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Since the Braves extended him already they must have wanted him pretty bad, so maybe the $17M could have been negotiated down. I would have felt better if it was the other way around, and the Red Sox paid only $10M.
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So you are thinking the $10M freed up could have been added to some other money toward a FA signing? $17M more money would have helped even more, which some doesn’t think it would.
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We’ve beaten this subject to death, and no one is changing their opinion. I said in the beginning I liked the trade, but I just didn’t like having to pay the Braves $17M. Yes I can like one part of the trade, and not like another, which I was told I couldn’t do. I’m not discounting at all that the Red Sox picked up a young RHB with potential. 2B was a need, but not as big as starting pitching.
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It’s a win, win for the Braves. It’s a minor risk for $10M, and IF Sale stays healthy the Braves get a decent pitcher added to a good ball club, and gave up someone who was not in their plans. Grissom has potential, and is not a stud prospect like 1 said yesterday. He’ll hopefully turn out to be good, but he’s not a Bill Maz, or Robbie Alomar at this point.
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$17M on its own might not get you much, but why just stick on the $17M? That $17M could have been added to some other money to get something better. $27M could have even been added to other money to even get something better. Yes the Red Sox needed an improvement at 2B, but not as much as they need starting pitching, so to just frame the $17M isn’t an accurate picture, but to say the $17M the Red Sox are paying the Braves doesn’t count, or matter with what sounds like a strict budget that Bres is working under all adds up, and takes away from what can be spent.
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I don’t think it’s appeasing anyone.
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Wow! Name calling! I bet JH would disagree with you on the money.
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Still thinking that the $17M they will be paying Sale to pitch for Atlanta this year couldn’t be put to good use for this year?🙈🤭🙈.
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Heyman says complicated deal of around $30M guaranteed that could go up to $80M.
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Yes, but how many fans on here, and everywhere bought in to the full throttle statement like the Red Sox were going to go out, and land the Yam Man, or a Snell, and or Monty? I never did, and I’m still waiting for some trades that might not happen either' and then I’ll be with you, but not quite yet.
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There were 10+ people who declined to interview for Bloom’s job. That’s not an assumption, but a fact, and not a good look no matter how you want to slice it, and dice it. You made more sense when you were in hibernation.
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I’m guessing Breslow’s name wasn’t at the top of the big board in the Red Sox War Room when they were starting the process of who they wanted for the HOBO job, but had to cross off so many names who wouldn’t even interview. That’s pretty sad in itself, and definitely didn’t line up with Sam’s way of thinking that Boston is the place that everyone would want to be.
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And the funny part is it bothers the rest on HERE.🙈 Next they’ll tell us a team’s WL record doesn’t matter either.
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If it takes a so called trained eye to notice something, and a fan doesn’t have that so called trained eye it probably doesn’t matter to them anyway that only a trained would notice something that they didn’t. How many fans who go to a ballpark do you think all see the same thing, or care about the same thing?
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That’s what I asked earlier. How many stats would there really be in any sport if someone wasn’t watching somewhere somehow?
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The eye test makes me chuckle too. I’ve never said it was the be all end all. All I’ve ever said was it was good enough for me, and some just don’t like that. Like that makes any difference, or not, and it’s never changed anything.
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I know watching on TV is different, but I just didn’t put it in green. How would anyone know if some batter got a hit, or grounded into a DP? Eye test, and stats come from that. How would anyone know if pitcher struck out a batter, and with what pitch? Eye test, and stats come from that. How would anyone know if a runner stole a base, or got thrown out by the catcher? Eye test, and stats come from that. How would anyone know if a IF booted a ground ball, or made a throwing error? Eye test, and stats come from that. How would anyone know how much range a SS, or a CF has, or what kind of arms they have? Eye test. How would anyone know what went on in a game anywhere if someone wasn’t watching? Eye test. How many stats would you really have if someone wasn’t watching somewhere?
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I can’t believe that eye test in person, and watching on TV are two different things, but to say watching on TV is hardly worth anything I don’t believe is accurate at all. What did any analytic stat tell you that doing the eye test from TV didn’t when it came to how bad Kike was at SS last year, or how bad Raffy, and Casas was on D last year not to mention Franchy Strangeglove try to play 1B. Now I’ll admit being in person is better that watching on TV, but to say the eye test from TV is far from hardly worth anything. Then again it depends who’s watching.
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I don’t get angry, and it’s just so amusing that bells, and whistles have to go off in the first place when I mention old time stats. Getting angry just go back a few post when someone didn’t like me saying BTV is useless to me. That was getting angry.
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Eye test, eye test, eye test still beats them all.
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You’ve been at it a lot longer than I have. Once again bells, and whistles went off, because i mentioned RBI, and that was fine, but if I diss analytics, or the precious BTV it’s a crime. 🙈🤭🤮.
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Like I’ve said before if you like it it’s fine for you, but to me it’s just a useless toy. RBI, and BA sets off bells, and whistles whenever I mention it. That’s fine for me, and if anyone wants to use more advanced analytics, and it works for you that’s fine too, but I don’t use it, or need it.
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👍👍👍 I’m still waiting for a BTV accepted trade to actually happen.
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You’re glad. Cora’s glad. Dugy’s glad. The Yankees are glad. A win, win all the way around.
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Did anyone say it didn’t?? I just pointed out that it isn’t all that easy to replace JT’s, or Renfroe production, and they haven’t Your guy JBJ certainly didn’t replace Renfroe’s production.