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So it has to be a rule change to rate an asterisk? Hank Aaron had 3000+ more at bats when he beat the Babes HR record. Do you think that should rate an asterisk? Same with Pete Rose breaking Ty Cobbs hits record with many more AB’s. Asterisk could be used many ways, and many times over.
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Lots of things, and changes to any game makes a difference in stats.
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Just asking if you thought about it, or just made a comment. Kind of like your idea of putting Major league teams back in the minors if they don’t win enough. Once again not criticizing, but just asking. The good news if you still want to see a short fielder on D you can always watch slow pitch softball. Bye Bye Felicia.
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Did they put an asterisk next to anyone who played counting a Sac Fly as a time at bat? Did they put an asterisk next to stats of players who took special vitamins, and set HR records? Did they put an asterisk next to stats when there were more games added to the schedule? I could go on, and on. Did you think about his, or are you just throwing out comments. I’m not criticizing, or anything, but just asking.
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Stupid? Your entitled to that opinion, but I disagree, and I’m entitled to that opinion. MLB may be messing up the Lockout/Strike, but it sounds like they are trying to make the game better again, and a pitch clock, and banning the shift are two things that will head in that direction. Can’t wait.
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It doesn’t bother you, and lots agree with you, but some like me it bothers, and there are lots like me also just not on here. Bottom line Bye Bye Felicia.
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Yes the shift has been around since the 20’s even before Ted, but when you increase the shifts in MLB by 50,000 in a ten year period, because of todays game of analytics has not made the game better. Yes batters could go the other way, starters could go longer, games could be shorter, and I could go on, and on. One opinion is no better than the other, but it looks like the shift is going bye bye.
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Another analytics detriment to the game.
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I said if we weren’t having this discussion I wouldn’t even think about it. Once again if we weren’t having this discussion I wouldn’t even think about it, but we were having this discussion, so I was thinking about it. I didn’t say you said any discussion on here was life important. Those were my words,my opinion, and I answered my own question. What’s weird is you telling me to think about the subject we are discussing, and not just make comments, and saying that’s not criticism.
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The opinions on here are no big deal one way, or the other, and that is what they are is just opinions, so what I think, or don’t think shouldn’t matter to you one way, or the other. I don’t give my opinion on here for you to agree, or disagree, and I don’t tell you how to think, or not think. Where does it say I wasn’t thinking about the discussion subject? I said if we wasn’t having this discussion I wouldn’t be thinking about it, so I didn’t say I wasn’t thinking about, so I wasn’t doing anything less than you, and just making comments. You tell me telling me to think about a topic, and just not make comments about something isn’t criticism just like you said one time that you disagreeing with Cora didn’t mean he was wrong, and yes it was, and yes it is now. You really think that discussions on here are so life important that you have to study like taking an important test. I got a News Flash. It isn’t.
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If we weren’t having these discussions I wouldn’t even think of how much money the owners take in compared to the players just like i don’t think of how much money the big colleges make off the players while they are in school. I don’t care what profession somebody is in I wouldn’t have sympathy for them if they were making $500K, and the company was making millions, so I guess I don’t look at it like the owners making money off the players even though they are.
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Moon I know you know my point, and we just disagree. I’m not against players making more money, and I have said there should be a payroll floor on what each team at least have to spend up to, which should give more players more money unless you load up on $30M+ contracts. I also don’t disagree that the owners try, and squeeze every last cent they can, and pay the players as little as possible, but because they are the owners they can try, and do do that.
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That’s my point that both sides need each other, and the owners like it, or not control the purse strings. The players are the show, but the owners put on the show.
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I did NOT say it wasn’t the same thing. I just said we were talking about baseball. I don’t really care what percent makes what either for the owners, or the players. I say if the owners can’t afford, or want to pay a payroll to make them competitive then sell to someone who can, and if a player can’t live off what he gets payed then go find another job that he can.
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Yes you could apply to other entertainment industries, but we’re talking about baseball. Yes there is money being made off these players, but like I said the owners put on the show. Why don’t the players put on there own show? Just like there is big differences on what owners spend on payroll there is big differences on what players make, and that’s why the average salary gets up to $4M+. What do you call a max contract, and what would you limit?
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As I have stated before I blame both sides, and I still do. I still don’t have any sympathy for the players even at $500K. How many non professional baseball players would like to make $500K, and could live more than comfortably. The players are the show there is no question about that, but the owners are the ones who put on the show, which the players can’t do without, and if they could they would. Has the owners bargained in good faith NO. There is no doubt to me that they wanted a fight, and had no intention of starting the season, which sucks all the way around, and is bad for the sport. Call the owners all the names you want, but that won’t faze them one bit. The only thing that would would be to hit them in their wallets, but that won’t happen either.
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Getting the bottom feeders to spend up would be the hard part, but that would be more money for the players.
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I agree with this mostly, and have been saying for a long time about having a hard cap on the bottom, and a hard cap on top would be the fairest, and best way to do things. Of course agreeing to what those numbers would be would be the biggest challenge.
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It’s the latter. If it was to spread the wealth there would be a tax on the bottom too.
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The best thing I like about this site, and noticed from the beginnings is how welcoming everyone is on here, and how they encourage new, and different views, and opinions. Some more than others. Not all sites are like that, but like I have said before that I read many papers, and listen, and watch different talk shows, and that there is a big world out there of Red Sox Nation, and the opinions on here are just a very small sample size of what Red Sox fans really think.
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They got the owners once before for collusion.
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You’re right, and I’ll do better.
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Who said anything about anyone having to go?? I didn’t, and I’m not the one making the change, but just applauding it. I didn’t have to listen before, and you don’t have to listen now. You might not like it, but I’ve heard lots of people who do.
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Well I think it would be fun, and entertaining.
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Something like that.