk Sox
  • Create Account

Recommended Posts

Posted

For some reason I was just thinking about this and I want everyone to hear me out. I am not at all going to even attempt to defend what A-Rod did to Arroyo because it was 100% against the rules, but I believe that he should have been called safe. Now all of you who are about to exit out of this thread because of how crazy was I just said was, I ask you to read the whole post. When the play first happened A-Rod was originally allowed to stay at second and Jeter was allowed to score. The umpires the huddled up and decided that A-Rod (the batter) intentionally interfered with a ball in play. Whether an offensive player intentionally interfered with a ball in play is a judgement call. I believe but am not entire sure that the umpires are not allowed to huddle up to discuss a judgement call. The only reason I say this is that I am sure you are all familiar with the Jeffrey Maier incident. When the umpire Richie Garcia made a judgement call that the ball reached the stands on its own, the umpires never huddled up to discuss it. It is not like whether a home run is fair or foul because that is a "black and white" call. I believe that a player interfering with a ball in play is just as much a judgement call as balls and strikes.

 

Keep in mind, by no stretch am I trying to say that the Red Sox did not deserve to beat the Yankees which they certainly did. All I am saying is that I am not sure if the play should have been reversed. I understand that this is water under the bridge, but I just keep hearing (especially on this site) that a lot of people talk about the play. I am just wondering if anyone who has more knowledge about the rule then I do, could tell me whether I am right or wrong.

Posted

Are you still in doubt that you blew a 3-0 lead? A-Rod should NOT have been called safe. It is against the rules to interfere with a ball in play, and that is exactly what he did. It's in the rule book.

 

I also noticed how you guys threw trash all over Yankee Stadium after the CORRECT call was made...so much from the classiest fans in baseball.

 

But anyway...No. He's out. I believe they huddled to get everything on the play together and see what teh ruling on Jeter would be: whether he had to return to base or whatever. And who cares about past events? The umps can huddle whenever the f*** they want. They were huddling and discussing a rule IN THE RULE BOOK.

Posted
Yeah, I guess your right, but I think I mentioned before that the Red Sox won the series fair and square and deserve everything that they won.
Old-Timey Member
Posted
The governing body of the MLB umpires, whatever it is called, actually discussed these types of issues after the Jeffery Maier incident. They concluded that it would be best for baseball to try and get the call right, therefore they are in favor of in-game conferrences regarding calls on the field. In that same game they met and ruled on the Bellhorn homerun that hit the fan and bounced back into the field of play. That wasn't initially ruled a homerun by the left-field umpire, but the right call was made after the conferrence.
Posted

 

I said CORRECT calls ;)

 

But yeah, can't get on you for that. Every team has a large fanbase that would do something like that.

 

Remember a few years back in Anaheim when the fans got pissed at how terrible the team played and they littered the field including with the Rally Monkey? :lol:

Posted
i was watching one of those countdown lists shows on espn, and it was for back in the 70s i believe and for the Cleveland Guardians at their stadium, like only 1/3 of the seats were being sold each game. So actually true story, somebody in upper management thought "hey how about this, we will have a night where each cup of beer costs 10 cents" haha, long story short having whole stadium full of wasted cleveland indian fans watching their team lose, a riot ensued in the stands and on the field as well
Posted
I remember in 2001 when the Yankees converted Chuck Knoblauch to left field, he was playing as an outfielder in the Metrodome for the first time. They had a 1 dollar hot dog night and the fans pelted Knoblauch with hot dogs.
Posted
i was watching one of those countdown lists shows on espn, and it was for back in the 70s i believe and for the Cleveland Guardians at their stadium, like only 1/3 of the seats were being sold each game. So actually true story, somebody in upper management thought "hey hoe aboutb this, we will a night where each cup of beer costs 10 cents" haha, long story short having whole stadium full of wasted cleveland indian fans watching their team lose, a riot ensued in the stands and on the field as well

 

 

Ha, can you imagine them doing that at Fenway? Or....whatever the Brewers stadium is? :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted
For some reason I was just thinking about this and I want everyone to hear me out. I am not at all going to even attempt to defend what A-Rod did to Arroyo because it was 100% against the rules, but I believe that he should have been called safe. Now all of you who are about to exit out of this thread because of how crazy was I just said was, I ask you to read the whole post. When the play first happened A-Rod was originally allowed to stay at second and Jeter was allowed to score. The umpires the huddled up and decided that A-Rod (the batter) intentionally interfered with a ball in play. Whether an offensive player intentionally interfered with a ball in play is a judgement call. I believe but am not entire sure that the umpires are not allowed to huddle up to discuss a judgement call. The only reason I say this is that I am sure you are all familiar with the Jeffrey Maier incident. When the umpire Richie Garcia made a judgement call that the ball reached the stands on its own, the umpires never huddled up to discuss it. It is not like whether a home run is fair or foul because that is a "black and white" call. I believe that a player interfering with a ball in play is just as much a judgement call as balls and strikes.

 

Keep in mind, by no stretch am I trying to say that the Red Sox did not deserve to beat the Yankees which they certainly did. All I am saying is that I am not sure if the play should have been reversed. I understand that this is water under the bridge, but I just keep hearing (especially on this site) that a lot of people talk about the play. I am just wondering if anyone who has more knowledge about the rule then I do, could tell me whether I am right or wrong.

I agree with you 100% on that. Alex should have been called safe! Boston may have won against NY, but if that was what helped them, they did it by cheating.

Posted
I agree with you 100% on that. Alex should have been called safe! Boston may have won against NY, but if that was what helped them, they did it by cheating.

Laughable. You don't need to pretend that you're a sox fan anymore, really, its ok.

Posted
I agree with you 100% on that. Alex should have been called safe! Boston may have won against NY, but if that was what helped them, they did it by cheating.

 

Um, there's a rule about interference with the hands. So no he shouldn't have been called safe.

Posted
I agree with you 100% on that. Alex should have been called safe! Boston may have won against NY, but if that was what helped them, they did it by cheating.

 

 

After all the times the Sox have goten screwed by umpires calls in the past, this time a BEVY of play-off umpires agreed that there was a rules violation- A-Rod CHEATED and was called on it. Don't be such a child.

Posted

I don't think he "cheated" - it was a umm...reflexive, I guess. It's ridiculous all the flack Alex got about that play - I'm sure he wanted to be in that funny little pose (all that's missing is that Photoshopped purse), "slapping" the ball to desparately get an out - sure sounds like a pre-meditated thing to me!

 

But it was the right call, interference, and if the Yankees were championship-caliber, they wouldn't need a benefit of an ump call.

Posted
He's right. It has nothing to do wtih him not being a Red Sox, or him being a Yankee, it has everything to do with him being an A-hole.

 

Hey just for old times sake lets relive that whole slapping at the ball thing.

 

 

 

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/gijoe4life/asb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/gijoe4life/A-RodSlapsBallG6-5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/gijoe4life/A-RodSlapsBallG6-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/gijoe4life/A-RodSlapsBallG6.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/gijoe4life/ARodSchool.jpg

 

Come on ... what's not to love about this guy?

 

:)

Posted

He's an a-hole strictly for that one play? Oh he has his verbal moments, but I'll cut him slack on that one play.

 

...But I have to admit, I giggled at the pics. Niiice. :D

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
The Talk Sox Caretaker Fund
The Talk Sox Caretaker Fund

You all care about this site. The next step is caring for it. We’re asking you to caretake this site so it can remain the premier Red Sox community on the internet.

×
×
  • Create New...