Morosi: The Boston Red Sox Are "Monitoring" Joe Ryan

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Duran, Sandlin and another prospect like um... Mullins.

Brock proposed Duran as the centerpiece of a Ryan trade.   But if the Twins are trading Ryan, does he really make sense for them?

A third team (Philadelphia?) does change everything.

I still doubt Mullins is the final piece here…

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

As long as it's not Tolle, I don't care. He's the only near untouchable prospect to me. I'm not a huge Ryan guy, so I wouldn't include Tolle in that trade. In a trade for a guy like Skubal? I'm emptying the farm. 

Ryan is 19th in fWAR from 23-25 and age 29. Valdez and Cease are both better and are FA this offseason. The other real swing and a miss was not signing Sonny Gray last season. 

But would a Ryan-less Twins team want Duran?  They have outfielders with higher bWAR in LF (Bader) and CF (Buxton) already. Granted, Bader is only 0.1 better, but that still makes Duran an odd choice for an improvement. 
 

Catcher, 1b and RF look like bigger needs.  SS, too, but they have plenty of cash tied up there.  And no, they don’t want Casas. Not for Ryan, anyway…

I know you gotta give to get, but I'd avoid giving up any or our 5 rookies (Anthony, Mayer, Narvaez, Campbell & Dobbins) or Tolle to get him. They may hang up, if we deny them one. Twist my arm and it might have to be Dobbins from these 6 names. I might even want to trade Campbell before Tolle, but that might take more thought. His lack of position worries me. We have enough DHs.

How about this:

To PHI: Duran

To MIN: Abel

To MIN: Fitts, Arias, Early & Monegro

To BOS: Ryan

We keep all our top prospects, except Arias and maybe our top 3 pitching prospects, but MIN gets Abel & Fitts, a top SS prospect and two decent pitching prospects, too.

Is that enough?

If the Sox do this trade and extend Ryan, we'll look very well set up for a pretty long window, including several younger players at relatively low costs with upcoming arbs and reasonable extensions.