Hugh2
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Ok, now I'm actually concerned about Red. Guilt is sinking in, does anyone have his contact information? I think we need to check in on him.
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But do they need to? They could dfa a guy at any time right?
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This is true, but he never stays down and out for too long and always has a 120+ inning season in him. He doesn’t have the talent, but he’s the opposite of Sale who dies down and stays down. Makes you think he if signed the same 3/39 deal Anderson did he’s probably be worth it. Maybe he has one bad season missing games, one good season that pays the bulk of the contract and one inbetween. I’d be more than happy with the picks and an upgrade, but if Nate could be had for a lower AAV I’d happily welcome him back. Who says no to 4/45?
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I speculated if the Sox would try to get Eovaldi for 4/45. Maybe 3/39 is better. I hope this comment doesn’t come off the wrong way but Nathan is the most durable always gets hurt pitcher I’ve seen.
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One wonders if he could be more durable in shorter stints out of the pen. If it works, he has the stuff to be one of the best closers in the game. Not sure if he’s be open to the move, but with the way closers get paid nowadays and his track record as a starter….maybe?
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Let’s see those 2023 outfields $5 per, $100 per Red (minus Kike) click is ticking…tic tok
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Anyone notice how Red has been MIA after I went all put up or shut up on him? He totally strikes me as the type of guy to disappear and come back in a day or two with some story about his aunt dying or his dog getting run over. Refusal to concede at any cost! Here’s the real kicker. It ain’t even about being right or wrong. Just name your outfield.
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Correa also doesn’t lose you a pick. It’s the perfect t move for a guy like Bloom trying to make a big splash with an owner who will actually back such a move and allows him to retain his coveted draft picks.
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I don't think the team, or any team make long term investments on the basis of players who are below AA. That's a mantra I've seen repeated by industry experts time and time again. Also, if you're signing Bogaerts, if they do it's because Bogey isn't getting what he thought he would on the open market and is comfortable coming back here with the ideal he moves to 3B in 2-3 years. Also, you can't rule them signing Correa out. I seriously doubt Kike is starting at SS next year. He's started a total of 64 games there his entire career, I don't see how they make him a full time SS at 31 when they have 95 million to spend and 4 elite SS on the market. Maybe he's their back up plan, but it's probably plan f or k at this point. IMHO.
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If 2024 is the start date. To me, the most viable use of resources this offseason would be to use the cap space to bring in contracts for prospects to trade or MLB players with a lessened price tag. Obviously big deals will be made. I'm sure the Sox make at least one BIG FA signing this offseason with a mixture of other types of moves.
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I hope that makes sense.
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Again I'm not saying they're a comp, but they're 100% tied into each other. Both are SS on the market this year. For the reasons YOU suggested I'm saying Correa will get paid more, but he's going to set the market. Yes, Correa is going to get paid much more, but it will still be indicative of what Bogaerts may get. If COrrea only gets $225, then Bogaerts is probably looking at a payday in the 15-180 range. If Correa gets 300, Bogaerts is probably looking at a payday in the 225 range. Much less I agree, I feel if I was comparing them I'd be saying they get the same money. Not comparing them, but they're connected and tied to one another. The reverse is also true. If Bogaerts signs for 200 million today, Correas camp is going to say "look what he got" "I'm younger and better I want 300"
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In the spirit of the argument, I expect him to build an outfield minus Kike, because he did not like the signing. I would concede him using Kike as a 4th guy seeing how everyone else gets to use Kike. But, everyone else gets $5 contribution, he gets $100
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This really sucks, because they're rebuilding the farm and you'd think they're 1-2 years away from being able to trade away from depth and hold onto high-end assets in the name for sustained success. With the budget they have it would be the season you'd WANT them to spend big in FA.
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Ok, so I only went back a few pages into yesterday and decided to count other posters who put their outfield together as part of my ploy, including myself. So far we have: Notin 5Goldgloves Moon MVP Hugh That's $25 so far
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I was actually looking at Nimmos games played and I'm already having buyers remorse. I like him, but there's risk there. I'd be open to a defensive stud, stop gap out there if they're upgrading the offense in another place and improving the pitching.
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Red missed the deadline last night.....weird. He's normally insanely active on this board during these early hours. Weird...hmmmm. Well do not fret my friends I'm extending my offer until 10:00 PM tonight. OLD RED: I will donate $100 to St. Judes Children Research Hospital in your name if you tell us YOUR starting 2023 outfield without Kike. What you would $ for FA's and prospects you would trade would be honorable, but not expected. You know what, lets make this fun. EVERYONE ELSE who gives me their starting outfield in 2023 (you guys with or without Kike) I will up the $100 by $5 each.
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It's funny how people like Bogaerts and Judge are going to get around 200 to 300 as 30 year old players and Kike can't be an everyday player for 10 million at 1 year older.
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Wouldn’t be my choice, but one of the ideal I love about Kike in Center and signing another CFer to play right (Nimmo) is if Xander or Story goes down hypothetically you could move Kike to middle infield. Not saying that’s plan A, but it’s an option. I suppose adding Kiermaier with Kike In center gives them the same flexibility. I’m ok with it if they’re upgrading the offense elsewhere.
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I’m not a big Gallo fan but if he comes cheap and the money is used wisely on pitching investments and/or going big on Correa I’m ok. I don’t remember where I read but apparently Gallo was the one player who was statistically hurt the most by the shift. Perhaps he’s a good buy low candidate
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$100 dollars donated to St. Jude’s Childrens Research Hospital if OLDRED names his 2023 Starting outfield if Kike wasnt resigned. Here’s mine with Kike: Verdugo/Kike/Nimmo signed at 5/105 He has until 10 pm tonight. Tik tok. Put up or shut up time.
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It’s not a comp. I think it’s a forgone conclusion Correa is going to get paid more than Bogaerts but it’s a gauge of the markets. If Corre gets 300 Bogey is getting 250. If CC is getting 225-240 Bogey is probably getting something south of 200
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True, at other posters stick around. Drive-by is the perfect analogy
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Still can’t name names. $100 dollars. I’ll donate it to ST. Jude’s Children Research Hospital and post PROOF of it. Think of ALL the time you spend complaining, arguing back and forth, claiming to have a good opinion based on no opinion at all. How do you know a better option than KIKE exists if you can’t even name ONE name.
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That’s fine, but you’re also tying up 75-80 million in just Verlander and Bogaerts. You still need an outfielder, and at least 2-3 more pitchers. Makes a Devers extension, or a Bogaerts reunion unlikely. Both unlikely, I think one happens. Still, if the SS FA market goes crazy, the Sox may go this route. IF someone signs Correa for 290-300 million, Bogaerts is getting a lot more than 160/180. I don’t think that happens….but it’s really hard to predict the market. Especially this year. With the shift changes, there will be more value on up the middle defense, and with not a lot of talent elsewhere in the FA market teams looking to add offense could be thinking of moving a SS to 2nd/3rd and sign one of the big 4.