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Prediction: one of those three will be opening for Boston in the next month. Or bulking. And maybe setting upping. But not closing. Bearclaw is actually trying to reset his career by becoming a starter. So far in AAA, not so bad...
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A Realistic View of 2023: Part II
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Snell's a great baseball player. During the pandemic, neither my kid nor any of his friends could ever beat Snell in The Show. -
A Realistic View of 2023: Part II
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Bloom promised last winter he will surround Devers with talent. He didn't say what kind of talent, so... poets? Sculptors? Plumbers? Spaceman once asked: "What's really more important -- a good plumber or getting Rod Carew out with the bases loaded?" -
Michael Holley, Boston sports TV, says $700M. Wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy the Rays?
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Regarding Ohtani and the impending biggest contract in the history of baseball: teams that have gotten burned in the recent past on big-money, longterm free agent pitchers (signed or extended) will have no appetite, and that includes John Henry's Red Sox. There's no evidence Bloom will even spend half of the projected Ohtani price -- say $300 million -- on the next-best starting pitcher on the market. Even that will be too risky, on who: Urias, Nola, Stroman? But most Sox fans will probably agree Bloom absolutely has to do better than more $10M rehabbing vets on one-year deals. How about some in-between starting pitchers, like a few Kodi Senga-TYPE signings (5 years @ $15M)? Pitchers from Japan (ones that don't also hit 30 HRs) usually agree to more reasonable wages while initially proving themselves in the majors. Guys
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Mookie's too short.
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Roman Anthony, age 19, just passed Marcelo Mayer on the MLB prospect list? That should generate some serious talksox... Since being promoted to high A Greenville, Anthony has 21 hits in 16 games with an OPS of 1.331. For perspective, Ohtani leads the majors in OPS with 1.050. A few ex-Red Sox are 1-2 in career OPS: Babe Ruth 1.163, and Ted Williams 1.115. A year ago, another teenager Miguel Bleis, was the Red Sox All-Star outfielder of the future. He's hurt this summer, but now we have Anthony. Maybe not trading young prospects as they develop is better than acquiring mediocre cast-off pitchers to bolster the rotation for another furious run at the third wild card...
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But there is no Bloom history whatsoever that he is willing to offer market value for a multi-year contract to a frontline free agent starting pitcher. The closest he came to that was Eflin, who was apparently under everyone's radar -- except for those pitching alchemists in Tampa. Some posters like to insist (wish/hope/pray) that Bloom is just waiting for the right time to invest in actual under-30 starters... meanwhile, others insist it all starts with pitching, and the time is always now.
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I can see the White Sox maybe accepting this trade for one of these pitchers, but not for two under-30 starters receiving recent Cy Young votes. For a Chicago GM to keep his job, the return would have to be more of a sure thing than two position players with potential (one of whom is redundant with the presence of Andrew Vaughn) and three decent arms that right now look destined for the bullpen. Have to think the White Sox would surely start by asking for Bello for either Cease or Giolito... ... and hopefully, Bloom would end discussions there. Or shift attention to a cheaper albeit more mediocre innings eater in Lance Lynn. He currently leads the AL in home runs and earned runs allowed, so at least we know he throws strikes. Ugh.
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My math be off, but I think $700M is around one-thousand times the MLB minimum salary. So for the price of one Ohtani, the Red Sox could instead have 1,000 big leaguers making minimum wage. Now obviously he's a one-of-a-kind -- actually two-of-a-kind/once-in-a-lifetime -- ballplayer... and a thousand rookies probably won't turn into very many All-Stars or even regulars in a starting line-up. But you have to think Bloom and his boys could at least package together a couple hundred of them and trade for some all-purpose utility men and stretchable relievers capable of opening and bulking... I mean, Oakland has a run differential of MINUS 248 -- and Pablo Reyes, with a positive overall WAR and dWAR, couldn't make their club?
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But Ohtani could make us the Angels. A host on talk TV today said trade Mayer and Bello for him. His reasoning: Mayer might someday be a star hitter and Bello might be a star pitcher, but Ohtani is already both. He didn't say, though, that the Sox would then have half as many players in the line-up or on the roster. He also said to pay him $700 million... because then the Sox would be the talk of Boston again (like, you fools-- I mean, gamblers-- hey, at least Sam Kennedy would finally be telling the truth).
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Yup, and guys who attend universities with good baseball programs have at least a couple years of seasoning under professional coaches vs. better competition than kids with live arms in high schools. Even if not projected as first-round prospects, college strike throwers have value in completing pitching staffs at various levels of a farm system. And thus, they at least have a shot...
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Makes sense. So does using those later picks on college pitchers, whose development into a pro won't take as long as a high schooler.
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Good rundown. One thing we never hear about BPA is pitchers converting to regular positions. For example, half the Sox' picks yesterday were college pitchers -- were they the best players available or best pitchers available? I say this because growing up, and even through college, the best players -- guys with the arm to play shortstop or catcher -- are almost always also the best pitchers. And they all bat clean-up (and play quarterback and date the prom queen). Wakefield was a home run hitter in college, converted to pitcher in the pros when a coach liked his knuckleball. Still waiting on the Sox to try Dalbec, a collegiate star pitcher, on the mound... in the name of Ohtani, why not?
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No shortstop? Haven't you been following the draft thread? No first baseman? Just move one of the 12 new shortstops over -- they're all just "best player available" so can play anywhere. As for an ace, here's a thought: if the Sox were really going to spend $600 million, couldn't they just use those funds instead to sign the next three top free agent starters on the market? Then they'd be investing in an actual rotation...
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It's possible Sale will never be entirely healthy again, even if he has more great months like May 2023. What other $30 million dollar ace breaks a rib throwing a pitch, and a year later breaks a shoulder blade throwing another pitch? From now on, maybe we should just welcome spurts of Sale health as bonus rounds. Whitlock, unfortunately, is turning into another disappointment -- in perspective -- as the first under-30 pitcher Bloom locked up longterm. He's not the budget albatross of a Sale, but he is starting to look like damaged goods already. The Sox can't count on either, nor do they know for sure that Houck will return and not have issues (physical or mental) recovering from his injury. If Boston is serious about making a run this season, the club needs to add more than another bullpen piece that Kenley Jansen is requesting. Trading Paxton would only subtract from the rotation that is already 40% openers. The veteran position players on expiring contracts won't bring back any viable starting pitchers, either. If Bloom really wants to compete in the second half, he's going to have to deal some decent prospects from the minors.
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A Realistic View of 2023: Part II
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
The post didn't suggest a Paxton to the A's trade for Sears, but a Paxton trade to a "contender" who'd offer a kind of package, -- like Sears and others -- similar to what the Yankees gave up for Montas a year ago. -
A Realistic View of 2023: Part II
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I hope we do as well as that -- if we're on the other side of the deal. The desperate Yanks gave up what are now three big league pitchers (plus another minor leaguer) -- including JP Sears -- for Montas and Lou Trivino. That's the kind of package Bloom may be offered for Paxton -- and acquiring an under-30 starter like Sears for the rotation who's under control for the next five years may be too tempting to pass on... even if the Sox are still going for it. -
A Realistic View of 2023: Part II
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Of course -- fans want to win now, today, especially the day they pay for tickets to see maybe their one game in person for the year. Bloom and Cora know their club is too lopsided with lefty sticks, and that a legitimate playoff run would be greatly enhanced with a consistent righty power threat behind Devers. And since Duvall is already here and paid for, it would naturally be ideal if he could regain that opening week stardom... if his wrist will let him regain his timing. Meanwhile, maybe Bloom is working OT trying to pry southpaw JP Sears from the Oakland Lost Paychecks before another wild card rival does... -
A Realistic View of 2023: Part II
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Good points both, but we know good managers try to give their guys ample opportunities to bounce back, find their groove, figure things out, etc. They're usually looking at the long game, and know they need to see if players can improve or be trusted to help out later on, as well. The thing is, we'll never know how much input/influence/orders come from "the top." Franchy couldn't play outfield, but who specifically made him a first baseman? Who put Arroyo in RF? We know Bloom acquired Schwarber with no place to play him (even at DH), but who shoehorned him into first base... or did the CBO and skipper just look at each other, and shrug: "He can't be worse than Franchy..." -
Nazzan Zanetello tells it like it is: "I'm a five-tool player and a five-tool person." Hit -- he'll be an instant hit with the fans Hit with power -- his powerful personality will make him a team leader Throw -- he'll throw away any negative press (or posts) Catch -- and catch himself, before he responds in negative ways Run -- with positive body language, he'll run through the farm system to Boston
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Almost all shortstops or pitchers; draft fans rejoice! Early is especially intriguing -- a guy fans of pitch clocks will be rooting for. All those quick pitches gotta cause batters to be late... Nice work, Moon, pasting the reports. Thank you for your efforts.
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The Red Sox starting rotation -- long term
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to Fan_since_Boggs's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Red Sox reportedly one of eight MLB teams with scouts in attendance watching recent start in Japan by ace pitcher Yamamoto, age 24. Yoshida's ex-teammate has pretty good stats this year -- even if the two-time MVP is doing it in a league some equate to Triple A: 1.66 ERA, 101 strikeouts and just 12 walks through 92.1 innings... -
"add pitching, add a bat" (whispered a fan during the All-Star break)... ... some experts who take posts out of context actually offer alternatives; others just disparage others' opinions and reply with blasphemy. How dare anyone post something on their forum that they don't have to read.
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Yes sir -- from now on, I'll follow the strict forum posting rules as only defined by the tips of your erudite fingertips.
