Old Red
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Pedroia at 2B might have helped the decision, but if there wasn’t a big need in the OF at that time the move might not have been made.
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Thanks for filling me in, and setting me straight.
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I’ll repeat that the Red Sox had OF problems at the time, and that was the MAIN reason. Swihart, and Brock Holt being tried out there should have told you that. There just wasn’t a need, but a BIG need.
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That trade that Notin was all for turned into a head scratching discussion for more than a day on here.
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163 is what he hit in Milwaukee, and you was making excuses for him like facing different pitchers in different parks, and you was all for the trade, so I don’t think 163 would be classified as fat in JBJ’s case, but that’s where you took it, and for what purpose?
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Mookie wasn’t moved to the OF, which happed when he was in Portland at the time, because of Pedroia, but because for some reason the Red Sox were having trouble of producing OF at that time. Swihart got tried in the OF, and Brock Holt got put in the OF who hadn’t played there before, so that’s wrong on the Pedroia angle. You are way off base on this one.
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I was just throwing Mazeroski’s name out there. I could have said Chuck Schilling, Mike Andrew’s, Jerry Adair, Denny Doyle, or even the Rooster who moved to 2B.
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He also sucked at SS.
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That’s why the Braves were trying him in the OF.
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For a guy who couldn’t hit his weight.
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Tek in?
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What about the report that said Grissom was 68 out of 74 in 2B with 350 innings played on some D stat?
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Pooh, poohing a HOF? Wow!
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Especially if he had a chance to trade Sale, and his full salary, and didn’t do it.
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Grissom wasn’t in their plans anyway. Maybe, maybe, maybe, and if, if, if.
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I was talking more about D, but good stat.
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I think to many took Tom saying full throttle as going out, and signing any combination of Yam Man, Snell, or Monty. It’s always speculative on here the Red Sox are going to spend up to the CBT. I know they got up there at the end of 2022, but probably more accidental than anything, and definitely not productive.
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Saying the Red Sox paid in my opinion to much money to the Braves shouldn’t have ignited anything in the first place, but on here it did. It didn’t anywhere else.
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Since the Braves extended him already they must have wanted him pretty bad, so maybe the $17M could have been negotiated down. I would have felt better if it was the other way around, and the Red Sox paid only $10M.
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So you are thinking the $10M freed up could have been added to some other money toward a FA signing? $17M more money would have helped even more, which some doesn’t think it would.
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We’ve beaten this subject to death, and no one is changing their opinion. I said in the beginning I liked the trade, but I just didn’t like having to pay the Braves $17M. Yes I can like one part of the trade, and not like another, which I was told I couldn’t do. I’m not discounting at all that the Red Sox picked up a young RHB with potential. 2B was a need, but not as big as starting pitching.
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It’s a win, win for the Braves. It’s a minor risk for $10M, and IF Sale stays healthy the Braves get a decent pitcher added to a good ball club, and gave up someone who was not in their plans. Grissom has potential, and is not a stud prospect like 1 said yesterday. He’ll hopefully turn out to be good, but he’s not a Bill Maz, or Robbie Alomar at this point.
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$17M on its own might not get you much, but why just stick on the $17M? That $17M could have been added to some other money to get something better. $27M could have even been added to other money to even get something better. Yes the Red Sox needed an improvement at 2B, but not as much as they need starting pitching, so to just frame the $17M isn’t an accurate picture, but to say the $17M the Red Sox are paying the Braves doesn’t count, or matter with what sounds like a strict budget that Bres is working under all adds up, and takes away from what can be spent.
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I don’t think it’s appeasing anyone.
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Wow! Name calling! I bet JH would disagree with you on the money.