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  1. Hugh2
    Is it? Yoshida criticized by many here Duval criticized by many here Turner criticized by many here Mondesi, Chung, Kluber, Jansen, Martin, Joely, and Mills. To varying extents, all of these moves were harshly criticized by many in here. Why on gods green earth would we think Strahm would be any different.
  2. Hugh2
    I know. That was sarcasm. In my opinion, I don't think that is accurate at all. I think in hindsight it's easy to say that. Strahm last started in 2019 and had an ERA north of 5.00 This team needed serious pitching help and people were looking for "upside" People criticized almost every move made this offseason because it seemingly wasn't "big enough" or at least a lot of people did. I think it's very reasonable to point out that many would have criticized that move. Signing a career relief pitcher who looked horrible as a starter would not have flown over well on this board.
  3. Hugh2
    But Strahm will become good starting pitcher and should be resigned. Is what no one on this board said during the off-season.
  4. Hugh2
    Ummmm Wong is really good at baseball.
  5. Hugh2
    Chang, not Wang. my bad
  6. Hugh2
    THere's zero chance of that happening, and it would be a very poor decision if they did.
  7. Hugh2
    SOrry my mind was in 2021, Iglesias had a minor league deal with the Marlins that he opted out of. Still pretty funny that he was released for a guy named Junk however.
  8. Hugh2
    This kind of sounds like a different way of saying "dumpster diving" which oddly enough is harshly critiqued around here when the shoe is on the other foot.
  9. Hugh2
    That's right. released by the ANGELS for JUNK!!!
  10. Hugh2
    Why hasn't anyone else signed Iggy yet.... I don't get it.
  11. Hugh2
    Those last three are zero chance of happening. The cavalry ain't coming, and if it does it's going to be some version of Story/Mondesi/Wang.
  12. Hugh2
    barely gets you a bench bat now a days.
  13. Hugh2
    Here's the thing.....you don't think this is how things play out between team and player? "well you are worth this" "well we think my client is worth more than that, he's entering his prime" yada yada yada. If you don't budge, if you don't have incriminating photos of said player, or he isn't the small margin of players willing to take pay cuts to stay in their hometown (where is Verdugo from?) then you're going to have to loosen up that wallet a little bit. Like I said, it all depends on what you think the player will be moving forward. I think Verdugo is just entering his prime and his next 3-5 years will absolutely be his most productive.
  14. Hugh2
    And if you take out Nimmo year last year he was a 2.5 WAR guy, he had a career year in a walk year. What kind of payday does Verdugo get if he does that? how much more is it if he does it two years in a row? I'm not saying he's a 6 wAR guy, but in his prime do I think he can have a few seasons where he puts up 4-5? absolutely. Maybe you think that's dumb because you think how he is playing is a flash in the pan right now. I think Verdugo will come back down to earth but I also think he could be something in between, healthy, and in the middle of his prime. I suppose it all comes down to whether or not you believe in the player, because at the end of the day if Verdugo has two good years here, no one is going to give a s*** what his WAR was when he was 23.
  15. Hugh2
    Even if he's just a good reliever he's still worth the money.
  16. Hugh2
    You don't need vitamins when you have a perfect diet. I'am a little effing grouchy though, I drove all the way up to Boston last night to watch the Celtics blow game one.
  17. Hugh2
    Interesting you use Nimmo, because most of his WAR is attributed to only two good seasons. He put up a 4.6 WAR his age 25 seasons and followed that up with a .09 and a 1.8. Verdguo has already bettered his age 26 and 27 season the last two years and he still has all of this year to play. If he has a few good years like Nimmo did his last two and goes to free agency with a better track record than Nimmo had of staying healthy AND factoring in two years of inflation he would get more than Nimmo. It all comes down to what Verdugo wants. If he wants to stay here he will take a deal, if he wants to go to free agency he will get overpaid, and if he performs like he is now or something in between he's easily making 100+
  18. Hugh2
    Maybe 5/90 is too high, but I'd be willing to wager that Verdugo will get more money than the figures you all are throwing around here. This happens every time.
  19. Hugh2
    Verdugo also has a much better track record of staying healthy. If Nimmo had, he'd have got paid a lot more.
  20. Hugh2
    His defense also took a huge hit last year, when he was playing with injuries all year. This year he's healthy, and he looks much better out there.
  21. Hugh2
    I've been here before, the results are ALWAYS the same. You guys underestimate what guys will get paid. There is always an anecdotal occurrence to back up a different opinion, but most guys don't sign super team-friendly deals. You can't take rational to an irrational market. If Verdugo hits FA coming off of a great season or good and great it only takes ONE gm to think this is who he is in his prime and not the WAR he was putting up his first few years in the league. One, it only takes one. If we want to get serious about keeping guys we need honest conversations. Verdugo is NOT signing for 50 million dollars.
  22. Hugh2
    And here we are again. At the very least this time lets not insult the team by "low balling" verdugo. There's always an example out there of a guy taking less money, and we have yet to see Verdugo 23/24 seasons. Also, Reynolds had more arbitration years bought out than you can go for Verdugo right now. That's always going to lower AAV.
  23. Hugh2
    Verdugo was on pace for a 6 WAR season a few years ago and then get all fancy and tried to change his physique last year. Even his down years were decent. Just coming into his prime, if he has a good season this year AND next he's getting paid a f*** ton of money. Not Betts money obviously but if a guy is in the middle of his prime a team is going to weigh his last 1-2 years more than what he did years prior. Listen, we play this game EVERY time. When we were talking about extending Bogey, EVERYONE in here was throwing numbers around like 6/130 or less. I was the only ******* who said "ya'll are crazy, he's asking for 10/300 and it's going to take something in that ballpark to stop him from getting to free agency" I didn't think he would get that much, my prediction was 7/215, in the end it was closer than what anyone else was throwing around. As a general rule, whatever you think a guy is worth, DOUBLE it, that's what he's getting in FA. If you don't like it, well you can complain about trading him or let him walk and get a draft pick.
  24. Hugh2
    I'd start at 5/90 buying out his last arby year and see if he bites on that. He might, Verdugo strikes me as the type of guy who does not start slacking once he gets paid. I think he rewards the team.
  25. Hugh2
    Omg no, I don't even know if 5/100 gets it done. What do we think Dugo would get in FA right now? he's going into his prime.
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