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Thanks Bell.
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True, and I’m fully aware that Cora could be doing nothing more than playing good cop out front, but behind the scenes could be saying, and doing things completely different.
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What words did I put in Cora’s mouth?Cora has said that he didn’t talk to Raffy about playing 1B, and wasn’t going to. That’s a fact. According to Shaugnessy Cora told him that the reason he didn’t talk to Raffy about playing 1B was, because he didn’t think Raffy would be good at 1B. That’s also a fact. what facts do you have to contradict either one. Don’t you you think Cora would have wanted Raffy at 1B if he thought that was what’s best for the team. The fact that he didn’t even approach Raffy about it should say everything unless you want to look in a completely different direction.
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Brez no doubt saw Raffy as a problem especially when Raffy told him to do his job, and JH no doubt saw this as a chance to get out from beneath that Raffy contract.
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I think Cora has favorites, but everyone gets playing time.
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I agree to a point, but the authority piece is where I have the big hang up. Brez wanted Raffy at 1B, but Cora did not, so to say it was a big problem could be stretching things. Cora did not see Raffy at 1B as being what’s best for the team, and to me that was strictly a baseball decision. As I’ve said before that if Cora had wanted Raffy at 1B I would completely agree with you, but it appears he didn’t, and maybe Cora told Raffy that,and that’s why Raffy went at Brez like he did. Just a thought.
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The whole crux of the matter, which I’ve thought from Day 1 is that Cora did not like the idea of Raffy at 1B, which according to Shaugnessy Cora told Shaugnessy exactly that. Now if Cora thought it would have been a good idea to put Raffy at 1B I could see going half hard ass on Raffy, but not to the point of threatening with the pine.
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It’s my answer, and I’m sticking to it.🤓
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For all intents, and purposes JH is really Cora’s boss, so let’s start there. Nazi soldiers?🤭🙈. I said in the beginning that when Raffy signed his contract he was promised by the RED SOX he would be the Red Sox 3B for the foreseeable future, and that’s what Raffy went on. In the very beginning Cora said he wasn’t surprised by Raffy’s reaction, and neither was I when Raffy was told he had to move off 3B. It shouldn’t have surprised anyone else either, but it sure did. I didn’t think the Red Sox would move Raffy off 3B this soon, but Brez changed that. I had no problem with Raffy moving to DH, but only with the way it was handled. I also thought any idea of moving Raffy to 1B was a bad move any time I heard it not only this year, but past years as well, which was often on here. Like I said if you go by JH is really Cora’s boss it changes every thing.
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I keep answering the question, and you keep over analyzing. Why? I already said it would never be a blanket yes, or no answer to me, and it would depend on the situation.
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#1 I wasn’t even talking about today’s discussion, and we had the insubordination discussion days ago when I said Raffy hadn’t been insubordinate, because Cora never even talked about moving to 1B with Raffy. I also know what insubordinate means, and for the final time Raffy was doing what was best for the team being the DH.
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I’ve already answered this. In this case yes. Brez, you, and all the others who thought putting Raffy at 1B was a good idea I think it was a bad idea , and so apparently so did Cora. A different time in a different situation I might give a different answer, but it would never be a blanket yes, or no.
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Bad names? I know you did say he was insubordinate.
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As I’ve said many times I’m not a cheerleader like you, and there is nothing wrong with being one, so I don’t post as much when things are going good, but while it may be true I post more when things are going bad it’s also true that for 4 years in a row now things have been bad more times than things have been good, so it’s all in context if you add it all up.
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You did say Raffy was being insubordinate before. I had already answered you on this before also. I gave the same response, and you gave the same response back. If its Wrong to side with Cora, and Raffy on this than so be it, but I’ve taken the same stance since day 1. Like I said I’m not a Cora guy, but Cora knows more about baseball than Brez IMO.
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I would never confuse you with someone else even in my weakened state of mind.
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I’m 100% okay with Cora not wanting to put Raffy at 1B no matter what Brez wanted. I’ve said many times that Cora knows Raffy better than anyone especially Brez. You can call it insubordination by Cora, but Cora didn’t think it was a good baseball decision, and I agree 100% with that also, and always have thought Raffy at 1B was a bad idea. I have said many times that had Cora wanted Raffy at 1B I would have softened my stance, but he didn’t, and i didn’t also. I’m not a Cora guy, and I wasn’t a Devers Forevers guy either, but from the facts as I know them I back both 100% in this matter.
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Cora said in an interview that he had not talked to Devers about playing 1B, and wasn’t going to. That’s evidence. Shaugnessy said in an interview that Shaugnessy himself had actually talked to Cora about Raffy, and 1B, and Cora told Shaugnessy that he did not think Raffy would be good at 1B, and that’s why he didn’t approach Raffy about it. That’s also evidence. There is no evidence to the contrary that I know of.
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I’ve been away, because I had a cancerous tumor removed from my neck in Portland. It certainly isn’t because the Red Sox are losing. As usual you are wrong BiG time again.
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If I had a $ for every time I heard Devers Forevers I’d be rich, but the minute Devers doesn’t do something you think was a good idea even if it wasn’t you turn on him, and call him all kind of names. 🤮
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Wha, wha, wha😂😂😂. This is all old news, and has already been explained. Yes he did not get Devers to try on a 1B mitt, because he didn’t think it was a good idea. He didn’t ask Devers politely, or any other kind of way about playing 1B, because Cora didn’t think it was a good idea. Devers playing 1B was always a bad, and stupid idea IMO, and guess what? Cora felt the same way, so as I said before to me it was NO problem at all except to you, and others who had a brain fart, and thought it was a good idea. Cora knew Raffy better than you, or anyone else, and it was a only a baseball decision that you, and others are still trying to make it otherwise.
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I’m not putting words in anyone’s mouth. I heard Shaugnessy say he had actually talked with Cora about Raffy playing 1B, and Cora said he didn’t think Raffy would be a good 1B, and that’s why he never approached Raffy about playing 1B, and wasn’t going to. No other reason was given, which I know doesn’t fit so many’s narrative on here that it couldn’t have been Just A Baseball Decision, which it sounds like to me. I could say I don’t know how so many could have been so wrong, but I do know.
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To me Cora not asking Devers to play 1B was not an issue at all. Cora didn’t think Raffy would be a good 1B, and if Cora didn’t think Raffy would be a good 1B he didn’t even ask, and he definitely wouldn’t demand it like you, and others thought he should. Pretty major it was, but opposite than how you meant it. Shaugnessy actually talked to Cora on this, and Shaugnessy said he even argued with Cora about Raffy, but Cora gave a big NO on the idea of Raffy to 1B for the reasons I gave above just as I assumed all along.
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It makes a big difference when the SP goes 5-6-7 innings, because the SP is still the make it, or break it to the success.
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Gio was coming off a rough one, so hopefully Buehler will be as good as Gio was last night.
