Rotoworld Predicts 2005 Red Sox Statistics

[YanksHater213]

1. Johnny Damon .284 BA 20 HR 70 RBI 21 SB'S

2. Mark Bellhorn: .256 BA 19 HR 81 RBI 5 SB'S

3. Manny Ramirez: .327 BA 36 HR 122 RBI

4. David Ortiz: .292 BA 38 HR 130 RBI

5. Kevin Milliar: .286 BA 22 HR 97 RBI

6.Edgar Renteria: .306 BA 13 HR 98 RBI 19 SB'S

7. Trot Nixon: .293 BA 24 HR 84 RBI 3 SB'S

8. Jason Varitek: .272 BA 18 HR 77 RBI 4 SB'S

9. Bill Mueller: .292 BA 13 HR 72 RBI

 

Starting Rotation:

1. Curt Schilling: 18-6 3.64 era

2.David Wells: 14-8 4.24 era

3. Matt Clement: 16-13 4.02 era

4. Bronson Arroyo: 15-9 4.12 era

5. Wade Miller: 12-7 4.01 era

 

Key Bullpen Players:

Keith Foulke: 6-3 40 saves 2.67 era

Mike Timlin: 5-4 2 saves 3.89 era

Alan Embree: 3-2 3.81 era

Matt Mantei: 3-3 1 saves 3.43 era

John Halama: 5-6 3.86 era

Byung-Hyun Kim: 5-1 3.80 era

Note: Only key bullpen people shown.

 

I would actually be pretty content if it came out this way. I definitely think that if the pitchers can keep an ERA right at or between 4.10-3.90, it makes us a dangerous team. I also have access to the Yankees predicted stats, so if anyone is interested in seeing them, request it and I'll get them.

[BoSox Rule]

I think Bellhorn, Ortiz, and Varitek will have better BA's. I also think Manny and Ortiz will hit 40 HR. Foulke's ERA is too high.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Looks good. I think some may do better or worse. I think Bellhorn and Varitek's averages may be higher, Nixon will hit more HR's, as will Manny. Overall if they perform that way a 100 win season is pretty much in reach. Post the yankee predictions, i'd love to see that.

[YanksHater213]

Heh, I just added the Yankees starters up, they 5 are predicted to have 83 wins between them... hold on, ill post them here in a minute

 

Batting Order:

1. Derek Jeter: .309 BA 18 HR 76 RBI 21 SB'S

2. Alex Rodriguez: .299 BA 45 HR 121 RBI 16 SB'S

3. Gary Sheffield: .307 BA 30 HR 115 RBI 7 SB'S

4. Hideki Matsui: .301 BA 26 HR 113 RBI 2 SB'S

5. Bernie Williams: .288 BA 18 HR 90 RBI 3 SB'S

6. Jason Giambi: .264 BA 25 HR 83 RBI

7. Jorge Posada: .275 BA 23 HR 90 RBI

8. Tino Martinez: .269 BA 18 HR 81 RBI 2 SB'S

9. Tony Womack: .269 BA 5 HR 46 RBI 27 SB'S

 

Starting Rotation:

1. Randy Johnson: 20-14 3.14 era

2. Mike Mussina: 18-9 3.80 era

3. Carl Pavano: 17-8 3.93 era

4. Jaret Wright: 14-8 4.18 era

5. Kevin Brown: 14-6 3.92 era

 

Key Bullpen Players:

Mariano Rivera: 4-2 42 saves 2.48 era

Tom Gordon: 6-4 5 saves 3.09 era

Paul Quantrill: 5-3 3.69 era

Steve Karsay: 3-0 3.60 era

Scott Proctor: 3-1 4.02 era

[Yanksin2010]

Heh, I just added the Yankees starters up, they 5 are predicted to have 83 wins between them... hold on, ill post them here in a minute

 

Batting Order:

1. Derek Jeter: .309 BA 18 HR 76 RBI 21 SB'S

2. Alex Rodriguez: .299 BA 45 HR 121 RBI 16 SB'S

3. Gary Sheffield: .307 BA 30 HR 115 RBI 7 SB'S

4. Hideki Matsui: .301 BA 26 HR 113 RBI 2 SB'S

5. Bernie Williams: .288 BA 18 HR 90 RBI 3 SB'S

6. Jason Giambi: .264 BA 25 HR 83 RBI

7. Jorge Posada: .275 BA 23 HR 90 RBI

8. Tino Martinez: .269 BA 18 HR 81 RBI 2 SB'S

9. Tony Womack: .269 BA 5 HR 46 RBI 27 SB'S

 

Starting Rotation:

1. Randy Johnson: 20-14 3.14 era

2. Mike Mussina: 18-9 3.80 era

3. Carl Pavano: 17-8 3.93 era

4. Jaret Wright: 14-8 4.18 era

5. Kevin Brown: 14-6 3.92 era

 

Key Bullpen Players:

Mariano Rivera: 4-2 42 saves 2.48 era

Tom Gordon: 6-4 5 saves 3.09 era

Paul Quantrill: 5-3 3.69 era

Steve Karsay: 3-0 3.60 era

Scott Proctor: 3-1 4.02 era

Jeter- couple more homers

 

A rod- couple more SBs

Sheff- More homers, in the 40s

Matsui- couple more homers

williams- lower ba

Giambi- about right

Posada- about right

Tino- more homers, more RBIs

Womack- higher average

 

RJ- ERA in sub 3 with single digit losses

Mussina- right

Pavano- right

Wright- Lower ERA

Brown- more losses, higher ERA.

Bullpen looks right

[BoSox Rule]

You realize Wright sucks? Sheffield won't hit 40 in NY either.

[Yanksin2010]

You realize Wright sucks? Sheffield won't hit 40 in NY either.

I know he suc.ks, but he'll be better than that hopefully. Theres no reason why sheff shouldnt be able to hit 40 with a now healthy shoulder.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

f*** s***, i don't like the yankees outcome.damn... lower it all!

[Sox fan in Tex]

2. Alex Rodriguez: .299 BA 45 HR 121 RBI 16 SB'S

 

Uhh.... 45 HRs? Seriously, who wrote that?

[YanksHater213]

Rotoworld... you know, A-Rod did hit over 50 homers twice...

[ahhchon]

yeaht, at arlington. yankee stadium hasn't had a righty 40+ guy since mantle is 61 i believe, he hit something like 50+ and he was a switch hitter. it's not easy for righties to hit hr's in yankee stadium... 35 hr in yankee stadium via a-rod could very well be translated to 40-45+ in arlington.

 

btw, johnny damon with 20hr's in the leadoff spot? i don't see him matching last years numbers, it would be great, but i don't see it happening.

 

bellhorn won't hit .250ish. he'll be in the .270 range.

 

the starters look good, if they ended up like that i would be pleased, and they are predicting good thigns for mantie, knocks on wood.

 

john

[Sizzlin22]

Whats the deal with Wake is getting put in the pen or is he starting?

[Yanksin2010]

If anybodies going to hit over 50 at YS, it'll be A rod.

[BoSox Rule]

One RH Hitter has hit 40 HR in Yankee Stadium. A-Rod isn't going to 40, he won't hit 45, and he is NOT going to hit 50.

[2090]

One RH Hitter has hit 40 HR in Yankee Stadium. A-Rod isn't going to 40, he won't hit 45, and he is NOT going to hit 50.

He could hit 40 actually, if he goes the other way like he used to do frequently in Texas.

[JethroTull]

Just looking at the starting pitching projections for the Red Sox and Yankees, it seems the Rotoworld folks are getting right in line with all the lofty praise being thrown New York's way. Their worst case still has each pitcher winning at least 6 more than they lose. Brown with only 6 losses, Wright and Pavano with only 8 each, Mussina with only 9, and RJ with 20 wins. Wrong on all counts.

 

Johnson is very much overrated. I see him at 17-13, 3.85 ERA,(More below). Mussina 16-12, Pavano maybe 16-11, Wright 12-12 if that, and Brown a question mark...give him 13-12 if he's lucky. They've got all but one NY starter under 4.00 ERA, and all but one Red Sox starter over 4.00. What kind of nonsense is this? The Yankee defense will get a little boost from Womack, but the rest of 'em haven't gotten much better.

 

Meanwhile, Boston adds Renteria to a steady defense, and picks up some power pitching, only to see lower marks all around than New York. Here is what projections such as these can't predict. I see Boston expanding on their Pedrovision pitching handbook. Having successfully stretched out Martinez all year in keeping him off the DL, look for Boston to unofficially have 7 different starters. More rest between starts, shorter outings, and a few extra days off sprinkled in. Wakefield and Halama will get 10 plus starts each, making this possible.(How many times has Boston needed a lefty spot starter over the years?).

 

Rotating in middle relief with types like Kim and Manteii will mean splitting up the workload all spring and summer. By mid-August, the staff will be fresh, and the jockeying for the official 5 starters will take shape. September will see the field narrow to four as far as post season starts are concerned. I see Schilling#1, Arroyo #3, and Wakefield#5. Between Wells, Clement, and Miller, one of these three will have to distinguish himself for the #2 slot. If used right, Wells has more big game experience, especially in New York.

 

Arroyo is the sleeper in the bunch. His ERA will stay below 4.00 all year. I look for him to have a strong season. Miller can be brought along slowly. Clement just needs to throw and not overthink the position. He won't be familiar with any hitters, but they won't know him either. If he listens to his catchers, he will be fine. Miller will likely wind up as the #4 starter when all is said and done.

 

As for the Yanks, too much is expected of Johnson. He has spent his entire career pitching either indoors(Seattle), or in hot climates(Houston and Arizona). The months of April, May, September, and October will make it much tougher to get and stay loose, as well as affecting his grip. He is much older than during his last time in the league, and he was getting hit pretty good when he left Seattle in '98. And Johnson getting the ace slot won't sit well with the moody Mussina. Pavano and Wright will find AL lineups taxing, and Brown can't be counted on.

 

Granted, a lot can go wrong for either club. But both will be there in the end. Unless the Twins can get another ace quality arm, Santana can only do so much, and the AL West is weaker overall than last year. But the rush to annoint the Yankee staff is misguided, IMO. Throwing all those egos together under Steinbrenner is a train wreck waiting to happen. Georgie Porgie can only sit on the sidelines so long. If Boston shoots out to a quick start(as I think they will), it won't be long before Big Stein hits the panic button. You can only outspend everyone for so long before you realize it isn't working. It's been 4 years running, and the cracks will start to show if the injury bug hits the pieced together Yankee staff.

 

Yankee fans have been foaming at the mouth concerning the MLB opener, but don't think for a second that Boston doesn't have this date circled as well. Burying New York early would pay huge dividends for Boston, and Wells knows a little something about pitching at the Stadium. Another overlooked item is that Boston has finally broken through the ceiling where New York is concerned. Don't forget, they were a bonehead decision from winning the '03 ALCS, and they took the season series last year before hanging the collar on the Yanks after spotting them a 3-0 lead, all while operating with a one legged man as ace. Just for comparison, the Celtics have never been the same once the Lakers got by them. While the Yankees still put out a quality lineup, the invincibility they once had was lost in the 2001 World Series, and they have struggled in every post season since. I don't see the recent additions making up the difference.

[Yanksin2010]

One RH Hitter has hit 40 HR in Yankee Stadium. A-Rod isn't going to 40, he won't hit 45, and he is NOT going to hit 50.

50 is pushing it, 40 easily. Hell, even sheff could hit 40.

[2090]

Johnson is very much overrated.

 

5 Cy Youngs and third place on list of K's makes him overrated?

[jlcrss9]

50 is pushing it, 40 easily. Hell, even sheff could hit 40.

A-Rod will hit 35, max.

[Yanksin2010]

A-Rod will hit 35, max.

Add 5-10 and you're closer.

[jlcrss9]

Add 5-10 and you're closer.

You have too much faith in the Yankees. A-Rod isnt even a true Yankee either. He plays for the money, plain and simple. Why else would he go to Texas when he could be living just as well playing for the Braves or some other contender every year? I still think he will get 35 max.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

A-Rod won't hit 45. 35 max like someone said. A-Rod hits stuff well on the outer half of the plate. and at yankee stadium it is easy for him to hit stuff to the right field, so everyone pitches him inside now, like they did in the playoffs, so he doesn't hit as much home runs. That is why his production in down. stuff thats homeruns in arlington to left and left center are fly balls to manny in Yankee stadium.

[Sizzlin22]

No noe and I repeat no right handed batter will approach over 50 HR's hitting in Yankee stadium 45 is pushing it.

[yeszir]

Yankee fans have been foaming at the mouth concerning the MLB opener, but don't think for a second that Boston doesn't have this date circled as well. Burying New York early would pay huge dividends for Boston, and Wells knows a little something about pitching at the Stadium. Another overlooked item is that Boston has finally broken through the ceiling where New York is concerned. Don't forget, they were a bonehead decision from winning the '03 ALCS, and they took the season series last year before hanging the collar on the Yanks after spotting them a 3-0 lead, all while operating with a one legged man as ace. Just for comparison, the Celtics have never been the same once the Lakers got by them. While the Yankees still put out a quality lineup, the invincibility they once had was lost in the 2001 World Series, and they have struggled in every post season since. I don't see the recent additions making up the difference.

It's been a while, welcome back. And that's a great point with the Celtics/Yankees comparison. We can only hope it works out that way for the sox, without the whole Kobe thing.

[JethroTull]

Thanks yeszir, all the pieces are coming together. This will be a home opener for the ages. Between raising the banner, getting the rings, and hearing that long awaited introduction....."Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to Fenway Park, home of your World Champion Boston Red Sox !", I'd better stock up on video tapes and get the VCR ready. It's been a long time coming. Looking forward to another great season.

(Note to 2090)...No one questions RJ's Fame status, just his effect this year. Time will tell.

[ahhchon]

god damn, the boston bias in you guys is INSANE.

 

lets start with a-rod not being a true yankee. that's the most bs phrase i've ever heard. first off, if you wear the uniform you're a damn yankee. i don't see what makes you more of a yankee when you win a championship. is don mattingly not a true yankee? he never won a championship. is clemens a true sox? he never won a ring with us.

 

i doubt a-rod can hit 40+ hr's but if anyone is going to do it again it's going to be this guy. he's a great hitter, everyone knows this. the odds are not great but he has the best chance of anyone on the team.

 

as for a-rod playing for the money and not the game. WTF is this ********. seriously. texas offered him 10 years 230 with 20 mill in bonuses and incentives. you're a LIAR if you said you wouldn't take that. it's not like he ran out there and did the negotiations. he paid an agent to get him the best deal. guess what, think of your favorite baseball player, each and everyone of them has an agent to go get the most money possible. look at tek for an example. he got 4 years 40 mill from the sox. it's something that was DEMANDED. a-rod didn't demand the huge contract from texas, they offered it to get him. judging by what you guys say tek is the one that is playing for the money and not the game, a-rod actually wanted to leave so he can win a championship with the sox!

 

yeah, he's a chump for slapping arroyo but all the sudden hate for a-rod cus he's a yankee is just pathetic, boston fans are babies, or the so called "fans". all of you were drooling into your bathtubs when you heard about the sox going after a-rod. now you guys bash him cus he's a yankee? please, he wanted to become a sox, i respect him for that and the fact that he's an amazing ball player and just that.

 

as for johnson being overrated, randy johnson is NOT overrated. look at his numbers, what are people talking about. i would johnson on the sox anyday anytime anywhere, anyone who wouldn't is a retard and knows nothing about baseball. johnson won't have an era of 3.85, that's just silly it's not even funny. if you said 3.5 i could see that, it's a bit pushy but it could happen 3.85 is very hard to imagine.

 

rant over

 

john

[PinstripesForLife]

This thread proves that red sox fans are the absolute worst human beings in the world (except Islamic extremists). So much talking! C'mon guys, talk some more please! Discuss how much the yankees players and new acquisitions suck. Talk about how Arod is "gay" and how he is a phony. Comment on George Steinbrenner being the business-owner you all envy to death. Talk about how you won ONCE in 86 Years. Folks, it's still 26-6(?) here. The red sox organization has been one of zero class since its founding. It was marked by racism, whiney fans, a losing tradition, and scummy players on the field. You have all the right in the world to celebrate for what transpired last year, but its getting annoying now. With opening day about a month away...this needs to slow down at the least. The yankees are the most motivated/pissed off group of sportsmen in civilization right now, and you're numero uno on their sh*t list. Have you realized why the yankees don't retaliate on these verbal attacks? Because they are the better men. They have more class. And when they get provoked to retaliate they just smirk, because they know last year will not happen again. I can't wait to see all of your depressed faces when Sheffield goes yard off Boomer, or Randy hands "Big Papi" a 4 strikeout game. Brace yourselves people, the yankees are coming.

 

Sincerely,

Diehard Yankees Fan, Eternal Red Sox Hater

[BigPapiEnFuego]

the absolute worst human beings in the world instead of islamic extremists? What kind of an idiot are you? We are worse then child abusers, rapists, serial killers and wife beaters, etc.? God, I'd love to knock you on your ass.

 

 

How did this topic come to this anyway? Argh.

[yeszir]

This thread proves that red sox fans are the absolute worst human beings in the world (except Islamic extremists). So much talking!

 

And the yankee organization is marked by fans who dwell in the past. This isn't 2000 anymore. Deal with it. And you need to reconsider your "zero class" allegations. Our boys have shown a hell of a lot more class than your team recently, and they had fun doing it. You talk all you want, but it's different then it was. (that's a Music Man reference right there)

[RedSoxRooter]

These numbers don't add up.... THEY ARE FOR FANTASY GAMES.

 

First I went out to rotoworld and added up what they have for Sox pitchers W/L

The total was 101 wins, 82 losses.

 

Then I added up the first post here with *Note: Only key bullpen people shown.

It comes to 102 wins and 62 losses.

 

Anyone else see a problem with these numbers?