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Pads get Manaea for their numbers 12 and 26 prospects. Someone with Sox prospect knowledge can dig up Boston's equivalents (assuming they're about equal to SD's)... ... then we'll have something new to argue about. ps. according to one Sox' website, #12 is Gonzalez, #26 is Hamilton (from the infamous Renfroe haul).
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Maybe we should just agree that any baseball statistic can have beauty in the eye of the beholder. It doesn't hurt to still respect opinions that find value in batting average or runs batted in or pitcher victories -- like many, many players, fans and writers did for a hundred years. I hope I always will, even while appreciating stats like OPS and WHIP. Just don't group me with Ghost wins, runners or anything... when the shades come back to haunt the game.
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I've accepted WAR, because it's designed to evaluate a player's overall value based on a combination of offense and defense. An issue for old-timers like me is that none of the WAR sites use the exact same formula, and even if they did, it's too complicated or time-consuming to calculate for the average fan (unlike counting stats or batting averages). Both Fangraphs and BB-Ref caution that WAR is an estimate and that players shouldn't be definitively compared to the tenths place. And yet, isn't our whole concept of numerical values based on totals? And could someone please tell me why past WAR changes? Everytime I look at the 2018 Red Sox, Mookie's WAR is different: 10.7, 10.6, 10.8... and that season is still in the past.
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Those charts are really helpful, and show the success if not value of top relievers. Maybe GMs and front officers still refrain from acquiring some veteran bullpen guys because of the actual high leverage mileage on certain arms (combined with veteran salaries, of course). We're can be sure Bloom and Co. have all the sufficient data they need to decide; Dombro, probably does, too, but ignores it!
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Only if he steps on the rubber (which is better than guys his age who are under the hill).
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Agreed, for the position players. For the pitcher lists, the B and D columns -- ERA and WHIP ratings -- maybe best represent the past half decade. I say this because as Sox fan I can't claim Sale has been the #1 guy in any league the past two or three years (as in C, the FIP). Also, Nola and Wheeler aren't top 5 in any lists but A; WAR for pitchers always seems a bit unreliable, compared to position players... maybe because it undervalues relievers who succeed in just as many high lev situations (just not as many IP).
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Every year, Rich defies the cliche by showing he's over himself.
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Thanks -- and I don't want you to research this -- but we also know that the "type" of pitches has to make a difference, as well. Barnes coming in to face the heart of the order with baserunners aboard in the 7th or 8th has to present different stress than Kimbrel starting the 9th with the lead and throwing to the 7-8-9 hitters. Now, certain guys who just aren't as effective coming into the 8th or in a tie game -- instead of a clean 9th inning save situation -- are candidates with what we might call a mental issue.
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First time I ever saw a pitcher get drilled, then relieved, and then insist on re-taking the mound the next inning to give more runs to his ex-buds. Whatta guy.
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By then, guys on this forum had stats that he was ineffective on back-to-back days, not hours. But Boston has been pushing him hard since at least '19.
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I always thought it was overwork for Barnes (though the closeups of him failing to spit are always a shaky visual). It seemed like it started when the Red Sox tried to use him like Andrew Miller in the teens -- in high leverage situations, no matter the inning. Those are really more work than the closer, who throws to guys anywhere in the lineup in the 9th, usually with the bases empty.
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The thing is, Barnes just sucks every August: '18 ERA 9.64, '19 ERA 5.23, '20 ERA 6.30, '21 ERA 13.50... If it's obvious to fans, the Sox and Matt know, too... and so far have no answers.
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As long as astute fans like us realize this and don't count on him as an ace, we won't be disappointed. At this point, it's best to accept that whatever the Sox get from Sale is a bonus. Maybe he'll ease back in middle relief, then become the lefty closer in the postseason. People can say no way, he's paid too much -- which is true if he does "nothing" (like he admits). But being a part-time reliever is better than nothing. p.s. the bullpen as a final destination is basically what happened with David over-Price in LA
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Vegas is giving NY the usual odds... which literally guarantees contradictions.
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Come on, everyone knows it was Nixon. Students of the Seventies still bemoan the Sox' lack of a back-up catcher with a negative dWAR like Russ Nixon from the previous decade.
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Mine too, but '74 was worse. In first place all summer, by as much as 7 games in late August. Then we went back to school all excited and September was like, What the Hell?
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Ok, but I can't see Bowden grading them on simply becoming more Jay... though I do think the Canadian law that forbids unvaxxed opponents has to favor the home team.
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Who am I forgetting for the Jays? Lost Ray, added Gausman; lost Semien, added Chapman... that's maybe like a wash, though Semien led the AL in WAR. Was Kikuchi enough extra credit to get Toronto an A? ps. I do think the Jays are the favorite, but mostly because they're young stars will have one more year to mature...
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With each name I read, I puffed out my cheeks like I was filling up a balloon. By the second Bonds I was levitating above the computer table... -
I know, I was being a sargasso. But with modern all-or-nothing swingers, this is probably within reach of some dudes...
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2022 Spring Training Games
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to mvp 78's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
This is the order I predicted, except I had JBJ last behind Vaz. Just had a feeling Cora would try to ease his new star into the lineup, without putting undue pressure on him right away. Now contrast this with guys that the front office forces on Cora, like Owings or Taylor Motter. Can just hear Cora... "Really, Chris Owings? Ok, he's batting leadoff tonight!" Boom: oh-for-five. -
Or starters?
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obp .200 + slg .700 = ops .900
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Right? I wasn't even a bitter fan yet... I looked him up: voted starting All-Star shortstop by the fans in '71 and '72 (ok, name recognition maybe)... but Aparicio also got MVP votes from the writers in '72, behind only Fisk and Tiant among Red Sox.
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That must have been cool watching a Hall of Fame DP combo on a team that literally won the pennant on pitching and D. As a disappointed 13-year old Red Sox fan, I only remember Aparicio for starting his Boston days in an 0-for-45 slump and then wiping out rounding third on what should've been an RBI-triple by Yaz in a big '72 showdown vs. Detroit.
