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He went to UCME LATER.
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Neither side chooses to play the Cashman game and go public... except for the side strategically "leaking" info to Heyman, of course. As for whatever offer the Sox made that so discouraged Bogaerts the day before the season, does anyone think for a second that our ivy-league front office doesn't anticipate every possible outcome of their very deliberate decisions in advance? There's no chance it was spontaneous at the last minute, like Ah, offer him 30 for another year -- what's the worst that can happen: a flock of lame ducks apathetic about winning for a lost cause... banging the doldrums slowly? Does anyone doubt that Bogie's gloom suddenly makes it likely he'll accept a midseason trade to a more "respectful" club that shows it really wants him?
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Bloom drawing align in the sand: "it was fairly clear early on that we weren't going to align. If we were seeing the world exactly the same, we would've aligned. But those guys are still here, and we didn't find that alignment this time..." -
I guess my position is that it's wrong to skimp when it comes to the most important position. Of course there are many examples of mixed mound history... from this century: maybe the Sox were right letting Pedro walk after '04, but replacing him and Derek Lowe with Wells and Matt Clement was a joke. Lowe won over 100 games post-Boston and started at least 32 games every year for a decade. The Beckett trade was a winner, but Lackey was overrated (especially as a Plan B after losing out on another free agent). Lester was a PR disaster... though Lester-for-Cespedes-for-Porcello turned out OK. Obviously, Price as Plan C wasn't worth the biggest contract in the history of the world. Kimbrel only cost prospects and was a necessary acquisition at the time. The Sale trade was great, the Sale signing not even good. Dombrowski's best pitching move was swapping for and signing Eovaldi. Bloom has been in charge since late '19 and his top transaction was swiping Whitlock from New York...
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Reading beat writers now stating the obvious, that the Red Sox didn't recruit enough quality pitching depth this winter, relying too much on a return to form by Sale. Maybe the Sox were right, and this is a literal return to form by Sale, who hasn't pitched a full season since his first year in Boston in 2017. The point I'll never agree with is when posters or execs argue that it's just not the right time -- yet -- to invest too heavily in quality pitching. It's always the right time, and you're never going anywhere without it, whether rebuilding or looking for a push over the top. The Red Sox had a losing record in 1997, but after the season traded for Pedro Martinez. Then Dan Duquette immediately locked him up longterm. Was that time right?
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That was my entire point. Tampa has so many prospects that they can spare a future top of the rotation arm for an old DH in a pennant race.
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The big problem is the Sox are facing Joe Ryan, acquired from the Rays by Minny in the Nelson Cruz deal. Ryan was Tampa's 765th-best pitching prospect...
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4/15 Twins @ SOX
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Well, Pivetta is our Number Two pitcher. Last metaphor: this one's on Bloom! -
I'm with her. The Brewers said Ok, as long as you take back Jack.
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If only someone deems him worth the cost of a Jalen Beeks...
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Bogey wouldn't be the first young pro athlete to accept a trade to a new team that has a chance to win and expresses a strong pitch to make him feel wanted.
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My point on the budget isn't how much is being spent but what we really argue about here (and at work, at home, pre-Covid bars, etc): who it is being spent on. For Bloom's goal of continuing to build the farm, some strategies have to shift. Even if the Sox let all their free agents walk and they finish last again, the new draft lottery makes it even harder to land a gem like Mayer. So where will the truly top prospects come from, assuming Boston stays competitive? Maybe from other organizations... ... which can make trading high-priced commodities like Devers almost desirable.
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They may already have. But he rightfully considers himself a $30 million per year player, which is the going rate for a top of the industry bat at his position. With the Red Sox, it's never about whether they are big market spenders. As many posters love to point out, Boston's payroll is one of the top three/four/five/whatever every single year. What this is all about -- what other posters continually counter -- is that the Sox keep changing budget plans, sometimes to align with trends, sometimes to defy trends. Bloom can give Story $23+ AAV, but then offers Bogaerts only $22.5 AAV? How blatantly disrespectful; it's like they're intentionally forcing him out the door (which may very well be the intention, to get X to soon waive his no-trade clause -- so Bloom will get something back instead of letting him walk for nothing). Seriously, how hard would it be to at least offer Bogie $25 AAV? They know Boras will reject anything less than $30 anyway, but at least the Red Sox wouldn't be spitting into the face of the franchise...
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In that case, can I have my old back back?
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It's also more fun than constantly reminding ourselves of what we already know: it's still early, before it's summer, before we near the deadline, before it's getting late. But don't forget: Devers' best month is July, JD's is August... and Bogie's is May (if his leg is healed by then).
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Bello will be up before the end of the summer; he's on the 40.
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4/12 SOX @ Tigers 1:10 PM
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
I didn't say a big ticket item. But the Braves were able to add four good outfielders in the middle of the season last year. One won a Gold Glove and led the NL in RBI, another won NLCS MVP, and a third was WS MVP... (the fourth wore a pearl necklace?) -
4/12 SOX @ Tigers 1:10 PM
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
I don't know if the announcers have said it, but I'm convinced Bogaerts hammy is cramping his hitting. He just cannot drive the ball with his legs. Arroyo looks like an MLB hitter. With Story out, though, it just weakens two positions not to put Arroyo at his natural spot. I know they want him to be an outfielder, but I want to grow my hair back, too. It will be surprising if Bloom doesn't add a legitimate MLB flychaser in the next month... -
Not a slam-dunk if just comparing 2004 -- the year denny referenced -- with 2018, Dombro's crown. Both GMs took clubs with stars inherited from past GMs and then made major moves or moves that turned out to be major that put them over the top.
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4/12 SOX @ Tigers 1:10 PM
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Conversely, can anyone ever remember a team that gets off to a hot start, say 15-5, and the majority its fans aren't excited? Or are warned not to be excited (except by bitter NY fans)? Do players of that team ever go, "Bah, it's still early...?" Do coaches or writers ever stress how important it can be to get off to a bad start? Who really thinks games in a September pennant race carry the same weight as in the first month of April? -
That's not very elite of you. Imagine growing up a Yankee fan in the 90s, and going through life feeling that anything less than a World Series ring is a failure?
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It may be impossible for younger fans and posters to fathom there once was a time when the most important goal in baseball was to finish first. Imagine fretting over day-to-day battles for six long months, instead of just aiming to peak for a few weeks in October? Winning The Pennant was actually a bigger accomplishment than one best-of-seven series in the fall. But that only mattered for a hundred years.
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That's hitting below the broken belt.
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4/11 @ Tigers
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Anyone who watched Baez' game-winning home run knows that pitch was out of the strike zone, so it's dumb to blame Braiser. How dare he throw one neck-high to a guy always swinging out of his heels? The game plan to beat Boston so far is to stay competitive through the first inning, and then the Sox won't mount a single rally the rest of the game (solo shots and ghost runners aren't rallies).
