Nick

Not to be an ass, but how many games separate the Sox from the Jays based on these numbers?

How do we stack up vs other AL East teams? (mlb.com had projected starting rotation. Whitlock was there instead of Houck)

I agree. Why are we setting lower budget in 2023?

Earlier this week, team president Sam Kennedy said the club had talked with “a number” of players about possible deals. So Sox have had discussions with Casas and Bello. Sam Kenney added it's full throttle when it comes to extending young players (2). jk

My guess is it's not all about velocity with Schreiber. His unique angle has more to do with his success? (I had to go to different a site, 94.4 in 2022 and 93.2 in 2023, a slight decrease; it was 92.7 in 2021, 89.8 in 2020)

The Fenway Group or whatever is called I don't believe have hundreds of shareholders. I get it that the bottom line is all-important number for say Apple, but for Henry's company?

We are definitely shopping for clothes at Wal-Mart. Perhaps Pedey should speak to Mrs. Henry about that. She'd understand.

It's hard for me to believe additional $25M to sign Montgomery is going to sink the Sox. Our payroll is less than $100M for 2025. Ugh Maybe the Sale's extension was the final straw.....NO LONG TERM DEALS for pitchers over 30?

I had to laugh....Pedey didn't think Sox management did not know the current free agent list? Thanks Mr. Obvious

Slaten, who’s listed at 6-foot-4, 222 pounds, posted a 2.87 ERA, 1.07 WHIP, .206 batting average against, 86 strikeouts and 20 walks in 59 ⅔ innings (40 appearances, one start) last season at Double A and Triple A combined. He threw 62 four-seamers in his five Triple-A outings (8.1 innings), topping out at 98.3 mph and never throwing one below 94.1 mph. His average four-seam velo was 96.1 mph or faster in four of his five outings. He also mixes in a cutter, curveball and slider. Cora has taken notice of this Rule 5 guy.

“I do believe that decision-making at 97, 98 (mph) is a lot more difficult than at 90, 91,” Cora said. “And last year we had no velo. We had some nasty pitches. Good sliders, cutters and all that. But velocity wasn’t a part of our repertoire and this year it’s going to be a little bit different.” Sox ranked 25th out of 30 teams with average velocity of 93.8 mph. John Schreiber averaged 93.1 on his fastball, ranking him 267th. Maybe that's why he got traded.

Knowing we likely will have 4 players at $75 M under contract for 2025, (assuming Giolito bolts) it's baffling we are not spending any money. My conclusion is they simply don't want to.

You are probably right. I am just putting myself inside Brez's head as to why we made that trade. 1 opening a spot for two guys that either make the team or gets thrown off Sox island 2 couple with disparity in player controlled years. My guess is Sox likes possible ceiling of the two players that have to make the team or get released. The kid received is cherry on top.

Mediocre = Average to me. To me he is just an average pitcher from what I saw last year. Majority of pen guys are erratic from year to to year. Sometimes during the season. Brasier as an example. Let's hope Mata has higher ceiling than Shreiber. You and I were all over Mata before he got hurt.

Again the trade was to make openings for both Mata and the rule 5 guy. Brez obviously valued those two over Schreiber Samdlin is just a bonus.

It was all about creating space on the opening roster.

Obviously Shreiber trade was to make room for both Mata and Slaten to make the team. I like the move. It's pretty obvious what the road map is going forward. We received team controlled pitcher in exchange who is a hard thrower and has some upside. Bres is trading out mediocre pitchers for younger talent. We can survive Schreiber's departure.

I don't get the negativity on Wong. Is he a finished product? 5 years of team control. Maybe he"ll improve

Someone who is considered a genetic freak of nature should be able to stay on the field. Curious to see what O'Neill does.

Curt Flood says hello.

Good summary, Moon So our starting point is this; I think this is what the management is banking on to keep us competitive while waiting results on our pitching staff. CC Wong (waiting on Teel) 1B Casas 2B Grissom 3B Devers SS Story (waiting on Mayer) LF Duran CF Rafaela (waiting on Anthony) RF Abreu DH Yoshida Super Utility Rafaela We only have $70M committed to 3 players. I can see either Yoshida or Story being traded along with some cash at some point. SP Giolito (1 yr deal unless he has a bad year) SP Bello (let's hope he stays healthy) SP Pivetta (final year, if he has a break out year, he's gone, maybe he'll come back with a mediocre year at lower price) SP Kutter (I think the management is high on him) SP Houck (no matter what any of you say, HE thinks HE's a starter) SP Whitlock (talk is cheap but all indication is he's stronger and healthy, if he breaks down one more time, I'm jumping off his bandwagon) SP Winckowski (I don't see anyway he's a starter despite some optimism by our baseball people) I know most of you are very negative and understandably so. I guess my optimism is on our youth and the baseball people that's been brought into the organization, especially on the pitching side. Theo addition won't hurt. Maybe I'm just weird but I'm looking forward to seeing our position players. Spring Training is critical in terms of NONE of our pitchers getting hurt. It really is a WAIT AND SEE time. How John Henry reacts to this year will be telling....the final straw.

He was start to the team's momentum to a World Series win. Good enough for me. Although we were warned it may cost us later. What stands out to me is the 2019 failure. You can' t blame the ownership for that year. Our highest payroll ever. Probably what soured Henry.

Isn't that issue, signing extension? We have limited budget. Plus I believe he's a Borass client. No way he signs an extension.

Appears Orioles are leaving the Rays model. $122M still under the cap after the trade.

We have $3B to invest in PGA.